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48 Hours In Hell
Gospel Tract and Bible Society ^ | 1888 | John W. Reynolds

Posted on 05/07/2014 10:00:03 PM PDT by OneVike

One of the most interesting cases of resuscitation that ever came to my knowledge was that of George Lennox, a notorious horse thief of Jefferson County. He was serving his second term. Sedgwick County sent him to the prison the first time for a similar offense - stealing horses.

During the winter of 1887 and 1888 he worked in the coal mines. The place where he was laboring seemed dangerous to him. He reported the fact to the officer in charge, who made an examination, and deciding that the room was safe, ordered Lennox back to his work. The convict, obeying, had not continued his work more than an hour, when the roof fell in and completely buried him. He remained in this condition fully two hours.

Missed at dinner time, a search was instituted for the missing convict, and he was found under this heap of rubbish. Life seemed extinct. He was taken to the top, and on examination by the prison physician, was pronounced dead. His remains were carried to the hospital where he was washed and dressed, preparatory for interment. His coffin was made and brought to the hospital. The chaplain had arrived to perform the last sad rites preparatory to burial. A couple of prisoners were ordered by the hospital steward to lift the corpse from the boards and carry it across the room and place it in the coffin. They obeyed, one at the head, the other at the feet and were about half way across the room when the one who was at the head accidentally stumbled over a cuspidor, lost his balance, and dropped the corpse. The head of the dead man struck the floor, and to the utter surprise and astonishment of all present, a deep groan was heard. Soon the eyes opened, and other appearances of life were manifested. The physician was immediately sent for, and by the time he arrived, some thirty minutes, the dead man had called for a cup of water, and was in the act of drinking when the physician arrived.

The coffin was at once removed and later on was used to bury another convict in. His robes were also taken from him, and the prison garb substituted. On an examination he was found to have one of his legs broken in two places, and was otherwise bruised. He remained in the hospital some six months, and again went to work.

I learned of his peculiar experience while apparently dead soon after, from a fellow miner. Prompted by curiosity, I longed for an acquaintance with Lennox to get his experience from his own lips. This opportunity was not offered for several months. At last it came. After being removed from the mines I was detailed to one of the prison offices to make out some annual reports. The subject of this man"s return to life was being discussed one day, when he happened to pass by the office door and was pointed out to me. It was not long until I had a note in his hand, and asked him to come where I was at work. He did so, and here I got well acquainted with him, and from his own lips received his wonderful story. He is a young man, probably not over thirty years of age. He had been a hardened criminal; is possessed of a very good education, and naturally very bright.

The most wonderful part of his story was that during the time he was dead. Being a shorthand reporter, I took his story from dictation.

Said he: "I had a presentiment all the morning that something terrible was going to happen. I was so uneasy on account of my feelings that I went to my mining boss Mr. Grason, and told him how I felt, and asked him if he would not come and examine my coal room, the place where I was digging coal. He came and seemed to make a thorough examination, and ordered me back to work, saying there was no danger, and that he thought I was going "cranky." I returned to my work, and had been digging away for something like an hour, when all of a sudden it grew very dark. Then it seemed as if a great iron door swung open and I passed through it. The thought then came to my mind that I was dead and in another world. I could see no one, nor hear sound of any kind. From some cause unknown to myself, I started to move away from the doorway, and had traveled some distance when I came to the banks of a broad river. It was not dark, neither was it light. There was about as much light as on a bright, star lit night. I had not remained on the banks of this river very long until I could hear the sound of oars in the water, and soon a person in a boat rowed up to where I was standing.

"I was speechless. He looked at me for a moment, and then said that he had come for me, and told me to get into the boat and row across to the other side. I obeyed. Not a word was spoken. I longed to ask him who he was, and where I was. My tongue seemed to cling to the roof of my mouth. I could not say a word. Finally we reached the opposite shore. I got out of the boat, and the boatman vanished out of sight.

"Thus left alone, I knew not what to do. Looking out before me, I saw two roads which led through a dark valley. One of these was a broad road and seemed to be well traveled. The other was a narrow path and led off in another direction. I instinctively followed the well-beaten road. I had not gone far when it seemed to grow darker. Ever and anon, however a light would flash up from the distance, and in this manner I was lighted on my journey.

