Skip to comments.What Made Texas Gov. Rick Perry Get Baptized Again?
Posted on 04/30/2014 7:15:17 PM PDT by wonkowasright
Do you remember the Christian prayer rally that filled Houstons Reliant Stadium? "The Response" made cross-denominational waves, uniting people in prayer in a massive way.
So why would its organizer, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, need to be baptized?
The Associated Press reports that Perry was baptized last month in Little Rocky Creek near the small town of Independence. It was the same little creek where Texas icon Sam Houston was baptized. But again, why?
Perry isn’t perfect.....but he would be one of the candidates I would find acceptable if he ran for POTUS.
Perry isnt perfect.....but he would be one of the candidates I would find acceptable if he ran for POTUS.
Hopefully he forgets he is running for President. Perhaps something safer and easier like a House seat is more appropriate for him.
“I got baptized for three reasons — my faith in Jesus as my Savior, my belief that it would be politically helpful, and ... uhhhh ... uhhh ... I forget the third reason.”
If Perry does run in 2016, I hope he remembers MORE THEN 3 Federal government departments he would close down.
This time, don’t forget the BLM :)
I don’t think it is appropriate to mock a Texan getting baptized.
I would say that if he didn’t ask anyone’s opinion about it; then it’s no ones business except his and God’s.
He will have to do a 180 on his stance on immigration reform before I would consider him. That’s like a tiger changing his stripes.
Since this was done in private with family I am wondering how it was even brought to anyone else’s attention.
I am not so quick to trash what is someone else’s faith efforts. That Mr. Perry felt a need for a recommitment to his faith then good for him. I don’t know his heart and neither do you. Quit being so dimorat in your evaluation
I doubt if anyone really knows why the Governor was baptized again outside of perhaps his immediate family.
I do know many people are not only baptized “again” as adults, but have also accepted Christ into their life or rededicated themselves. Many people do so the first time as a small child and because their parents or grandparents felt they should, not necessarily because the Holy Spirit moved them to do so or because they truly understood what giving one’s life to Christ was all about.
Agree. Only God knows his heart.
WOW was that a tacky statement. What kind of person mocks someone who is accepting the Lord through baptism? Seriously, what on earth were you thinking?
That doesn’t make any sense.
Because he’s going into battle. Spiritual battle.
Pastor Burleson had built a baptistry in the rock bed of Kountz Creek just north of Independence and announced that Houston was to be baptized there later that day. Upon inspection, Burleson found that some pranksters had filled it with mud and tree tops, so he decided to change the venue to Little Rocky Creek nearby. Following the baptism, Burleson is reported to have said Now Sam, your sins are all washed away. Houstons characteristic reply was God help the fishes! While the quotes may vary somewhat from account to account, the essence of the exchange is the same. Houston was profoundly changed.
Lesser known is that Houston also is reported to have said, Well, preacher, youve baptized my pocket book! and thereafter paid half of Rufus Burlesons salary.
I agree. Right now a PERRY/WALKER ticket looks good to me. I’m sorry I bought into that Perry is a RINO carpola in 2012. We need some mature adults running the country.
Nobody's business but his.
**Following the baptism, Burleson is reported to have said Now Sam, your sins are all washed away.**
Wow, sounds like Burleson agreed with the conversion of Paul, where Ananias said, “And why now tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord”. Acts 22:16
I wonder if Burleson baptized in the name of Jesus like Peter commanded.
Gov. Goodhair the only thing you can come up with?
Perry has been both the longest Texas Governor in office and one of the most popular ever. Lots of folks have wished they hadn’t underestimated Rick Perry, don’t be one of them.
Good grief .. what a smarmy comment.
In the Christian faith, it is acceptable to “re-dedicate” your life by being Baptized again.
No special deal to it. You just go to the Pastor and ask permission to re-dedicate your life. Usually, I have found that this happens when people have made a firm commitment to God to complete some task God has asked them to do.
It has nothing to do with being “churchy”. However, I’m glad to know this so I can add the Gov to my prayer list.
Per Wiki, “Perry grew up in the United Methodist Church”. United Methodist Church believes in paedobaptism. Rick probably got baptized as a baby.
He now attends Lake Hills Church, which believes in believer baptism, or credobaptism. Lake Hills Church probably does not recognize paedobaptism, etc. etc.
Also, here is Ricks testimony in Sept, 2011:
“My faith journey is not the story of someone who turned to God because I wanted to. It was because I had nowhere else to turn. I was 27. I’d been an officer in the United States Air Force commanding a fairly substantial piece of sophisticated equipment, telling men and women what to do. But I was lost spiritually and emotionally. And I didn’t know how to fix it,” Perry said.
