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Mormons and the Nazis: Glenn Beck’s Purple Triangle Story
patheos.com ^ | May 5, 2014 | Warren Throckmorton

Posted on 05/07/2014 5:05:45 AM PDT by Elsie

Last week I wrote about Glenn Beck’s recent sermon at Liberty University. In that post, I pointed out that Beck referred to the colored cloth triangles that the Nazis made concentration camp inmates wear to identify the reason for imprisonment. The last triangle he displayed to his audience was a purple triangle...

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KEYWORDS: glennbeck; mormon; nazi
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Why is it that '..the rest of the story...' contains so much needed data?
1 posted on 05/07/2014 5:05:45 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie

The term for “Jehovah’s Witness” auf Deutsch literally means “Bible student” or “Bible researcher,” hence Beck’s confusion.


2 posted on 05/07/2014 5:19:13 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Elsie
>>Let me add that I am not saying I would have done any better than the Mormons or the Baptists. I would have wanted to protect my family and so I would have wanted to leave the country or do what I had to do to keep my family safe.<<

Not to defend Beck, but to point out the hypocrisy of criticizing the Mormons and Southern Baptists for doing EXACTLY what he would do.

3 posted on 05/07/2014 5:20:39 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Elsie

Okay, so Beck played a little fast and loose with the data in regards to purple armbands and the Nazis. Okay, so LDS was trying to save their own skins during Hitler’s rein. Nowhere in this article does it say the Mormon church was actively participating in crimes with the Nazis. There are a lot of unclean hands concerning the Nazis. Have you ever heard of the rat line? The way in which a lot of Nazi’s got out of Germany to South America. And who assisted them along the rat line? Catholic priests, that’s who...

Are the Mormons and their history perfect? No. Is Glen Beck always perfect? No. However, lets not shoot one of our own which we (conservatives) seem to be pretty good at. The liberals stand to the bitter end with their leaders even if they are dropping their pants to interns in the oval office. We want to throw our leaders overboard because they fudge a little history or belong to a group (Mormons) that we don’t particularly care for. sheeesssh


4 posted on 05/07/2014 5:23:02 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Elsie

Very interesting history. Thanks for posting.

Collectives in general have a hard time rising up against national/state collectives, under whose umbrella of power they reside.

To break away from the powers that be (TPTB) would get your collective labelled as an internal enemy or terrorist group.

History/education BUMP!


5 posted on 05/07/2014 5:31:22 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

bump to that!


6 posted on 05/07/2014 5:43:20 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
And who assisted them along the rat line? Catholic priests, that’s who...

Do you have proof of this?

7 posted on 05/07/2014 5:52:16 AM PDT by verga (When protestants post scripture I am reminded that even the devil can quote scripture.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

sheeesssh

I’ll second that!


8 posted on 05/07/2014 5:55:11 AM PDT by wita
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
And who assisted them along the rat line? Catholic priests, that’s who...

Mostly one Catholic priest, Alois Hudal, who was shut down and disciplined when Rome found out about his activities.

And plenty of Catholics, priests and laity, suffered greatly at the hands of the Nazis. There were hundreds of priests imprisoned at Dachau alone.

(Just keeping both sides of the story alive.)

9 posted on 05/07/2014 5:55:26 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"And who assisted them along the rat line? Catholic priests, that’s who..."

And the United States.

11 posted on 05/07/2014 5:58:14 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Elsie
UPDATE: In response to reader comments, let me add that Baptists (Liberty University is a Baptist school) were about the same as the Mormons. Baptists lauded Hitler in the 1930s because Hitler didn’t drink or smoke and because the Nazis campaigned for family values. Beck’s grandstanding about resistance to fascism is pathetic when one considers the historical record of his religion and the religion of his audience.

For "the rest of the story".

12 posted on 05/07/2014 6:03:58 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: PGalt
It is hard to criticize those who follow the laws of their countries instead of going to a concentration camp to be tortured and starved.