"Presently I was met by a being that is utterly impossible for me to describe. I can only give you a faint idea of his dreadful appearance. He resembled a man somewhat, but was much larger than any human being I ever saw. He must have been at least ten feet high. He had great wings on his back. He was black as the coal I had been digging, and in a perfectly nude condition. He had a spear in his hand, the handle of which must have been fully fifteen feet in length. His eyes shone like balls of fire. His teeth, white as pearl, seemed fully an inch long. His nose, if you could call it a nose, was very large, broad and flat. His hair was very coarse, heavy and long. It hung down upon his massive shoulders. His voice sounded more like the growls of a lion in a menagerie than anything I can recall.

"It was during one of the flashes of light that I first saw him. I trembled like an aspen leaf at the sight. He had his spear raised as if to send it flying through me. I suddenly stopped. With that terrible voice I seem to hear yet, he bade me follow him; that he had been sent to guide me on my journey. I followed. What else could I do? After he had gone some distance a large mountain appeared to rise up before us. The part facing us seemed perpendicular, just as if a mountain had been cut in two and one part had been taken away. On this perpendicular wall I could distinctly see these words, "This is Hell." My guide approached this perpendicular wall, and with his spear handle gave three loud raps. A large massive door swung back and we passed in. I was then conducted on through what appeared to be a passage through this mountain.

"For some time we traveled in Egyptian darkness. I could hear the heavy footfalls of my guide and thus could follow him. All the way along I could hear deep groans as of someone dying. Further on, these groans increased, and I could distinctly hear the cry water, water, water. Coming now to another gateway, and, passing through, I could hear, it seemed, a million voices in the distance, and the cry was for water, water. Presently another large door opened at the knock of my guide, and I found that we had passed through the mountain, and now a broad plain lay before me.

"At this place my guide left me to direct other lost spirits to the same destination. I remained in this open plain for a time, when a being somewhat similar to the first one came to me; but instead of a spear he had a huge sword. He came to tell me of my future doom. He spoke with a voice that struck horror to my soul. "Thou art in hell," he said; "for thee all hope is fled. As thou passed through the mountain on thy way hither, thou didst hear the groans and shrieks of the lost as they called for water to cool their parched tongues. Along that passage there is a door that opens into the lake of fire. This is soon to be thy doom. Before thou art conducted to this place of torment never more to emerge - for there is no hope for those who enter there - thou shalt be permitted to remain in this open plain, where it is granted to all the lost to behold what they might have enjoyed instead of what they must suffer."

With this I was left alone. Whether the result of the terrible fright through which I had passed I know not, but now I became stupefied. A dull languor took full possession of my frame. My strength departed from me. My limbs refused to support my body longer. Overcome, I now sank down a helpless mass. Drowsiness now took control of me. Half awake, half asleep, I seemed to dream. Far above me, and in the distance, I saw the Beautiful City of which we read in the Bible. How wonderfully beautiful were its walls of jasper. Stretching out and away in the distance. I saw vast plains covered with beautiful flowers. I, too, beheld the river of life and would pass in and out through the gates of the city, singing, oh, such beautiful songs. Among the number I saw my dear old mother, who died a few ears ago of a broken heart because of my wickedness. She looked toward me and seemed to beckon me to her, But I could not move. There appeared to be a great weight upon me that held me down. now a gentle breeze wafted the fragrance if those lovely flowers toward me, and I could now more plainly than ever, hear the sweet melody of angel voices, and I said, "Oh, that I could be one of them."

"As I was drinking from this cup of bliss it was suddenly dashed from my lips. I was aroused from my slumbers. I was brought back from happy dreamland by an inmate of my dark abode, who said that it was now time to enter upon my future career. He bade me follow him. Retracing my steps I again entered the dark passageway, and followed my guide for a time, when we came to a door that opened in the side of the passage, and going along this, we finally found ourselves passing through another door, and lo! I beheld the lake of fire.

