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"Evangelicals and Catholics Together" Marks 20 Years
Religion News Service via US Catholic ^ | 5/8/14 | Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Posted on 05/08/2014 6:19:10 AM PDT by marshmallow

(RNS) When evangelicals and Catholics set aside centuries of mutual suspicion 20 years ago, the idea was fairly simple: Even if we can’t always work together, at least let’s not work against each other. Now, two decades after the launch of the group Evangelicals and Catholics Together, relations between the two groups appear stronger than ever, forged by shared battles over abortion, same-sex marriage, religious freedom and immigration.

A new pope is finding crossover appeal among evangelicals who share Pope Francis’ emphasis on evangelism and his distaste for the fancier trappings and authoritarianism of the papacy.

“The first affirmation of Evangelicals and Catholics Together is that Jesus Christ is Lord, and there’s the source of our hope,” Catholic theologian Matthew Levering of Mundelein Seminary outside Chicago told the recent Q conference of evangelical movers and shakers in Nashville, Tenn.

“This was an anchor for when they began to discover that we share the same gospel.”

The movement was spearheaded by former Nixon aide Charles Colson and the Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, founder of the ecumenical magazine First Things. Together, the two men — who have since died — held out the promise that there was more that united the two groups than divided them.

Evangelicals and Catholics teamed up in fights against abortion and gay marriage. While the U.S. Catholic bishops led the public opposition to a contraception mandate included in President Obama’s health care law, the evangelical owners of the Hobby Lobby chain took the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Earlier this year, Catholic bishops and evangelical leaders combined efforts to pressure the House to pass immigration reform measures this year. ECT officials are hoping to finalize a new statement on marriage by June, said First Things editor R.R. Reno.

(Excerpt) Read more at uscatholic.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Theology
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1 posted on 05/08/2014 6:19:10 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

No on abortion, yes on immigration reform. They’re batting .500 so far.

CC


2 posted on 05/08/2014 6:22:35 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: marshmallow

Why aren’t Catholics considered “evangelicals”? How do they spread The Gospel if they don’t evangelize?


3 posted on 05/08/2014 6:24:10 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
Why aren’t Catholics considered “evangelicals”? How do they spread The Gospel if they don’t evangelize?

That all depends on how you (and they) define "The Gospel".

4 posted on 05/08/2014 6:31:00 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Texas Eagle

I listen to Evangelical preachers, and to my Catholic priests on Sunday, and I find almost no difference in the substance of what is being preached.


5 posted on 05/08/2014 6:33:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Texas Eagle
Evangelical does not mean evangelism. It means people of the book.

Originally it was used by Reformers to self identify themselves. Today it's usage is so mushy that it really has little practical meaning.

6 posted on 05/08/2014 6:39:21 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Gamecock; Texas Eagle
Evangelical does not mean evangelism. It means people of the book.

And the Catholic church does not consider itself a "people of the book":

Yesterday saw...a forceful plea from a key papal advisor [Bishop Salvatore Fisichella, the rector of the Lateran University and President of the Pontifical Academy for Life] to reject the idea of Christianity as a “Religion of the Book”....

.......the big debate over Dei Verbum at the time of the council pitted what was then known as the “two-source theory,” which held that Scripture and tradition are essentially two separate streams of revelation, against the “one-source theory,” which posited that Scripture is the lone source of revelation and tradition is an elaboration of it. In effect, Dei Verbum held that Scripture and tradition are interdependent and integrally related to one another.
-- from the thread Synod: Christianity not a 'Religion of the Book'

"As we begin the work of this synodal assembly, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, let us turn our gaze to Christ, the light of the world and our only teacher," Cardinal Levada encouraged.

The prelate's point was further developed when Cardinal Marc Ouellet, archbishop of Quebec, took the floor to affirm that the Word is much more than the Bible. He clarified that Christianity is not a religion of the Book.

"The Word of God means before all else God himself who speaks, who expresses in himself the divine Word that belongs to his intimate mystery," he said.

This Word, he added during his Latin-language discourse, which he delivered seated beside the Pope, speaks in a particular and also dramatic way in the history of man, especially in the election of a people, in the Mosaic law and the prophets.
-- from the thread Cardinal Says Scripture Inseparably United to Tradition


7 posted on 05/08/2014 6:50:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Christians are more than “people of the book” — those are Moslems. Christian belief is in the Word of God made flesh — Christ. We worship him, and burning a Bible does not entice the same reaction as burning a Koran or a Guru Granth Saheb


8 posted on 05/08/2014 8:03:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos; Gamecock
Christians are more than “people of the book” — those are Moslems.

