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Honoring Mary, Mother of Mercy
http://www.ncregister.com ^ | May 11, 2014 | Joseph Pronechen

Posted on 05/11/2014 8:13:59 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why do we call Mary the Mother of Mercy?

With both the Marian month of May and Mother’s Day on the horizon, it’s an appropriate time to reflect on this title.

St. Faustina Kowalska tells us she heard Mary refer to herself by this name: "I am not only the Queen of Heaven, but also the Mother of Mercy and your mother" (Diary of St. Maria Faustina Kowalska: Divine Mercy in My Soul, 330).

And Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI spoke of Mary using this title during his Angelus message shortly after celebrating Mass at Amman International Stadium during his Holy Land trip in May 2009.

"During the Mass, I spoke about the prophetic charism of women as bearers of love, teachers of mercy and artisans of peace," Benedict said. "The supreme model of womanly virtue is the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of Mercy and Queen of Peace."

A Model for Mothers

The Mother of Mercy is the ultimate motherly model to follow, according to Catholic mothers.

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Mother's Day tribute to our Holy Mother.

Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of death.

Amen.

1 posted on 05/11/2014 8:13:59 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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St. Faustina Kowalska tells us she heard Mary refer to herself by this name: "I am not only the Queen of Heaven, but also the Mother of Mercy and your mother" (Diary of St. Maria Faustina Kowalska: Divine Mercy in My Soul, 330).

I've always been leery of people that hear voices from the dead. To refer to Mary as the Queen of Heaven is not only unBiblical but blasphemous and pagan.

2 posted on 05/11/2014 8:20:28 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

Christ honors his mother. Why shouldn’t we?


3 posted on 05/11/2014 8:59:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

**Mary’s Mercy Points to Jesus

St. John Paul II knew well the help our Mother of Mercy could and would give to those who asked her for it. In his 1993 encyclical, Veritatis Splendor (The Splendor of Truth), in the section titled “Mother of Mercy,” he wrote:

“Mary is Mother of Mercy because her Son, Jesus Christ, was sent by the Father as the revelation of God’s mercy (John 3:16-18). Christ came not to condemn, but to forgive, to show mercy (Matthew 9:13). And the greatest mercy of all is found in his being in our midst and calling us to meet him and to confess, with Peter, that he is ‘the Son of the living God’ (Matthew 16:16).”

Consequently, mothers act with great mercy when they lead their children to Jesus.**

Catholic bump.


4 posted on 05/11/2014 9:03:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

You can honor her by devoting the attention to her Son, not her. That will do just fine.


5 posted on 05/11/2014 9:03:58 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NKP_Vet
Honoring Mary, Mother of Mercy
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6 posted on 05/11/2014 9:05:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BipolarBob
Those were her instructions -- BTW, her last words in the Bible.

"Do whatever he says."

7 posted on 05/11/2014 9:06:47 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BipolarBob

“On dark nights we are grateful for the moon: when we see it shining we know there must be a sun. So, in this dark night of the world, when men turned their backs on Him Who is the Light of the World, we look to Mary to guide our feet while we await the sunrise”.

Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen


8 posted on 05/11/2014 9:12:20 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: NKP_Vet
The Blessed Mary & The New Evangelization
9 posted on 05/11/2014 9:14:58 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: NKP_Vet
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

I missed the verse telling us to pray to his mother for intercession. Do you know it?

10 posted on 05/11/2014 9:29:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: NKP_Vet

Hundreds of dewdrops to greet the dawn,
Hundreds of bees in the purple clover,
Hundreds of butterflies on the lawn,
But only one mother the wide world over.


11 posted on 05/11/2014 9:40:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Christ never refers to his mother as a queen.


12 posted on 05/11/2014 10:35:16 AM PDT by what's up (su)
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To: rawcatslyentist; BipolarBob
The Ark of the Covenant is considered a prefiguration of Mary. Likewise, as the kingship of ancient Israel is the precursor to the kingship of Christ, the gebirah (who was the mother of the king) of ancient Israel is the precursor of Mary. Recall Solomon's words to his mother in 1 Kings 2:20, "Make your request, Mother, for I will not refuse you."

Also recall Mary's intercession at the wedding at Cana.

The crowned woman is Revelations, clothed with the sun, is thought to be Mary by the Church as well.

13 posted on 05/11/2014 10:47:07 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
The Ark of the Covenant is considered a prefiguration of Mary. The crowned woman is Revelations, clothed with the sun, is thought to be Mary by the Church as well.

Not by me.

14 posted on 05/11/2014 10:50:26 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Salvation
BTW, her last words in the Bible.

At her Son's first miracle. Then nothing she said in the next three years was recorded. Despite that she sure gets a lot of press. While she allegedly said that she was the Queen of heaven, you'd think the Apostles would have known so if it was true and related it in their inspired works. It is glaring by its absence.

15 posted on 05/11/2014 10:53:06 AM PDT by xone
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To: BipolarBob
Well, therein lies the difference of opinions.

But nobody can say that the Church has no biblical basis regarding Mary.