"Just before me I could see, as far as the eye could reach, that literal lake of fire and brimstone. Huge billows of fire would roll over each other, and great waves of fiery flame would dash against each other and leap high in the air like the waves of the sea during a violent storm. On the crest of the waves I could see human beings rise, but soon to be carried down again to the lowest depths of this awful lake of fire. When borne on the crest of these awful billows for a time their curses against a just God would be appalling, and their pitiful cries for water would be heart-rending. This vast region of fire echoed and reechoed with the wails of these lost spirits.

Presently I turned my eyes to the door through which I had a few moments before entered, and I read these awful words, "This is thy doom; Eternity never ends." Shortly I began to feel the earth give way under my feet, and I soon found myself sinking down into the lake of fire. An indescribable thirst for water now seized upon me. And calling for water my eyes opened in the hospital prison.

"I have never told this experience of mine before for fear the prison officials would get hold of it, think me insane and lock me in the crankhouse. I passed through all of this, and I am as well satisfied as I am that I live, that there is a heaven and there is a Hell, and a regular old-fashioned Hell, the kind the Bible tells about. But there is one thing certain, I am never going to that place any more.

"As soon as I opened my eyes in the hospital and found that I was alive and on earth once more, I immediately gave my heart to God and I am going to live and die a Christian. While the terrible sights of Hell can never be banished from my memory, neither can the beautiful things of Heaven I saw, I am going to meet my dear old mother after awhile. To be permitted to sit down on the banks of that beautiful river, to wander with those angels across the plains, through the vales and over the hills carpeted with fragrant flowers, the beauty of which far surpasses anything that mortal can imagine; to listen to the songs of the saved - all this ill more than compensate me for living the life of a Christian here on earth, even if I have to forego many sensual pleasures in which I indulged before coming to the prison. I have abandoned my companions in crime, and am going to associate with good people when I am once more a free man.”

We give the account to the reader just as we received it from Lennox.

It is one of the most wonderful experiences it has ever been our lot to read. May God bless this message from Mr. Lennox to the awakening of many lost souls. Oh, how can men doubt the existence of a real, literal burning Hell? Tell me, how can they, when we have the Word and remarkable revelation such as the above from time to time? Men and women, stop! Face about! Get a real Bible experience of heart felt salvation, lest you experience the reality of not only forty-eight hours, but an Eternity in Hell.

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Hell and heaven are real places, and it's up to each of us to decide which door we will enter, or which road we go down.

We all have a free will to chose, no one will make it for us. When it's all said and done we will only have ourselves to blame if we end up in hell.

Christ died for each and everyone of us to have the chance at eternal salvation. I advise each and everyone of you to Choose wisely.

1 posted on 05/07/2014 10:00:03 PM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

God bless you for this post.


2 posted on 05/07/2014 10:19:01 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: OneVike

I wonder where the other road went.


3 posted on 05/07/2014 10:24:21 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.r)
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This is a great read I stumbled across. It was written in 1888, but its relevance has probably never been more relevant than in today's world. 48 Hours in hell as described by a man who was pronounced dead, and then came back to life as he was being carried into his coffin. What follows is what he remembers seeing while he was thought to be dead.

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4 posted on 05/07/2014 10:33:41 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: namvolunteer

The road to heaven is narrow and lonely.

The road to hell, is wide and well traveled.

He chose unwisely.


5 posted on 05/07/2014 10:34:49 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

bump


6 posted on 05/07/2014 10:41:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: OneVike

scary...fhu.com has the quiet pathway to heaven..within ourselves...


7 posted on 05/07/2014 10:45:32 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: fabian

Without Christ, hell is your destination.

No feel good speaker or quiet contemplative therapy will ever get you there.

Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Light. No one comes to the Father except through Him.


8 posted on 05/07/2014 11:02:28 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

The worst thing I ever did against another person was steal a baseball cap.


9 posted on 05/07/2014 11:05:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: fabian
Fabian, you need to understand that this guy you keep referring to people does NOT believe in Christ. This is what he said.
One of the biggest curses in Christendom is the false idea that Jesus is God.