So you equate non-Catholics with Moslems?

9 posted on 05/08/2014 8:07:14 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock
Actually evangelio is the Greek word for Gospel.

Evangelists were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/evangelio

Etymology[edit]

From Ancient Greek εὐαγγέλιον (euangelion)

Pronunciation[edit]

Noun[edit]

evangelio (plural evangelioj, accusative singular evangelion, accusative plural evangeliojn)

  1. gospel

Derived terms[edit]


Latin[edit]

Noun[edit]

ēvangeliō

  1. dative singular of ēvangelium
  2. ablative singular of ēvangelium

10 posted on 05/08/2014 8:43:39 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

But we are talking about the current context related to this article.


11 posted on 05/08/2014 8:48:37 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Texas Eagle
Why aren’t Catholics considered “evangelicals”?

They reject sola scriptura, which is one of the major tenants of evangelicalism.

12 posted on 05/08/2014 9:38:05 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Texas Eagle

It’s just terms we use to classify people.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 10:10:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock

No, you Alex Murphy are equating non-C with Moslems


14 posted on 05/08/2014 10:12:31 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: marshmallow

**Mundelein Seminary outside Chicago **

There was a thread about Scott Hahn going to teach there. Must be a good place.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 10:12:41 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock
No, you Alex Murphy are equating non-C with Moslems

My statement was clear to even the meanest intellect, so my apologies, but let me make it clearer

Christian belief is in the Word of God made flesh — Christ.

We are people of the Word of God, Jesus Christ

16 posted on 05/08/2014 10:13:40 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: dartuser
Didn't Robert Schuller reject it?

or C.Peter Wagner

17 posted on 05/08/2014 10:17:04 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Celtic Conservative
Catholic doctrine clearly states that nations have a right to secure their borders.

"Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens." Catholic Catechism, 2241.

The American bishops have taken it upon themselves to contradict doctrine and act as though America has a moral responsibilty to tear down our border fences.

18 posted on 05/08/2014 10:24:50 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Cronos
Me upstream: Today its (Evangelical) usage is so mushy that it really has little practical meaning.

Elsewhere on the web someone described modern Evangelicalism as everything from Benny Hinn to R.C. Sproul. Clearly those two are not in the same category. With such a broad use of the word it is best just not to use it. I don't because these days is lack precision

19 posted on 05/08/2014 10:27:40 AM PDT by Gamecock (The covenant is a stunning blend of law and love. (TK))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That may be the case, it’s true Catholism from Rome that is different.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 11:02:42 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Cronos
Didn't Robert Schuller reject it?

Probably ...

or C.Peter Wagner

He's a horse of a different color ... he would actually hold a Catholic view that there other things (namely, prophecies and knowledge) on par with the authority of the scriptures ...

... not to mention the false gospel of "unbelievers can't believe without displays of God's power."

That was just one of the characteristics of an evangelical ... there is the 'conversion experience' tenant also.

21 posted on 05/08/2014 11:10:38 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Evangelicals have no sacraments and don’t believe in the Real Presence. The vast majority mock Catholics for believing in the Real Presence. And this hand-holding during a Catholic Mass is 100% protestant nonsense that they started in the feel-good 60s. The bishops need to put out firm guidance on how to behave during Mass and sadly most do not. Ignorant Catholics love to play follow-the leader and that’s why the hand-holding, guitar-playing and Masses that have been turned into a social gathering. All from various protestant/evangelical services. The Catholic Mass is the most sacred act of worship a person can participate in upon earth. To pay reverence to God and to receive him in Holy Communion. You should be able to hear a pin drop in a Catholic Mass before services start. End of story.


22 posted on 05/08/2014 11:31:27 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Alex Murphy
Probably the best info I have heard on the subject of ECT.

Many are not aware of Colsen's regret and seeking guidance from D. James Kennedy. This discussion by D. James Kennedy, John Ankerburg, John McArthur, and R.C. Sproul is valuable, especially when R.C. gets to the discussion of "Imputation" vs. "Infusion" with regards to the righteousness of Christ and its part in Justification.

Irreconcilable Differences: Catholics, Evangelicals, and the New Quest for Unity, Parts 1-3

23 posted on 05/11/2014 7:17:26 PM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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To: uptoolate
Probably the best info I have heard on the subject of ECT. Many are not aware of Colsen's regret and seeking guidance from D. James Kennedy.

Thanks for the link. Inasmuch as I admired Colson, I always saw him as confused regarding theology. I am not surprised that he would seek guidance from a Reformed theologian.

24 posted on 05/11/2014 8:21:18 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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