Mormons are told to honor their governments and obey their laws. I notice that there are many, many so called conservatives who participate in Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, etc. Is that any different than what the Mormons, Baptists, Catholics and others did during the war. At the same time that these German people were trying to survive in their country there were plenty of Catholics, Baptists and even Mormons joining the US Armed Services to Defeat the German Armies.

This article is a very poor attempt to impugn Glen Beck and the Mormons he belongs to. I personally am very impressed with Glenn Beck. He risks his substantial fortune on a new network to promote conservatism. He works hard to do what he thinks is good for the USA, I applaud him.

13 posted on 05/07/2014 6:07:16 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Campion

Correct you are! Looks like Beck uses Dan Rather’s crack research team.


14 posted on 05/07/2014 6:23:49 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

You would think he would have a history scholar double check his work.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 6:24:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: verga

See my profile for links.


16 posted on 05/07/2014 6:25:49 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: FourtySeven

Hitler was also a vegetarian who loved to ridicule those who were not.

The only association I’ve heard about the words Nazi & Mormon concerns personal zealousness.

“Now, I’m not one of those Nazi Mormons!”


17 posted on 05/07/2014 6:28:17 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Okay, so Beck played a little fast and loose with the data in regards to purple armbands and the Nazis. Okay, so LDS was trying to save their own skins during Hitler’s rein. Nowhere in this article does it say the Mormon church was actively participating in crimes with the Nazis. There are a lot of unclean hands concerning the Nazis. Have you ever heard of the rat line? The way in which a lot of Nazi’s got out of Germany to South America. And who assisted them along the rat line? Catholic priests, that’s who...

PFL

18 posted on 05/07/2014 6:42:24 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Elsie

19 posted on 05/07/2014 6:49:37 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
See my profile for links

I am sorry I was not more clear. I am looking for real proof from legitimate sources, not conspiracy theory and innuendo.

20 posted on 05/07/2014 6:51:28 AM PDT by verga (When protestants post scripture I am reminded that even the devil can quote scripture.)
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To: verga

I’ll take you back to a Biblical source.

The Catholic Church is based in Rome. Esau’s (brother of Jacob) descendants from Edom left from there and traveled west until they finally settled in Chittim (aka today as Rome). From there they created the ancient Roman Empire, the Catholic Church and collectivist empires like the former Soviet Union and allies. The Nazis are from Amalek who was one of five grand children of Esau. It is only fitting that grandpa take care of his grand children when they get into trouble!


21 posted on 05/07/2014 7:06:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: verga
"Do you have proof of this?"

This is widely known. A simple search of the internet would reveal this to you. I'm not unearthing anything new here talking about the rat line....

http://vaticanassassinsarchive.com/nazi_escapees.htm

http://www.positief-atheisme.nl/atheisten/jonathan_petropoulos/the-vatican-ratline.html
22 posted on 05/07/2014 7:09:22 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Campion
"Mostly one Catholic priest, Alois Hudal, who was shut down and disciplined when Rome found out about his activities."

He was the ringleader you are correct. But he had a lot of help with other bishops and priests along the way. There are also things I have read where he along with other bishops convinced the Pope that this was the right thing to do to fight communism and the Pope sort of looked the other way and allowed these activities to go on.

I just want to say that I am not some Catholic basher. I'm just putting out the information that has been unearthed in the past 70 years. During WWII and the cold war, things were not always as cut and dried as we like to look back on them 70 years later. Hindsight is the best sight of all. The point I was trying to make really goes back to this article ripping on the Mormons in Germany because they weren't actively fighting against Hitler. Well, the same could be said about a lot of groups, that's no reason to rip on Beck IMO.
23 posted on 05/07/2014 7:14:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: verga
Do you have proof of this?

A good article is here. Many different people (including Catholic officials) were involved, for many different reasons. Some were pro-Nazi. Some were just German nationalists. Others were anti-communist, and so saw the ex-Nazis as allies of a sort.