The Foundation you push does not mention the Holy Spirit in any of its publications This guy is a cultist. Nothing more than a pied piper leading people to hell.

10 posted on 05/07/2014 11:15:34 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Have you ever had bad thoughts of others? Have you ever thought of being with women in a carnal way that you were not married to?

If you thought it, you are guilty of doing it.

Besides, I doubt very much you never did anything besides steal a baseball cap.

Have you cut someone off in traffic?

Have you gone over the speed limit while driving?

Have you ever got drunk and yelled at someone or pushed them?

have you ever gotten in a fight?

Have you flipped someone the bird?

Have you watched an R or maybe and X rated movie?

Have you looked at pornographic pictures?

Have you ever looked upon a naked woman/man with lust?

Trust me, I bet I could write a book about the sin in your life that will send you straight to hell without the blood of Jesus to wash you clean.

No, I do not need to know you or ever see you sin, I know for a fact you have, and so do you.

If you dare say you do not sin, then you are sinning by not being honest.

For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

Sin is the failure to live the perfect spotless life.

Anything that falls short of the perfection God demands from us, is sin.

Only one man has lived a sinless perfect life, Jesus Christ, and that is why He gave His life so that you, me, and every person who has ever lived can be forgiven for our imperfect sinful life.


11 posted on 05/07/2014 11:25:27 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

Thanks for this post.

Hell is a real place, and our Savior warned us about it!

Thank God He shed his blood for us as propiation for our sins so we could avoid Hell and spend eternity with Him instead.


12 posted on 05/07/2014 11:38:11 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: OneVike

Not oxygen deprivation hallucination?


13 posted on 05/08/2014 12:11:08 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: OneVike

You really went to town on that.

Feel better about yourself now?


14 posted on 05/08/2014 12:41:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: OneVike

I didn’t come close to claiming I never sin. I only stated the worst act I ever did to another person. You can believe it or not - no skin off my apple.

Your over wrought reaction makes me wonder who you killed.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 12:49:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Let’s see, worst thing I did to another person...10 bucks tops. Worst someone did to me, stole 7,000 dollars.

I both forgave and sought forgiveness.

Sorry to be so controversial, I guess.


16 posted on 05/08/2014 12:55:22 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: OneVike

What makes hell hellish is not just what it is, but why it is.


17 posted on 05/08/2014 2:21:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Our biggest problem is not even vis a vis other people. It’s vis a vis God.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 2:22:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: OneVike
"48 Hours In Hell" seems to be the product of a very fertile tract-writer's imagination. The dead give-away of the falseness is that the motive of earning one's way to heaven is woven into the finish of the tale as a reward for "living a Christian life." This approach is a sure indicator of the true path leading to a real Hell, not just 48 hours of it.

Even allowing the possibility that the protagonist was actually someone lying under a pile of close-packed coal for that amount of time without utterly expiring (most probably also a product of the "narrators" creativity), the "tale" neither mentions a Biblical Gospel nor a Redeemer to whom the victim might trust the rest of his/her life.

Neither does the story match the doctrine and timeline as to the relationship between a literal Sheol/Hades/Hell (of which there was a sign, written in the teller's own language??); a final judgment scene, dominated by a great throne and Judge; and a fiery reservoir into which death, "Hell", fallen angels, and unjustified humans are consigned forever, sometime in the future after the Final Judgment..

The plight of carefully considering the death of the Man Jesus on the Cross of Calvary, which punishment each born human actually does deserve, ought to be enough to reach out for the promise of missing out on such a perpetuity of torment as a condition of relief.

The heralding of assured delivery from death and Hell, for ever, solely on persistently, permanently, and irretrievably committing trust in the Loving God Who humanly substituted Himself for one's deserved punishment, on the basis of which a human crying out for mercy may be justly declared "Not Guilty" (on the basis of exchanging roles), ought to be enough of a holy prompting for one to accept the release from the penalty, the power, and eventually even the presence of Sin and sinfulness of any otherwise lost descendant of Adam.

