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Do the Muslims Love Their Children Too?
Raymond Ibrahim, Islam Translated ^ | 05/21/2014 | Ralph H. Sidway

Posted on 05/21/2014 7:39:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In Europe and America,

There’s a growing feeling of hysteria…

But what may save us, me and you,

Is if the [Muslims] love their children too.

Adapted from ‘Russians’, by Sting, 1984.

This year marks the thirtieth anniversary of the launch of Sting’s solo career with his critically acclaimed hit album, Dream Of The Blue Turtles. Included on this radical departure from the musical stylings of Sting’s former band, The Police, was the sobering meditation, Russians. (Complete lyrics here.)

Although I disagree with some of Sting’s political sensibilities (after all, Reagan won the Cold War), his use of a simple, rhetorical question was most compelling. (Of course, the Russians love their children!)

In any case, today, thirty years after Russians was released, we seem to have entered into a new phase of a different war, a very, very old war, with ominous clouds on the horizon.

Ours is a time of fitful contradictions and spasms of policy incoherence, as the United States, the UK, and the West vacillate between outright denial of the threat of Islam, and ill-advised alliances with the very forces seeking to destroy us. Sorely lacking is a clear-headed appraisal of and strategy to meet the mortal threat posed by a globally emboldened, militant Islam, which, after fourteen hundred years, is once again 100% determined to conquer us, through immigration, birth rates, lawfare, politics, stealth, and conversion when necessary, by terrorism wherever possible, and by open warfare whenever the odds are in their favor.

No doubt you’ve seen the projections: England will be a Muslim majority country in a couple of decades. Europe too. The growth of Muslim populations in major European cities has led to sharia “no-go zones,” where police seldom venture, and from where Muslim youths routinely riot over the slightest offense. Last Spring it was Sweden which burned. In 2005, the outskirts of Paris. This year (so far) it’s Denmark.

Generational Assimilation Among Western Muslims?

We were told that multiculturalism was the way of the future in England, Europe, Canada and America. That any mild inconveniences experienced because of new (Muslim) immigrants having difficulties adjusting to Western paradigms would smooth away as their children grew to maturity, adopting wholeheartedly the Western worldview of prosperity, freedom, tolerance and congeniality.

Rather, the reverse seems to be happening, as numerous reports indicate second and third generation Muslim immigrants are committing far more crimes (218% more in Denmark) and are far more inclined to join the global jihad in Syria than their supposedly less-acclimated parents. There are whole French and German-speaking units in ISIS (The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, the most bloodthirsty jihadist faction among the Syrian “rebels”) made up primarily of second and third generation descendants of Arab immigrants and Muslim converts.

In the Netherlands, 65% of Moroccan Muslim youths have been arrested by police, and a third of that group have been arrested five or more times.

There are reports, too, of whole Muslim families joining the jihad, as in the case of a British Muslim father who took his five sons across Europe and Turkey in order to wage jihad with them in Syria.

Problems Within Muslim Culture?

Doesn’t this reveal something about Islamic culture, the message being propagated via mosques, books, videos, and, of course, through core Islamic texts, including the Quran, the Hadiths and the Sira? Devotion to the example of Muhammad’s victories in battle, the all-important Muslim self-image of Islamic superiority over all other religions, supposedly proven by its conquering of the Byzantine Christian Empire in 1453 (celebrated annually by “secular” Turkey), coupled with disdain for the lax and soft European, British and American cultures, breeds contempt for the West and a sense of rightful entitlement.

And that’s just the West.

Media Watch Groups Report on Global Muslim Views

There are shocking video reports out of the Middle East of Palestinian, Egyptian, Lebanese and Syrian TV programs and videos geared expressly towards children, which portrays Christians and Jews as sub-human, openly calling for their slaughter, and prepping Muslim children for suicide operations. A quick list of examples follows.

Syria

Pakistan

Hamas trains children and teens to be suicide martyrs, kill Jews —

After seeing how the Islamist terror group had appropriated her father’s work to encourage genocidal hatred, Diana Disney Miller – daughter of Walt Disney – voiced her disgust to the New York Daily News:

‘Indoctrinating children like this, teaching them to be evil. The world loves children and this is just going against the grain of humanity… What we’re dealing with here is pure evil’.

Egypt —

Palestinian Authority —

Lebanon —

Dagestan —

In the Muslim homeland of the Boston Marathon jihad murderers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, children are imitating their parents by filming their own jihad videos.