At another point in the speech he said that “Christian values” should be given supremacy over other religions in guiding the U.S. government.”
Since this was done in private with family I am wondering how it was even brought to anyone elses attention.
I am not so quick to trash what is someone elses faith efforts. That Mr. Perry felt a need for a recommitment to his faith then good for him. I dont know his heart and neither do you. Quit being so dimorat in your evaluation
I just found this link which pretty much sums it all up:
No it isn’t. A valid Christian baptism confers an ontological character that’s permanent. An attempted second baptism has no such effect.
United Methodist Church to Grant Benefits to Employees in Same-Sex Marriages http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3150667/posts
United Methodist Church is a very liberal church in general.
No wonder why Rick would out of that church.
Also notice who is a member of United Methodist Church, from wiki: "former President George W. Bush (R-TX) is United Methodist and former Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) attends a United Methodist Church, although he is not a member. The junior U.S. Senator from Ohio, Rob Portman (R-OH), attends Hyde Park Community United Methodist Church in Cincinnati. In addition, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and former Senator Max Cleland (D-GA) are also United Methodists. Many practicing United Methodists believe this flexibility is one of the UMC's strongest qualities."
Why question why any man would want to be baptized again?
Many Christians, for personal reasons are baptized a second time and maybe more.
I was baptized when I was 11 yrs. old. At age 55, I was baptized again. You will feel renewed, that was the best feeling.
It all depends on your relationship with God, only you would know. Naysayers should remain quite!
Hmmmm ..?? Really ..?? What church says that when you are Baptized an ontological character is permanently conferred upon you ..??
Baptism (the submersion into water), is an outward symbol of an inward decision - to follow Christ. The Baptism means, you died with Christ. After you are submerged and then lifted up .. it’s a symbolic gesture of being raised with Christ to a new life.
If you don’t agree .. that’s just fine with me.
It’s called “Believer’s Baptism” and it’s the right thing to do after believing that Jesus Christ is Lord of your life. It’s appropriate because it is an opportunity to testify of God’s awesome love for you.
It’s pretty common really~ especially for someone who... Trusts Christ personally.
* Really ..?? What church says that when you are Baptized an ontological character is permanently conferred upon you ..??*
The Catholic Church. The Orthodox churches. Most mainline protestant communions. About 95% of the Christians in the world don’t agree with your idiosyncratic understanding of baptism.
You're right. Someone thought they could make political hay out of it, that's the bottom line.
Obviously, they were right and a lot of people will go on about it even though there really aren't any details and there shouldn't be since it was private.
Jesus was taken to the Temple at 12 for a ‘dedication’.
As an adult He was baptized by John.
When did Barack Obama EVER get baptized?
I wonder if it is even safe to mock a Texan for getting baptized...
Why would someone want to mock any Christian’s baptism, or God at all?
I have no understanding of that. I thought everyone was free to worship in any way- and I have never heard of a limit on baptism.
I’d say a private affair isn’t trying to look churchy or teapartish.
He had his parents with him and his sister and a couple of guests, just a few. It was
very low key, Hassell said. I never met him before, but he was personable, kind
of down to earth.
While at the church, Perry played a gospel hymn on an 1874 pump organ, which makes
sound with the help of foot-operated bellows.
Its not easy to play a pump organ. Youve got to move your feet while you play,
Hassell said. I thought he played well.
Former Perry aide and speechwriter Eric Bearse said he wasnt surprised that
Perry renewed his faith in a private, intimate ceremony.
Baptism is a very personal expression of faith, Bearse said. He has a deep and
abiding faith, and it influences his view of the world and how he lives his life,
but not every expression of faith is meant to be a public ceremony.
A private affair .... complete with speachwriters commenting, spokesmen making comments, and all the rest of a well managed pr campaign.
Lest we forget Perry the Playtpus campaigned for Albert Gore in the presidential primaries.
He’d claim to be Eleanor Roosevelt if he thought it would get him elected.
Yep all or at least most of us aren’t as pure as the driven snow and have made changes
in our lives. Hell even Reagan was a democrat at one time in his live span.
Well .. you’re entitled to your belief and I’m entitled to mine .. I guess we’ll find out who’s right when we get to Heaven.
Where was all that?
Baptists dont believe that.
Well..if you mock a Texan’s baptism...one might find one shot with a Texan’s 6 shooter water gun! :)
I know. But I’m sure you know that that belief is very recent in Christian history, and held by only a small minority of those calling themselves Christian.