Sorry, I'm not buying this story of "48 Hours In Hell" as a truthful Gospel-declaring, conviction-rendering, conscience-searing, soul-saving, sentence-pardoning, foundation-laying pathway to a permanent residence in The God's Eternal Presence and Fellowship.

Though the hint of Hades in the offing ought to cause one to attempt to discern the meaning of the Real Saviour's Merits, Methods, and Message, eh?

19 posted on 05/08/2014 2:36:27 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: OneVike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ectTfNBBM8k&list=PL0C0D22E7A4243C20
20 posted on 05/08/2014 2:38:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: OneVike

ping.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 3:30:34 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: OneVike

Just, wow!


22 posted on 05/08/2014 4:14:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: OneVike

I’ll remember that.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 4:44:43 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: OneVike

At that point, COULD he choose?
I think not.

I’m not sure what I think of the whole “died, went to hell, came back to life, got saved” scenario, though.

If anyone has biblical support for anything other than “it is appointed to man once to die and then the judgement”, let me know.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 5:19:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“against another person”

is not what you’ll be judged upon.

Nor will your salvation be dependent on the “curve” of whether you’re “better” than others.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 5:20:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

1Vike posted that out of concern/love for you.

There is no surer way to arrive in hell than to think you are “good enough” for heaven.


26 posted on 05/08/2014 5:22:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: OneVike

Ya, I saw that road choice too, however he was dead when he saw it, it’s too late at that point.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 5:59:06 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Don’t take offense Berlin. I saw that too, he’s just making the case on how we’re saved. John tells us if we say we are without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

He’s just making sure you knew about being saved, I don’t know the current state of your relationship with Jesus or anything, but Christians in general are always concerned with those around them.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 6:02:26 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And stealing something from someone makes makes you a _______.


29 posted on 05/08/2014 6:12:40 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: OneVike; metmom; Alex Murphy

I must say we don’t get a lot of Mennonite material here on FR!


30 posted on 05/08/2014 6:14:24 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: OneVike

Thank you for posting this!


31 posted on 05/08/2014 7:20:41 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: OneVike

speaking of the darkness...it has done a masterful job in convincing gullible people like you in the church that Jesus is God, rather than His son and savior. The original sin was wanting to be like God, able to be independent of Him. Now the apostate church has put that upon Jesus. How wicked!


32 posted on 05/08/2014 8:04:50 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: MrB

Didn’t post I am not a sinner.

Never met a person who claimed not to be a sinner.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 9:00:43 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Never met a person who claimed not to be a sinner.

No liberals in your life, eh? I've talked to plenty of people who think they're not sinners; that they're "good people".

34 posted on 05/08/2014 9:02:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I never met a single person in my 49 years who said to me they are not a sinner. Never a single one.


35 posted on 05/08/2014 9:06:32 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Land of the Free and the home of the Brave!)
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To: fabian

How is “I and the Father are one” an attempt to be “like God”? Jesus was with God in the beginning: “the Word was with God and the Word was God”.

A glorious mystery, no doubt, but true!


36 posted on 05/08/2014 9:13:44 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

Not everything Jesus said are literal, obviously. They are one in intent and spirit. Jesus prayed to his father and the very title of SON denotes subservient. The church is lost...and its leaders are teaching a big lie. Fact.


37 posted on 05/08/2014 9:19:42 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: OneVike

Amen!


38 posted on 05/08/2014 9:39:39 AM PDT by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: fabian
it has done a masterful job in convincing gullible people like you in the church that Jesus is God, rather than His son and savior.

I'll pray for your eyes to be open. After all even the Jews accused Christ of claiming to be God, and they should know. So why would you then say they did not know what He claimed to be?

here are some verses that back up the truth that Christ is god, one third of the Holy Trinity. I could give more evidence, but your eyes are clouded by your own arrogance, and refusal to read the scriptures as they are given. It takes a lot of twisting of the Scriptures to deny Christ is God.

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hebrews 1:1-4 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [ Exodus 3:13-14 Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, "The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, "What is His name?' what shall I say to them?" And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, "I AM has sent me to you."' ]

Matthew 1:23 - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

1 John 5:20 - And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

John 10:31-34 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?" The Jews answered Him, saying, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God."

Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Philippians 2:6-7 - Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
39 posted on 05/08/2014 11:22:27 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Gamecock

I post it only because it’s a good read, but I am not a Mennonite.

Those who know me know that. I could care less who wrote it, although I did give the authors name.

As I said, it is an excellent read, regardless of their belief, or denomination.

I give credit where it’s due.


40 posted on 05/08/2014 11:24:34 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: thecodont

Your welcome.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: thecodont; the_daug; Berlin_Freeper; HiTech RedNeck; imardmd1; Chainmail; The_Media_never_lie; ...

This isn’t directed to any one persons comment, but more of a general statement as to why I posted the story, and what I believe.

First off, thanks for those who defended my attempt to point out the obvious of stating what one needs to do to be saved and how I did not mean to accuse anyone of not being a Christian, but just wanted to point out the error of our way when we think we are real good when nothing we do is good. It’s all dung to God.

I am not pinging this to fabian, because he doesn’t even believe in the same Christ as we do, by his own admittance.

I do not believe the man in the story died, even if he thinks he did. I believe the_daug said it best, by the idea the guy was probably oxygen deprived and not dead. deep sleep maybe, and I think God used a dream to wake him up, not physically, but spiritually.

God has often times used dreams to speak to us. So no, he was not dead, and I should have added this when i posted the story. For that I apologize.

I also agree that the very fact that hell exists should tell us why we should change our lives. Hell was created for Satan and the angels who fell with him, but God will send any human there if that is their choice, He would rather not and I believe it hurts Him to do so when we reject Him for such a terrible place out of ignorance.

I posted this story, just because it was a very good read.

I cannot remember his name, but there was a very good well known preacher from the 1800’s who said that if every man spent 5 seconds in hell they would never go against God.

I agree, but then we would not be choosing him off His Word, but instead off empirical evidence we see. God wants us to chose Him on faith and without human verifiable proof other than his Word.

The man in this story, was scared straight one could say. As I said, I think it was but a dream. No more than a dream I had the other day of being in a very dangerous situation that could or never take place. I am not Joseph or Daniel so I cannot interpret dreams. If this man’s dream saved his soul than it’s a great testimony.

I am sure I wrote too much, so that someone will take something I said to task. Well, so be it.

God bless each and everyone of you and thanks for your response, and I again apologize if anything I wrote insulted anyone, I did not do so with that result in mind.


42 posted on 05/08/2014 11:55:52 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

what made me think it was a false story,,is I have trouble believing demons would speak in the king james english,,,


43 posted on 05/08/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: OneVike

Thanks 1vike...

One point - does God actually “send” people to hell?

I think not. I think hell is simply the default for those who refuse to choose to be with God forever. He won’t force anyone into his eternal presence that doesn’t choose to do so willingly.


44 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: fabian
They are one in intent and spirit.

The Mormons post that lie, too.

Jesus didn't say they were one in intent and spirit.

HE said they were one. Period.

45 posted on 05/08/2014 12:13:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: MrB

Ever read about the final judgement?


46 posted on 05/08/2014 12:36:21 PM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: MrB

We are in agreement.

He gives us a choice, but we are the ones who choose.


47 posted on 05/08/2014 1:00:31 PM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

I could give you much more conclusive scriptures that show that Jesus himself never claimed to be God. He is the son and savior, but Satan had to convince the gullible that he is more. Sad. But that is the apostasy that was foretold.


48 posted on 05/08/2014 1:39:13 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: metmom

Not everything said is direct translation, nor literal. You guys just do not get it. And I believe in the savior, you guys believe in our savior as God...yet even in the bible it says no man has seen God. Jesus is OBVIOUSLY the son and their is obviously only one God as stated throughout the bible. I am sorry to write this, but you guys are pathetic in your willful ignorance.


49 posted on 05/08/2014 1:49:52 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: OneVike

Please do not pray for me because He needs real Christians to serve Him...not gullible and brainwashable people that try and convince others that our dear savior is a God! Shame on you.


50 posted on 05/08/2014 2:10:18 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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