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Millions Of Latinos Have Abandoned Catholic Church Since 2010, Pew Says
Fox News Latino ^ | May 7, 2014

Posted on 05/08/2014 5:10:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

More than 4 million Latinos in the United States have left the Catholic Church since 2010, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that spotlighted the church’s ongoing exodus of Latinos, a group seen as pivotal to the future of Catholicism.

In 2010, two-thirds of Hispanics (67 percent) in the U.S. were Catholic. Today, that number has dwindled to 55 percent of the nation's 35 million Latino adults. While close to 20 million Latinos still identify as Catholic, the church has lost 12 percent, or 4 million Latinos in the U.S. over the past four years alone, according to the Pew study released Wednesday.

At the same time, the share of Hispanic evangelicals rose from 12 percent to 16 percent, while Latinos with no religious affiliation increased from 10 percent to 18 percent.

The new survey confirms a concerning worldwide trend for the Catholic Church, which has been losing followers for years, and is the latest indication the church is particularly losing followers among its strongest base, Latinos in the U.S. and in Latin America....

(Excerpt) Read more at latino.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholics; evangelicals; hispanics; latinos

1 posted on 05/08/2014 5:10:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As long as they start attending a Protestant church, then they become better voters, but if they just quit having any religion, they keep voting like their Catholic counterparts.


2 posted on 05/08/2014 5:13:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suprise suprise.


3 posted on 05/08/2014 5:14:05 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: ansel12

Protestant Hispanics, even Evangelical Hispanics, vote strongly Democrat.


4 posted on 05/08/2014 5:19:20 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Catholic church has not been " losing many followers world wide". Only in the Western nations where we are losing touch with God. Overall, the Catholic church has made gains.
5 posted on 05/08/2014 5:21:59 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe the Catholic Bishops in the U.S. will reverse their position on illegal immigration now?


6 posted on 05/08/2014 5:22:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Actually Protestant Hispanics voted 56% republican in 2004, and 48% republican in 2008.

I’m not aware of numbers for the Evangelical Hispanic vote.


7 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
"Pew found about half of U.S. Latinos who left Catholicism did so before they arrived in this country."

Another nail in the coffin of your claims re: the influx of overwhelmingly "Catholic Mexicans."

8 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:37 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With the news out of Mexico it sounds like they’ve abandoned God.


9 posted on 05/08/2014 5:25:47 PM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
its a long standing trend that as people become more educated they turn away from the Catholic church.

Once people realize they can read the bible for themselves and don't need a priest or a pope to tell them Gods words, they naturally turn toward the protestant faiths.

10 posted on 05/08/2014 5:27:53 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Millions Of Latinos Have Abandoned Catholic Church Since 2010, Pew Says

That's a lot of Hispanics to have sat in the one bench ....

11 posted on 05/08/2014 5:29:30 PM PDT by mikrofon (Catholic BUMP)
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To: ansel12
The Evangelical Hispanic vote went 50-39 in favor of Obama in 2012. Hispanic Protestants in general went 55-33 for Obama in 2012.

The future of Conservatism is not going to be found amongst Hispanics of any stripe. No amount of pandering by the likes of Boehner and Rand Paul will change how the majority of Hispanics vote.

12 posted on 05/08/2014 5:30:50 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, it wasn’t all that long ago they were worshipping Quetzalcoatl.


13 posted on 05/08/2014 5:35:11 PM PDT by moovova
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To: ansel12

Pew says? Well, Confucius says, he who passes gas in Catholic church, must sit in pew.


14 posted on 05/08/2014 5:35:49 PM PDT by KingLudd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m going to venture why this is true is because of the “liberation theology” in socialist Latin America, and prevalent in the Catholic Church. It’s an increasing influence here, also.


15 posted on 05/08/2014 5:42:16 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Protestant Hispanics voted 44% republican in 2000, 56% in 2004, and 48% in the perfect storm of 2008.

I would say that they are in play.

I’m not aware of their vote being tallied for 2012, are you sure that you aren’t just quoting polling during the campaign?


16 posted on 05/08/2014 5:45:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Huh? Are you dragging some other thread into this one?


17 posted on 05/08/2014 5:50:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Raise your hand if you’re shocked. No? Me either. “Natural conservatives”. LOL.


18 posted on 05/08/2014 5:55:26 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the Pew would know, because if they were still in church, they would be sitting in one


19 posted on 05/08/2014 5:55:31 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s the Catholic Church, or abortions, pop culture and the liberation politics of hate. Besides, the further left they go, the more government becomes their god.


20 posted on 05/08/2014 5:56:06 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know multiple Mexican families that have gone from the Catholic Church to Protestant churches, and they are all conservatives. They vote conservative.


