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Knights of Columbus success built on founder’s desire for charity
https://www.osv.com ^ | April 23, 1914 | Russell Shaw

Posted on 04/28/2014 9:00:00 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

In many ways, Father Michael J. McGivney was just one more of that band of hardworking Irish-American priests who spent themselves building up the Church in America in the latter years of the 19th century. But in one truly extraordinary respect, he was unique: Before he was 30, Michael McGivney had founded what was to become the largest Catholic men’s organization in the world: the Knights of Columbus.

That happened, largely unnoticed, in early February 1882 in New Haven, Conn., in the basement of St. Mary’s Church. The young curate had assembled 80 Catholic laymen — Irish-Americans like himself — who voted to launch the new group. No one, least of all Father McGivney, suspected that 132 years later the Knights of Columbus would grow to be an international body of 1.84 million Catholic men, with assets totaling more than $20 billion and an influence for good to match.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic
"We are proud of our devotion to God and country, and believe in standing up for both. The Knights remind the world that Catholics support their nations and are amongst the greatest citizens.”

Venerable Father McGivney, pray for us.

1 posted on 04/28/2014 9:00:00 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Vivat Jesus!


2 posted on 04/28/2014 9:15:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NKP_Vet

Amen.


3 posted on 04/28/2014 9:21:50 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: NKP_Vet

1914?


4 posted on 04/28/2014 9:34:01 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: NKP_Vet

**No one, least of all Father McGivney, suspected that 132 years later the Knights of Columbus would grow to be an international body of 1.84 million Catholic men**

Bump to the top for the Knights.


5 posted on 04/28/2014 9:35:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Vivat Jesus!


6 posted on 04/28/2014 10:12:19 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: NKP_Vet

In before “The Bible doesn’t mention anything about knights OR Columbus.”


7 posted on 04/28/2014 10:35:27 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: Salvation

Knights of Columbus is a truly great organization.

Only - real question here - which K of C members get to turn out in the outfits with the fore & aft hat, cape, and sword?


8 posted on 04/28/2014 1:43:29 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: NKP_Vet

May the founder one day gets the offical title of “Saint” one day.


9 posted on 04/28/2014 1:51:50 PM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: elcid1970

“which K of C members get to turn out in the outfits with the fore & aft hat, cape, and sword”

You are referring to Color Corps members of the Fourth Degree,
which I am a proud member.


10 posted on 04/28/2014 6:40:45 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

Congratulations! How does one earn that? (I’m Catholic))


11 posted on 04/28/2014 6:45:19 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

Just join the Knights and proceed to the Fourth Degree. Ask any knight at your parish about it. The Grand Knight will welcome you with open arms!


12 posted on 04/28/2014 6:58:10 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m 65. If I join now, will I live to see the Fourth Degree? Real question.


13 posted on 04/28/2014 7:12:36 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

There is no wait between degrees. I was a Fourth Degree within one year. I was 63 years old when I took the Fourth Degree Oath. You will meet some of the greatest Catholic gentleman in the world. We have Knights ranging from 18 years old to 90. One of the Knights that became a Fourth Degree the same time I did last year is a World War II veteran of the Battle of the Bulge.


14 posted on 04/28/2014 7:35:09 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

One of the best decisions I ever made was joining the Knights. One of my biggest regrets is I did not join years earlier.


15 posted on 04/28/2014 7:57:32 PM PDT by dominic flandry
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To: NKP_Vet; elcid1970

At the Mass at our diocesan Eucharistic Congress, a 4th Degree Knight stands with drawn sword beside each minister of the Eucharist. It really makes you think!


16 posted on 04/29/2014 2:09:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'd forgotten how much fun it is having a dog.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

LOL!


17 posted on 04/29/2014 8:27:31 AM PDT by ex-snook (God forgives and forgets.)
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To: Tax-chick
It really makes you think!

I'll bet!


18 posted on 05/02/2014 6:38:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet
Venerable Father McGivney, pray for us.

He's dead; Jim.

19 posted on 05/02/2014 6:38:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Biggirl
May the founder one day gets the offical title of “Saint” one day.

I have one now.

20 posted on 05/02/2014 6:39:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I wait for mine.


21 posted on 05/02/2014 6:50:44 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Elsie

Venerable Father McGivney, pray for us. And that includes
Elsie.


22 posted on 05/02/2014 7:28:40 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

AMEN.


23 posted on 05/02/2014 7:38:16 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
I wait for mine.


 

Did catechism classes leave something out?

1 Corinthians 1:2
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

2 Corinthians 1:1 
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in all Achaia:

Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 1:1
Paul and Timothy, bondservants of Jesus Christ, To all the saints  in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

Colossians 1:2
To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ who are in Colosse: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1:15 
Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints,

Colossians 1:4 
since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love for all the saints;

Philemon 4–6
I thank my God, making mention of you always in my prayers, hearing of your love and faith which you have toward the Lord Jesus and toward all the saints, that the sharing of your faith may become effective by the acknowledgment of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

24 posted on 05/02/2014 10:56:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet
Venerable Father McGivney, pray for us.


 

1 Samuel 28:6-16

And when Saul inquired of the Lord, the Lord did not answer him, either by dreams, or by Urim, or by prophets. Then Saul said to his servants, “Seek out for me a woman who is a medium, that I may go to her and inquire of her.” And his servants said to him, “Behold, there is a medium at Endor.”