The Global Muslim Village: “Unborn Martyrs” Being Prepared to Wage Jihad

Hillary Clinton famously wrote, “It takes a village,” yet there seems to be a significant and growing movement within the global Muslim village, which raises its children on a steady diet of hatred of non-Muslims coupled with an eagerness to “slay and be slain” (Quran 9:111), so as to gain Allah’s favor and inherit paradise. This Islamic indoctrination into a culture of death and murder begins in utero, as seen in this video example from the 2012 Muslim Day Parade in New York City, where one woman, an official speaker for the event, exclaimed “We have the unborn martyrs in our wombs.”

FGM, Child Marriage, and Honor Killings

These are merely some representative examples of the impetus to jihad, death and murder in Islamic culture. Time and space do not allow us to cite the pervasive Muslim practices of female genital mutilation, child marriage, and honor killings, all codified in Islamic scriptures and law.

The situation of Muslim girls is perhaps the most dire of any segment of the global population, with the probable exception of Christian girls in Islamic countries such as Egypt, Syria, Pakistan and Nigeria, where incidents of rape, abductions for ransom, and forced conversions are widespread.

The Same Biology?

Sting’s repeating thought in Russians is the secular/scientific call for peace:

We share the same biology

Regardless of ideology…

Clever rhyme, which both Christian and atheist could find at least some solace in. Religious or secular, one can pretty much acknowledge the innate human impulse to life, to live life, and to wish to hand down to one’s children the opportunity to live their life, and enable the same for others. America is founded on the belief that all people are entitled to “Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

Yet it seems there is a frighteningly powerful counter-impulse permeating and afflicting the Muslim world. In Islam, death has both practical purpose and divine sanction. The life of a non-Muslim is not sacred, as elaborate religious laws make clear in prescribing penalties for murder. And there is no penalty for a parent, grandparent, sibling or close relative for the killing of a Muslim woman or child who is perceived as bringing shame upon the family (the Muslim phenomenon of honor killings). Similarly, a Muslim apostate may be killed by any member of the umma without penalty; they are discharging Allah’s judgment.

The indoctrination of each successive generation of children in Muslim cultures to hate the infidel, prepare for warfare, bloodshed, murder and suicide missions, offers little hope for the world. To an indoctrinated Muslim, the kuffar are unclean, even sub-human. We only “share the same biology” if we embrace the Islamic ideology. Biology alone is not a universal standard in Islam.

Do the Muslims love their children too?

Perhaps I’m not alone in approaching this question in a non-rhetorical manner. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair recently dared to tackle the subject quite a bit more directly (albeit without mentioning children), urging an international alliance against Islamism, and defining it as “the greatest threat facing the world today.”

But could an alliance of non-Muslim nations expect to roll back fourteen centuries of entrenched Islamic culture based on unalterable sacred scripture, which makes hatred of the infidel and the slaughter of Christians and Jews permissible, even obligatory?

As we ponder the failure of the West to assimilate and rehabilitate second and third generation Muslim immigrants, as they riot and become career criminals at home, or run off to join the jihad in Syria or wherever, breathlessly eager to bring the jihad back to America, Canada, Britain and Europe to advance the worldwide caliphate, the answer to Sting’s once rhetorical question seems neither pleasant nor hopeful.

But what may save us, me and you,

Is if the Muslims love their children too.

Whether the Muslims love their children or not may be a secondary question. Perhaps the more important question is the one we must ask of ourselves:

But what may save us, in the end,

Is if we love our children,

enough to defend.


TOPICS: Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: children; islam; muslims

1 posted on 05/21/2014 7:39:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They may love their children, but they hate Jews and Christians more.


2 posted on 05/21/2014 7:40:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

The first male-the rest not so much!


3 posted on 05/21/2014 7:42:53 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: SeekAndFind

With their vicious “honor killings” of their daughters and training their sons to blow themselves up for Allah, the obvious answer is “NO.”


4 posted on 05/21/2014 7:46:07 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

If a parent really loved their children, then they wouldn’t subjugate them to an evil satanic religion that ends in their soul being eternally separated from The One True God.

Real Love...shows them the Way to the Father. John 14:6


5 posted on 05/21/2014 7:48:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: txrefugee

“Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.” — Golda Meir - Prime Minister of Israel (1969-1974)


6 posted on 05/21/2014 7:49:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

About as much as Americans love our guns but we don’t sacrifice our guns.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 7:49:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, since a Muslim’s child is often his cousin or nephew maybe he loves him extra!


8 posted on 05/21/2014 7:50:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Muslims’ twisted logic dictates that loving one’s children means sending them off to die as shaheeds.