21 posted on 05/08/2014 5:58:25 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: ansel12
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/18/latinos-religion-and-campaign-2012/

Its possible that Protestant Hispanics will move further right, but I don't think its likely that they'll ever become a reliable conservative voting block, especially considering that the trend among Hispanics in general is a steady shift left.

22 posted on 05/08/2014 6:32:43 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Celtic Cross

So that wasn’t the actual 2012 vote, I didn’t think so.

Hispanics who become Protestant vote closer to traditional Protestant voting, and are about a 50/50 vote, and on average, have beat the overall Catholic vote for the elections that we have their numbers, that isn’t a ringing endorsement of help on the way, but it does show that America can Americanize Hispanics and possibly win them over as a republican voting block, or at least partly neutralize the Catholic gains for the left.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 6:39:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: MacMattico

“The Catholic church has not been “ losing many followers world wide”. Only in the Western nations where we are losing touch with God. Overall, the Catholic church has made gains. “

This doesn’t sound like much of a distinction.

At the end of the day, the fact remains that the Roman church has a hole in the bottom of its bucket.

Tens of millions have left. Millions in Brazil. As this article confirms, great numbers of hispanics. Some to other churches (good) and others to nothing (bad).

Of those who remain and are counted as members, a great many rarely or never attend.

I wish better for every church, including Rome’s denomination. Not just in numbers, obviously, but in changed lives and salvation.


24 posted on 05/08/2014 7:04:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

> its a long standing trend that as people become more educated they turn away from the Catholic church.<

Well I did the opposite so I guess I’m not very trendy lol


25 posted on 05/08/2014 7:35:16 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“More than 4 million Latinos in the United States have left the Catholic Church since 2010, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that spotlighted the church’s ongoing exodus of Latinos, a group seen as pivotal to the future of Catholicism”

More reliable protestant “christians” for the democratic party.


26 posted on 05/08/2014 8:03:34 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“its a long standing trend that as people become more educated they turn away from the Catholic church”

Most illegals can’t read or speak English. They know free stuff and open borders and the party that is for open borders has a protestant/muslim president. Take your pick what he is. Catholic he’s not.


27 posted on 05/08/2014 8:07:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: petitfour

Other than a couple of Mexicans I knew in the military, every Mexican I’ve ever met in my life was a democrat.


28 posted on 05/08/2014 8:09:31 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“At the end of the day, the fact remains that the Roman church has a hole in the bottom of its bucket”

3/4th of the Christians in the world are either Catholic or Orthodox.

Try again.


29 posted on 05/08/2014 8:11:49 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t doubt you. The vast majority we know are Catholic democrats. I don’t know how we happened to meet up with the conservative ones, but we were pleasantly surprised. The best thing about them is that they are vocal about their faith, and they work hard and try to lead by example.


30 posted on 05/08/2014 8:13:28 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: ansel12

Romney got 60% of the white Catholic vote. Illiterate black protestants and illiterate hispanic catholics voted for him. The reason? Free stuff trumps religion every time.


31 posted on 05/08/2014 8:15:38 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: petitfour

Hispanics that identify as Catholic allowed Obama to claim a bare majority of the Catholic vote in America. White Catholics voted for the republican. The only democrat Catholics I know are a few Mexicans that think Obama is pro-life (no kidding) and white Cafeteria Catholics that believe in abortion and homosexual “marriage”. They have renigged on the right to even call themselves, but are too damn stupid to understand that fact.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 8:20:00 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet

As nice as it is that the remaining white Catholics have started becoming more republican, the Catholic denomination is not a race, regardless of what you may think of the non-white members of your church.

The Catholic vote is still what it used to be.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 8:32:11 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: NKP_Vet; petitfour
Other than a couple of Mexicans I knew in the military, every Mexican I’ve ever met in my life was a democrat.

That isn't petitfour's experience, and her experience is closer the reality reflected in the Protestant Hispanic vote.

Also, very few Mexicans vote in American elections, since only citizens can vote.

34 posted on 05/08/2014 8:35:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: NKP_Vet
More reliable protestant “christians” for the democratic party.

What are you talking about, Catholic Hispanics that join a Protestant denomination instead, become much better voters, more conservative, more anti-democrat.

If you care about conservative politics, how can you make such a strange mistake about the voters we need?

35 posted on 05/08/2014 8:41:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: NKP_Vet; TexasFreeper2009
Catholic he’s not.

No, but Catholics voted for him twice, and Protestants voted against him, twice.

36 posted on 05/08/2014 8:43:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: NKP_Vet

NK,

Read what I wrote again...


37 posted on 05/08/2014 9:17:18 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Catholic Church really needs to find leaders in the Spanish community who can invite others. At our Spanish Mass the Church was packed with close to 800, Another 100 in the vestibule and they were out the door. Standing room only.