So Saul disguised himself and put on other garments, and went, he and two men with him; and they came to the woman by night. And he said, “Divine for me by a spirit, and bring up for me whomever I shall name to you.” The woman said to him, “Surely you know what Saul has done, how he has cut off the mediums and the wizards from the land. Why then are you laying a snare for my life to bring about my death?” 10 But Saul swore to her by the Lord, “As the Lord lives, no punishment shall come upon you for this thing.” 11 Then the woman said, “Whom shall I bring up for you?” He said, “Bring up Samuel for me.” 12 When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice; and the woman said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul.” 13 The king said to her, “Have no fear; what do you see?” And the woman said to Saul, “I see a god coming up out of the earth.” 14 He said to her, “What is his appearance?” And she said, “An old man is coming up; and he is wrapped in a robe.” And Saul knew that it was Samuel, and he bowed with his face to the ground, and did obeisance.

15 Then Samuel said to Saul, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” Saul answered, “I am in great distress; for the Philistines are warring against me, and God has turned away from me and answers me no more, either by prophets or by dreams; therefore I have summoned you to tell me what I shall do.” 16 And Samuel said, “Why then do you ask me, since the Lord has turned from you and become your enemy?

 
The RIGHT way: pray to the Lord.
The WRONG way: pray to a dead person.



25 posted on 05/02/2014 11:02:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The historic Christian practice of asking our departed brothers and sisters in Christ—the saints—for their intercession has come under attack in the last few hundred years. Though the practice dates to the earliest days of Christianity and is shared by Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, the other Eastern Christians, and even some Anglicans—meaning that all-told it is shared by more than three quarters of the Christians on earth—it still comes under heavy attack from many within the Protestant movement that started in the sixteenth century.

Can They Hear Us?

One charge made against it is that the saints in heaven cannot even hear our prayers, making it useless to ask for their intercession. However, this is not true. As Scripture indicates, those in heaven are aware of the prayers of those on earth. This can be seen, for example, in Revelation 5:8, where John depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of “golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.” But if the saints in heaven are offering our prayers to God, then they must be aware of our prayers. They are aware of our petitions and present them to God by interceding for us.

Some might try to argue that in this passage the prayers being offered were not addressed to the saints in heaven, but directly to God. Yet this argument would only strengthen the fact that those in heaven can hear our prayers, for then the saints would be aware of our prayers even when they are not directed to them!

In any event, it is clear from Revelation 5:8 that the saints in heaven do actively intercede for us. We are explicitly told by John that the incense they offer to God are the prayers of the saints. Prayers are not physical things and cannot be physically offered to God. Thus the saints in heaven are offering our prayers to God mentally. In other words, they are interceding.

One Mediator

Another charge commonly levelled against asking the saints for their intercession is that this violates the sole mediatorship of Christ, which Paul discusses: “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Tim. 2:5).

But asking one person to pray for you in no way violates Christ’s mediatorship, as can be seen from considering the way in which Christ is a mediator. First, Christ is a unique mediator between man and God because he is the only person who is both God and man. He is the only bridge between the two, the only God-man. But that role as mediator is not compromised in the least by the fact that others intercede for us. Furthermore, Christ is a unique mediator between God and man because he is the Mediator of the New Covenant (Heb. 9:15, 12:24), just as Moses was the mediator (Greek mesitas) of the Old Covenant (Gal. 3:19–20).

The intercession of fellow Christians—which is what the saints in heaven are—also clearly does not interfere with Christ’s unique mediatorship because in the four verses immediately preceding 1 Timothy 2:5, Paul says that Christians should interceed: “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and pleasing to God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:1–4). Clearly, then, intercessory prayers offered by Christians on behalf of others is something “good and pleasing to God,” not something infringing on Christ’s role as mediator.


26 posted on 05/02/2014 11:15:53 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Elsie

Rather the believers in the Lord Jesus.


27 posted on 05/02/2014 11:36:44 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Elsie

Just my personal preference not to be called a “little s saint”.


28 posted on 05/02/2014 11:38:14 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

Thank-you for your in-depth presentation. God Bless.


29 posted on 05/02/2014 11:39:21 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

“The intercession of fellow Christians—which is what the saints in heaven are—also clearly does not interfere with Christ’s unique mediatorship because in the four verses immediately preceding 1 Timothy 2:5, Paul says that Christians should interceed: “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. This is good, and pleasing to God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:1–4). Clearly, then, intercessory prayers offered by Christians on behalf of others is something “good and pleasing to God,” not something infringing on Christ’s role as mediator.”

Bible confirmation that the saints are alive in God and pray at His throne all the time.


30 posted on 05/02/2014 11:41:19 AM PDT by Biggirl (Ā“Go, do not be afraid, and serveĀ”-Pope Francis)
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To: Elsie

More anti-Catholic mythology.

http://www.museumofman.org/blog/medieval-imposter-iron-maiden


31 posted on 05/02/2014 11:54:36 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: NKP_Vet
The historic Christian practice of asking our departed brothers and sisters in Chris...t

What part of "They're DEAD; Jim" is hard to understand?

32 posted on 05/02/2014 12:24:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Biggirl

Whatever works for you...


33 posted on 05/02/2014 12:24:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
What part of "They're DEAD; Jim" is hard to understand?

the part where the separation of the body and soul means the destruction of the person.

34 posted on 05/02/2014 12:27:27 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Thank GOD the elephant has left the room!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition


35 posted on 05/02/2014 12:27:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
You could probably benefit from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhlAqklH0do

I doubt it would lessen the hate in your heart but as a Christian I always hold out hope.

36 posted on 05/02/2014 3:26:12 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
I doubt it would lessen the hate in your heart but as a Christian I always hold out hope.

So...

...'as a Christian', you've determined that I HATE History.

Interesting observation.

37 posted on 05/03/2014 4:05:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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