16 posted on 05/11/2014 10:55:54 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

They have no Biblical basis for calling her the Queen of Heaven. She is never referred to as that.


17 posted on 05/11/2014 11:02:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

15 promises our Lady (Mary) gave for praying the Rosary- taken from the How to Pray the Rosary instruction booklet...

Whoever shall faithfully SERVE ME (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.

I promise MY ( MARY) special protection and the greatest graces to all who shall recite the Rosary.
The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell; it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.

It will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire of eternal things. Oh, those souls would sanctify themselves by this means.

The soul which recommends itself to ME (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish.

Whoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its sacred mysteries, shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of eternal life.

Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.

Those who are faithful in reciting the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the light of God and the plenitude of His graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the merits of the saints in paradise.
I (MARY) shall deliver from purgatory, those who have been devoted to the Rosary.

The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of glory in Heaven.

You shall obtain all you ask of ME ( MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary.

All those who propagate the holy Rosary shall be aided by ME ( MARY) in their necessities.

I ( MARY) have obtained from My Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death.

All who recite the Rosary are MY ( MARY) sons, and brothers of My only Son Jesus Christ.

Devotion to MY (MARY) Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

Lots of I, me, my’s.

Miriam, a Torah observant Israeli mother of the Messiah of Israel, has been counterfeited and transformed into a greco roman latin queen of heaven..

What else has been countereited?


18 posted on 05/11/2014 11:04:35 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

If it walks like a cult, quacks like a cult . . . .


19 posted on 05/11/2014 11:11:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

It can be safely assumed IMHO that a woman with a crown of stars at her head and the moon at her feet, and clothed with the sun, is a queen.


20 posted on 05/11/2014 11:12:48 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: xone

Have you read any of the Early Church Fathers writings?


21 posted on 05/11/2014 11:33:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; ...

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


22 posted on 05/11/2014 11:35:55 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: delchiante
Miriam, a Torah observant Israeli mother of the Messiah of Israel, has been counterfeited and transformed into a greco roman latin queen of heaven.. What else has been countereited?

Is it then your premise that the gates of hell prevailed against the holy catholic apostolic Church of Jesus the Messiah which he promised would triumph, or do you have an alternative Church that meets these criteria ?

23 posted on 05/11/2014 11:36:46 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

In OT figure the True Church is at times represented by a woman. (Isa. 54:5,6 Jer. 6:2). When the Church apostatizes it was compared to a corrupt woman. (Jer 3:20 Eze 23:2-4). The same figures appear in the NT 2Cor. 11:2 Eph 5:25-32 Rev. 17:1-3) The sun may be thought of as representing the Glory of God especially as revealed in the gospel. The moon can be thought of as types and shadows of OT times that pre-dated and pointed to the more and fuller Gospel that proclaims Christ, His life and Resurrection.


24 posted on 05/11/2014 11:39:43 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: af_vet_1981

The gates of hell certainly prevailed against Peter on the day he denied his Lord three times. The alternative Church to which is referred to which will indeed triumph is not of this world or kingdom although we may be a part of it. It is founded upon Jesus Christ Himself (not the Peter to which the catholic church claims) No earthly institution can be this Church. The Church is Jesus and to be a part of it one must submit to Him and become a part of Him and He you. He, personally, guides the Church.


25 posted on 05/11/2014 11:47:01 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob
The gates of hell certainly prevailed against Peter on the day he denied his Lord three times.

Yet he recovered and stood with the resurrected Messiah who confirmed his mission by turning the three denials into three affirmations:
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

The alternative Church to which is referred to which will indeed triumph is not of this world or kingdom although we may be a part of it. It is founded upon Jesus Christ Himself (not the Peter to which the catholic church claims) No earthly institution can be this Church. The Church is Jesus and to be a part of it one must submit to Him and become a part of Him and He you. He, personally, guides the Church.

The apostles are part of the foundation, along with the prophets (there are 24 thrones in heaven: 12 + 12 (described in Revelation), with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone: Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

There most certainly was a historic holy catholic apostolic Church:

I could go on, and on.

26 posted on 05/11/2014 12:08:32 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.
27 posted on 05/11/2014 12:09:16 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
>"1 Kings 2:20, "Make your request, Mother, for I will not refuse you." "

Nice try, no cigar! Seems like Solomon is just obeying the 5th, not cause for intercession.

>"The crowned woman is Revelations, clothed with the sun, is thought to be Mary by the Church as well."

Some think the harlot riding the beast is the Roman church. Why would any Pope kiss the queeranus? Allah is NOT JEHOVAH! God is Love. Allah hates us! Rationalize all you wish.

28 posted on 05/11/2014 12:09:21 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: af_vet_1981
I could go on, and on

I am sure. The Church is real, it's just not an earthly institution like the Catholic Church is. You don't have 12 disciples going around penniless preaching and healing. Nobody bringing sight to the blind, healing to the lame or life to the dead.You point to that original Church as your own but those were Jews. You don't even keep the same day of worship that Jesus did but claim that you're still the same Church?? Read the Bible, meditate on Jesus' life and follow His example. Go in peace.

