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Question: Does desecrating the Eucharist "harm" God in any way?
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| 15 May 2014
| Teófilo de Jesús (@vivificat)
Posted on 05/15/2014 9:00:19 AM PDT by Teófilo
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:00:19 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
To: YellowRoseofTx; Rashputin; StayoutdaBushesWay; OldNewYork; MotherRedDog; sayuncledave; ...
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:01:40 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
(Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
To: Teófilo
The larger question is “Can man hurt G*d?”
By definition, the Omniscient and Omnipotent is in no danger from Man.
A case can be argued that Man should hope the Divine to also be Omnibenivolent - something about Man’s behavior ......
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:10:16 AM PDT
by
GladesGuru
(Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
To: Teófilo
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:10:48 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." - G.K. Chesterton)
To: Teófilo
Jesus went through a lot worse.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:15:26 AM PDT
by
ex-snook
(God forgives and forgets.)
To: Teófilo
So are you saying that the consecrated host, The Body and Blood of Christ, is not hurt or damaged by the abuse of ill-informed protestors?
Christ died for their sins too. I think it does hurt Christ, for it is one of the sins that caused his Crucifixion.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:17:42 AM PDT
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Teófilo
The short answer is "no." But it sure gets Catholics' scapulars in a wad!
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:18:58 AM PDT
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: Salvation
The fact that it could not hurt an almighty and omnipotent God does not mean that it is acceptable, nor should it be tolerated.
To: Mrs. Don-o
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:21:44 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: Teófilo
If it “doesn’t harm God” then why are Satanists so adamant they desecrate it during their rituals? Never mind all the relevant scriptural references to the REAL Presence of the Eucharist...just answer the first question.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:23:33 AM PDT
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: Alex Murphy
But it sure gets Catholics' scapulars in a wad!No comprendo. My scapular surely is dirty, smelly, and all sweaty, but not wound in a wad...
;-)
~Theo
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:23:44 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
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To: Solson
If it doesnt harm God then why are Satanists so adamant they desecrate it during their rituals? Never mind all the relevant scriptural references to the REAL Presence of the Eucharist...just answer the first question.I gave two answers to that question on the post. But here's another one: they can't harm God, but they surely want to! So they seek to do the impossible.
What they want is to move us to hate them, because if we do so, they win.
~Theo
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:26:14 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
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To: Salvation
They believe in the Real Presence! Don’t you wish everyone did.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:29:31 AM PDT
by
ex-snook
(God forgives and forgets.)
To: Teófilo
So you don't think sin hurts God? Do you think he's sitting there just saying "do whatever you want, can't touch me!"?
For the record, I hate Satan.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:30:00 AM PDT
by
Solson
(The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
To: Salvation
Quote:
So are you saying that the consecrated host, The Body and Blood of Christ, is not hurt or damaged by the abuse of ill-informed protestors? Christ died for their sins too. I think it does hurt Christ, for it is one of the sins that caused his Crucifixion.
Christ certainly died for all sins, for all sins were present to Him at the crucifixion, up to an including every sin of desecration to be committed until the end of time.
Hence, every desecration we witness in time adds nothing to the sufferings of Christ, because He has already atoned for those.
Not committing a desecration, in fact, refraining from sinning altogether, brings him "relief" for that's one less sin he didn't have to atone for.
Therefore, try not to sin but if and when you do, know that the road to forgiveness and redemption has been already paved for you.
~Theo
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:30:48 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
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To: ex-snook
In a (very real) sense, yes. It’s more accurate to say that He carried the weight of every single desecration against His Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, from Calvary until the end of time. There is no difference if the desecration was done against his historical, or sacramental Body, the sin is the same, and so is the redemptive good flowing from His suffering.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:34:08 AM PDT
by
Teófilo
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To: Teófilo
"Let me finish on a bright note: even the sin of desecration will be forgiven if forgiveness is asked. Jesus himself forgave his executioners..." Now there is an odd doctrine. Forgiveness must be asked for and then it will be given. Example Jesus forgave his executioners...because they asked? Hmmm...I missed that part in the story line. Can you help us here?
To: Teófilo
“Harms”....uh no.
Annoys, saddens, makes angry....likely so.
If it harms anyone it is the perpetrator and the folks who participate and/or watch. God has warned those who lead others astray. Eternity is a very long time.
My two cents....
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:47:30 AM PDT
by
my small voice
(A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
To: Teófilo
Question: Does desecrating the Eucharist "harm" God in any way? YHvH is saddened as millions of His Created Beings are lead astray
whenever a mere human performs an act of satanic magic
by claiming to change a stale Pesach Matzo into the
Creator of the Universe.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:48:50 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
To: Salvation
Very, very good point. I think Faustina spoke to this, if even though obliquely.
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posted on
05/15/2014 9:49:48 AM PDT
by
Rich21IE
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