So it depends on the community. Other churches in my vicariate have three Spanish Masses at one and another has one Mass like we do.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 10:09:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DeWalt

**With the news out of Mexico it sounds like they’ve abandoned God.**

Definitely in some cases.

But the persecution will come to the U. S. too. Maybe not in our life times, but it will come.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 10:11:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12

75% of Mexican Catholics voted for Obama...


40 posted on 05/08/2014 10:15:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Catholics have always voted democrat, with a very few exceptions, and very few “Mexicans” vote in American elections, since Mexicans are citizens of Mexico.

I sure am learning a lot about the racism within the Catholic denomination, from these threads.


41 posted on 05/08/2014 11:44:49 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

42 posted on 05/09/2014 2:49:59 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are becoming evangelical Protestants.


43 posted on 05/09/2014 3:19:11 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More than 4 million Latinos in the United States have left the Catholic Church since 2010, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that spotlighted the church’s ongoing exodus of Latinos, a group seen as pivotal to the future of Catholicism. In 2010, two-thirds of Hispanics (67 percent) in the U.S. were Catholic. Today, that number has dwindled to 55 percent of the nation's 35 million Latino adults. While close to 20 million Latinos still identify as Catholic, the church has lost 12 percent, or 4 million Latinos in the U.S. over the past four years alone, according to the Pew study released Wednesday.

At the same time, the share of Hispanic evangelicals rose from 12 percent to 16 percent, while Latinos with no religious affiliation increased from 10 percent to 18 percent. The new survey confirms a concerning worldwide trend for the Catholic Church, which has been losing followers for years....

.... Catholics still account for just under a quarter of the population, as they have for many years. That's because the surge in Hispanic immigration has offset the steady decline of white Catholics. Roughly 2 in 3 Latino immigrants are Catholic, according to Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Forum. He also notes that Hispanic fertility rates are higher than those of white Americans, ensuring more Latino Catholic growth in the United States.
.... from the thread Does the American Catholic Church Have a Numbers Problem?
Catholics are leaving the faith at four times the rate that newcomers are joining. "Religious change is not simply a function of retention; it's a function of recruitment. It's both sides of the ledger," explains the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life's Greg Smith. "In no other religious groups we looked at did we see this high a ratio people leaving versus joining."
.... from the thread Does the American Catholic Church Have a Numbers Problem?
No other religion in the United States has lost more members to other faiths, or to no faith at all, than Catholicism, according to the new survey released by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. The survey, conducted in 2007, found that 31 percent of Americans were raised Catholic, but less than 25 per cent of them still identify as Catholic. Roughly 10 percent of all Americans have strayed from Catholic roots, the study reported.....
....“It’s our mission to evangelize and we are failing that,” said [The Rev. Allan Figueroa Deck, S.J., executive director of cultural diversity for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops], explaining that the term ‘evangelize’ includes the “conversion of the human heart and the promotion of social justice.”
.... from the thread Study: Catholics losing the faith
One out of every 10 evangelicals is a former Catholic....with Hispanic Catholics leaving at higher rates; 20 percent of them end up in evangelical or Pentecostal churches.
.... from the thread Catholic tradition fading in US (Evangelical Protestants now outnumber Catholics)

44 posted on 05/09/2014 5:56:04 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ansel12

“Also, very few Mexicans vote in American elections, since only citizens can vote”

Are you that naive? How in the world do you think the Kenyan was reelected? Why do you think there is an all-out front assault to tear the borders down so as many illegals can get into the country that want to come in? For one reason and one reason only. They vote for the democrats. Why do you think democrats are so adamant about not making anyone show an ID before they vote? Lord, I can’t believe you actually think that illegals don’t vote.


45 posted on 05/09/2014 6:14:25 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: ansel12

“If you care about conservative politics, how can you make such a strange mistake about the voters we need”.

The republican party does not need freeloaders to win elections. They need conservatives to come out and vote for them. Nominating closet democrats like McCain and Romney will never win the White House for republicans. The democrat party is the party of freeloaders and welfare bums and that want the government to take care of them from cradle to grave.


46 posted on 05/09/2014 6:18:54 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet
Are you that naive? How in the world do you think the Kenyan was reelected?

I can honestly say that I did not know that 5 million Mexican citizens illegally voted in the 2012 election for Obama, and made him president.

Thanks for your valuable input.

47 posted on 05/09/2014 6:20:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

The mexican “catholics” that voted for him think he’s pro-life and for real marriage. They have no clue what this character is really about. They know free stuff. That’s all that matters to them.


48 posted on 05/09/2014 6:21:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: ansel12

If dunce Romney had picked Marco Rubio as his running mate he would have carried the “catholic vote” and would be sitting in the White House.


49 posted on 05/09/2014 6:22:55 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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