29 posted on 05/11/2014 12:18:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Nice try, no cigar! Seems like Solomon is just obeying the 5th, not cause for intercession."

I fail to see how Solomon obeying the fifth in any way disproves what I already explained regarding the role of the mother of the king of Israel and the related prefiguration.

"Some think the harlot riding the beast is the Roman church."

So? Some think the moon is made out of green cheese.

"Why would any Pope kiss the queeranus? Allah is NOT JEHOVAH! God is Love. Allah hates us! Rationalize all you wish."

I can't really say why the pope would kiss the kuran. I wouldn't advise doing it. I fail to see, however, what that has to do with the present conversation.

Islam is an Abrahamic religion. Allah is not Jehovah, but Jehovah is Allah (Allah simply means "God"). "Allah," such as it is understood by Muslims, is a very wrong, false understanding of Jehovah. So I don't think "Allah" hates us, because "Allah" such as he is supposed to be by Muslims doesn't exist.

But again, I don't see what this has to do with how Christians should understand the role of Mary.

30 posted on 05/11/2014 12:34:04 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: NKP_Vet

Mothers hold their children’s hands for a short while, but their hearts forever.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 1:14:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
big difference between honoring and the worship Mary receives from some circles.

no where do we have an account of Jesus praying to His mom or calling upon her for help.

32 posted on 05/11/2014 1:57:07 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: af_vet_1981
could you try a different shade of red...or maybe just not use red but another color?

I have retina burn.

33 posted on 05/11/2014 2:06:06 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: NKP_Vet

God could no be everywhere and therefore he made mothers.


34 posted on 05/11/2014 2:32:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

Did it ever occur to you that the Blessed Mother asked that the Wedding at Cana be the last mention of her in the Bible?

I have read such a statement and believe it since she wants us always to look to her son, Jesus Christ.


35 posted on 05/11/2014 2:34:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


36 posted on 05/11/2014 2:35:28 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Salvation
Have you read any of the Early Church Fathers writings?

I have, but more importantly, I've read the original ones, the Apostles. Nothing from the originals or their inspired writings. As for the other ECFs, Paul was right in 2 Thess 2:7 if the ECFs to any extent were advancing the idea of Mary as the Queen of heaven.

37 posted on 05/11/2014 3:19:27 PM PDT by xone
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To: Salvation
God could no be everywhere

Nice sentiment until it denies the nature of God. I don't want to mind read, that's illegal, so I ask whether by this statement you are denying the omnipresence of God?

38 posted on 05/11/2014 3:24:24 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone; Salvation
so I ask whether by this statement you are denying the omnipresence of God?

God evidently has different "levels" of presence. St. Michael the Archangel tells us he is "Always in the Direct Presence of God". Most of the rest of us certainly aren't; not even sure many other Saints are.

39 posted on 05/11/2014 3:30:17 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: Salvation
God could no be everywhere and therefore he made mothers.

I leave it in your hands, Lord.

40 posted on 05/11/2014 3:41:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: steve86
Most of the rest of us certainly aren't; not even sure many other Saints are.

God's Word says otherwise, whether one knows it or not. He is always present everywhere. All in heaven are in the 'Direct Presence of God'.

omnipresence

41 posted on 05/11/2014 3:46:19 PM PDT by xone
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To: Karl Spooner

You didn’t/don’t have a mother?


42 posted on 05/11/2014 3:47:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: xone

Does a sparrow fall without Him knowing it?


43 posted on 05/11/2014 3:47:39 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: steve86

?? The Saints in heaven are in the direct presence of God, correct?


44 posted on 05/11/2014 3:48:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Karl Spooner

Good point, but that could be omniscience.


45 posted on 05/11/2014 3:50:15 PM PDT by xone
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To: ealgeone
could you try a different shade of red...or maybe just not use red but another color? I have retina burn.

I may need a dispensation.

46 posted on 05/11/2014 3:55:17 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Salvation
Did it ever occur to you that the Blessed Mother asked that the Wedding at Cana be the last mention of her in the Bible? I have read such a statement and believe it since she wants us always to look to her son, Jesus Christ.

uh...no.

if, as you say, Mary wants us to look at Christ, then why the undue emphasis on Mary based on a false narrative from something someone said she heard around the 4th century?

the whole Mary thing is un-Biblical and is a false doctrine not found in Christianity. Maybe Catholicism, but not Christianity.

47 posted on 05/11/2014 4:01:26 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

Did I say something about false narrative?


48 posted on 05/11/2014 4:03:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
the whole Mariology thing is a false narrative outside of what's in the Bible. and even in the limited info we have in the Bible some have taken that and have read into it meanings and implications that aren't there.

such as the one you posited regarding what Mary may or may not have said to Christ.

49 posted on 05/11/2014 4:19:05 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: ealgeone

Catholicism IS Christianity.


50 posted on 05/11/2014 5:01:13 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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