Ratlines

24 posted on 05/07/2014 7:27:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Elsie

The Gestapo outlawed the following churches in 1939:
1. Jehovah’s Witnesses
2. Anabaptists
3. Seventh Day Adventists
4. Gnosis (Gnostics)
5. Pentacostals
6. Open Brethren
7. Bahia

The longer list includes many unknown churches.
Source: THE NAZI PERSECUTION OF THE CHURCHES, by J.S. Conway


25 posted on 05/07/2014 7:48:29 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: JAKraig

Well-stated, JAKraig. Thanks. HOORAY Glenn Beck! Glenn Beck is OUTSTANDING! Thanks to all who work with him.


26 posted on 05/07/2014 7:51:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Leaning Right; Jack Hydrazine; Campion

Campion’s post #9 rebuts this.


27 posted on 05/07/2014 8:58:41 AM PDT by verga (When protestants post scripture I am reminded that even the devil can quote scripture.)
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To: Campion

Just remember that Glenn Beck is a Mormon come lately. When he drug himself out of his alchohol and cocaine fog and got married to the 2nd wife she insisted they join a church. So they went to the religious dog pound and picked out a religion. Kind of like you pick out a new puppy. So why would he have a good working knowledge of Mormonism?


28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:58:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: verga
Campion’s post #9 rebuts this.

If you are referring to the ratline and the Catholic Church's association with it, you are incorrect. Read the links I sent you. Sure Bishop Hudal was the main guy, but there were plenty of Bishops and priests who helped Nazi's escape mainly to South America. As I noted in an earlier post, there are things I have read and in which one of my links to you alluded to that even the Pope was aware of what Hudal was doing and approved of it in the name of fighting communism.

Many Catholic officials, not just one man were responsible for the Italian ratline. This is not Catholic bashing, it's just historical fact. As I also noted, while it looks despicable today, the fact is a lot of it was done to fight communism. We have the ability to see this from 70 years hindsight but at the time, it wasn't so cut and dried. Heck, even Patton wanted to recruit German Generals and turn them east to fight the commies. That was the same sentiment in which I'm sure a lot of Catholic officials participated in this.
29 posted on 05/07/2014 10:29:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That isn’t anywhere close to the truth.

Beck is a passionate and dedicated Mormon, among the holiest, he complies with the church biennial investigation and is issued ID permitting him to enter and participate in the secrets of the Temples, Glenn Beck is a Temple Mormon who became a practitioner of Mormonism a half decade after he quit drinking.

Mormon Pat Gray had a big influence on him and was trying to convert him from Christianity, years before Beck got married, within months of his marriage, Pat Gray baptized Beck into Mormonism.

Today Beck gives 10% of everything he makes to Mormonism, and is expected to become a God, according to the religion.


30 posted on 05/07/2014 11:09:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Nowhere in this article does it say the Mormon church was actively participating in crimes with the Nazis.

James 4:17
Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin.

31 posted on 05/07/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
However, lets not shoot one of our own which we (conservatives) seem to be pretty good at.

Then 'one of our own' should not paint a BULLSEYE on his chest!

32 posted on 05/07/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
We want to throw our leaders overboard because they fudge a little history or belong to a group (Mormons) that we don’t particularly care for.

Care for?

CARE FOR!!!???!!!


It's a hellish heresy that wants to usurp ALL of Christianity!

33 posted on 05/07/2014 3:32:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PGalt; Old Teufel Hunden
Very interesting history. Thanks for posting.

But WAIT!

There's MORE history!!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

34 posted on 05/07/2014 3:34:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
But, as is the case with most bigots, it is a waste of time.

That's one...

35 posted on 05/07/2014 3:35:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: FourtySeven
Baptists lauded Hitler in the 1930s because...

America lauded Obama twice...

36 posted on 05/07/2014 3:36:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JAKraig
It is hard to criticize those who follow the laws of their countries instead of going to a concentration camp to be tortured and starved.

Ve vere yust followink orders!

37 posted on 05/07/2014 3:36:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JAKraig
It is hard to criticize those who follow the laws of their countries instead of going to a concentration camp to be tortured and starved.