A shaheed (martyr) gains paradise & the 72 whatevers. So, isn’t it a loving thing to do, to guarantee that one’s children (sons anyway) should enter paradise after having murdered the hated “infidels”?


9 posted on 05/21/2014 8:03:28 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course they love their children. The youngsters are small enough to carry bombs into areas that would be inaccessible to bulkier adults jihadis. And their innocent appearance makes them less likely to be rigorously scrutinized.

What’s not to love?


10 posted on 05/21/2014 8:04:46 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, Muslims love to see their children raped, mutilated, and subjugated. As long as they are female children.


11 posted on 05/21/2014 8:05:19 AM PDT by anton
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To: SeekAndFind

Since their god rewards them for sacrificing their children, and so many will willingly do so, I think they many do not love their children like we do. These parents focus on their own reward in Islamic paradise, not on their children.

On a side issue, Muslims tend to hate dogs. They frequently brutalize them. There is something terribly wrong with cultures and religions that promote the abuse of dogs. But the point here is the same. Muslims do not think like we do. To accept it as a given that Muslim parents in general love their children like Christians & Jews do, is to fall into a trap.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 8:06:38 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Dr. Ursus

Whats that saying? “Me agains’t my brother, my brother and me again’st my father etc etc.


13 posted on 05/21/2014 8:07:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In their perverted minds, loving their children means teaching them to hate Christians and Jews, to submit to the sexual demands of their elders, to submit to genital mutilation and to blow themselves up along with Christians and Jews.


14 posted on 05/21/2014 8:14:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: MrB

Of course they love their children. If their children are killed waging Jihad, then they will go to heaven and get their 72 virgins. So....it’s all good. [/s]


15 posted on 05/21/2014 8:18:17 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: SeekAndFind

“Peace will come to the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us.”

Until then, 7.62 to aerate the little Jihadis minds.


16 posted on 05/21/2014 8:20:17 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: elcid1970

I’ve never met a happy muslim—have you?

The human conscience is a very powerful thing. Even though they do these deeds, they know, deep down inside that something is wrong. This trait transcends all races, cultures, and religions.

The tormented soul of one who does great evil against others will never rest—even if they say they are at “peace”.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 8:20:26 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: MrB

I do not consider it ‘love’ when one teaches a child to strap on explosives and blow yourself and others to smithereens. PLUS the child will immediately go to ‘heaven’ to be praised by Allah.

If you consider that love then you too are very strange.


18 posted on 05/21/2014 8:41:58 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: SeekAndFind

So do “honor killings” equal “love”?


19 posted on 05/21/2014 8:44:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind
Do the Muslims Love Their Children Too?

Yes.

Sexually.

20 posted on 05/21/2014 8:46:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They blow up so fast.


21 posted on 05/21/2014 8:49:03 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: SeekAndFind

22 posted on 05/21/2014 9:08:09 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


23 posted on 05/21/2014 10:12:09 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: SeekAndFind

They blow up so fast.


24 posted on 05/21/2014 10:13:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MrB

“We can forgive you for killing our children, but we shall never forgive you for making us kill yours.” - Golda Meir


25 posted on 05/21/2014 10:14:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

There was a Muslimah at our workplace who would give everybody her doe eyed smile as if to say, “See, we’re not all terrorists!” Smile for effect, that is.

Even everyone’s favorite All-American Muslim, Dr. Zudhi Jasser, can’t keep that Islamic arrogance & rage from showing through: “I’m a Muslim and an intellectual as well as a physician, and you are none of these, so how dare you claim to understand Islam or challenge me!!?”

There is no upside to Islam and Mecca should be nuked. Bottom line.


26 posted on 05/21/2014 10:15:25 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

“There is no upside to Islam and Mecca should be nuked. Bottom line.”

No argument from me on that point :)


27 posted on 05/21/2014 10:21:47 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: SeekAndFind

28 posted on 05/21/2014 10:38:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hillary may have brain damage, but what difference does it make?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sorely lacking is a clear-headed appraisal of and strategy to meet the mortal threat posed by a globally emboldened, militant Islam

Islam is not a mortal threat.

USSR was a mortal threat. They had the capability to kill the vast majority of Americans, without regard to whether we fought back or not.

Nazi Germany was a mortal threat. They had a real shot at conquering the world.

Islam, OTOH, is only a threat because of our idiotic policies with regard to it.

IOW, if Islam kills us, it will be more a case of suicide than murder.

And, I would contend, if Islam didn't exist, our society would find some other means to destroy itself.

Pogo: We have met the enemy, and he is us.

29 posted on 05/21/2014 12:37:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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