It is hard to criticize those who stick up for their wife's religion; even though they claim it is NOT their own.

38 posted on 05/07/2014 3:38:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
You would think he would have a history scholar double check his work.

Or even just plain ol' vanilla Google®!

39 posted on 05/07/2014 3:38:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
So why would he have a good working knowledge of Mormonism?

The MORMONs posting here seem to get REALLY upset when FACTS of their chosen religion come to light.

40 posted on 05/07/2014 3:42:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ansel12

And, the CAtholics did a REALLY poor job of ‘catechizing’ him when THEY had hold of him!


41 posted on 05/07/2014 3:43:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

More research:


http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/Mormon-Endorsement-of-Hitler-and-the-Nazis%20

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2820757/posts

http://www.wheatandtares.org/6545/nazis-and-mormons/

42 posted on 05/07/2014 4:08:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ansel12

I don’t care if Beck gives 50% of his income to the Mormon church. He is the one who said he and his new wife decided to shop for a religion. I didn’t just dream it up. Beck is not a born into the Mormon faith.

If your go to guy on life and Mormonism is Glenn Beck you are misinformed. If your go to guy on the right way to think and behave is Glenn Beck you are being led down the wrong path.

Genn Beck is a demented loon with a messianic complex. Glenn Beck is Lonesome Rhodes.


43 posted on 05/07/2014 4:15:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Your account was inaccurate, and as one of the most devout and devoted, and elite followers of Mormonism, he is indeed the man who knows about his religion.

Beck wrote a book on his conversion, and will have deep connections to church authority to make sure that he is correct on his religion’s teachings and his influence on the public.

Glenn Beck has to go through a process every two years from church leaders, to maintain his high status of faith and devotion and elite position within his religion.

Rather than being a casual Mormon, as you keep trying to portray, Glenn Beck is among the chosen, average Mormons are not even allowed to worship in, or enter the Temples that he worships at.


44 posted on 05/07/2014 4:40:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12

Hey I listened to Beck tell his story in his own words. He and the 2nd try clasped hands and went out to shop for a religion. He’s a loon with a hidden agenda. I have no doubt he has wormed his way into the inner sanctum of Mormonism because he has money. He is not a born Mormon who was raised in the religion. He only came to that cult er faith in recent years. Frankly I don’t care if the guy worships earthworms. I wouldn’t pay any attention to anything he says. He’s bogus and suspect.


45 posted on 05/07/2014 4:48:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Glenn Beck has to go through a process every two years from church leaders, to maintain his high status of faith and devotion and elite position within his religion.

And THIS is it:


 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

46 posted on 05/07/2014 7:17:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Did you know that only about 15% or so of ALL Mormons are considered to be "Temple Worthy"?

Kinda messes up their Forever Family pitch that they toss about so cavalierly.

47 posted on 05/07/2014 7:19:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
"Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin."

I'm not going to respond to everyone who responded to my original remarks. It's obvious that there are a lot of people on this forum who don't like Mormons (i.e. think that the religion is an apostacy) and therefore will not like Beck. That is their right. However, I would like to respond to your criticism.

I take it since since your are leveling this charge against the Mormons, you will also level this charge against the parts of the Catholic church that ran the rat line after WWII. Or the other Christian sects in Germany that did not speak out against Hitler for fear of being thrown into camps. Yes, it's easy to say these things in the comfort of an America where we don't have people being thrown into death camps (at least yet). Not many people (or religions) have proven to live that way when they see not only their own lives forfeited, but those of their family and loved ones in death camps. Make sure you criticize all of them for this inactivity, not just the Mormon Church.
48 posted on 05/08/2014 4:19:55 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
It's obvious that there are a lot of people on this forum who don't like Mormons (i.e. think that the religion is an apostacy) and therefore will not like Beck.

KNOW!!!!

And it's MormonISM that we don't 'like'.

49 posted on 05/08/2014 5:50:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
However, I would like to respond to your criticism.

It ain't mine: it is WRITTEN in the Book.

50 posted on 05/08/2014 5:51:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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