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Where in the New Testament are "priests" mentioned? [Ecumenical]
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Posted on 05/22/2014 8:23:50 AM PDT by Salvation

Where in the New Testament are "priests" mentioned?

 

Full Question

The New Testament mentions three categories of Church leaders: bishops, presbyters, and deacons. So how can the Catholic Church justify its office of "priest"? The New Testament writers seem to understand "bishop" and "presbyter" to be synonymous terms for the same office (Acts 20:17-38).

 

Answer

The English word "priest" is derived from the Greek word presbuteros, which is commonly rendered into Bible English as "elder" or "presbyter." The ministry of Catholic priests is that of the presbyters mentioned in the New Testament (Acts 15:6, 23). The Bible says little about the duties of presbyters, but it does reveal they functioned in a priestly capacity.

They were ordained by the laying on of hands (1 Tm 4:14, 5:22), they preached and taught the flock (1 Tm 5:17), and they administered sacraments (Jas 5:13-15). These are the essential functions of the priestly office, so wherever the various forms of presbuteros appear--except, of course, in instances which pertain to the Jewish elders (Mt 21:23, Acts 4:23)--the word may rightly be translated as "priest" instead of "elder" or "presbyter."

Episcopos arises from two words, epi (over) and skopeo (to see), and it means literally "an overseer": We translate it as "bishop." The King James Version renders the office of overseer, episkopen, as "bishopric" (Acts 1:20). The role of the episcopos is not clearly defined in the New Testament, but by the beginning of the second century it had obtained a fixed meaning. There is early evidence of this refinement in ecclesiastical nomenclature in the writings of Ignatius of Antioch (d. A.D. 107), who wrote at length of the authority of bishops as distinct from presbyters and deacons (Epistle to the Magnesians 6:1, 13:1-2; Epistle to the Trallians 2:1-3; Epistle to the Smyrnaeans 8:1-2).

The New Testament tendency to use episcopos and presbuteros interchangeably is similar to the contemporary ... use of the term "minister" to denote various offices, both ordained and unordained (senior minister, music minister, youth minister). Similarly, the term diakonos is rendered both as "deacon" and as "minister" in the Bible, yet in Protestant churches the office of deacon is clearly distinguished from and subordinate to the office of minister.

In Acts 20:17-38 the same men are called presbyteroi (v. 17) and episcopoi (v. 28). Presbuteroi is used in a technical sense to identify their office of ordained leadership. Episcopoi is used in a non-technical sense to describe the type of ministry they exercised. This is how the Revised Standard Version renders the verses: "And from Miletus he [Paul] . . . called for the elders [presbuteroi] of the church. And when they came to him, he said to them . . . 'Take heed to yourselves and all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you guardians [episcopoi], to feed the church of the Lord.'"

In other passages it's clear that although men called presbuteroi ruled over individual congregations (parishes), the apostles ordained certain men, giving them authority over multiple congregations (dioceses), each with its own presbyters. These were endowed with the power to ordain additional presbyters as needed to shepherd the flock and carry on the work of the gospel. Titus and Timothy were two of those early episcopoi and clearly were above the office of presbuteros. They had the authority to select, ordain, and govern other presbyters, as is evidenced by Paul's instructions: "This is why I left you in Crete . . . that you might appoint elders in every town as I directed you" (Ti 1:5; cf. 1 Tm 5:17-22).


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2 posted on 05/22/2014 8:24:21 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Good article. Thanks, Salvation.


3 posted on 05/22/2014 8:25:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Deacons, Priests and Bishops Ping!


4 posted on 05/22/2014 8:26:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: trisham

You’re welcome!


5 posted on 05/22/2014 8:26:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

My understanding is the office is Bishop and the priests are helpers of the Bishop.


6 posted on 05/22/2014 8:26:36 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Salvation
<>i>Deacons, Priests and Bishops

Oh, my!

7 posted on 05/22/2014 8:26:50 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Fido969

Did you mean the offices of Deacons and Priests are to help the Bishop?


8 posted on 05/22/2014 8:31:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
It would have to be intentional to miss--as does the article--1 Pet 2:9:

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Call that the "priesthood of all believers."

Why would one want colorful, ordained vestments when yours is heaven is white, suitable for the royal banquet?

HF

9 posted on 05/22/2014 8:34:19 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden
1 Peter was written around 70-90 AD -- there was only the Catholic Church founded by Christ on the Apostles at that time.

I believe you might be using Your Own Personal Interpretation of Scripture -- YOPIOS

10 posted on 05/22/2014 8:42:34 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden

The Mass isn’t about the celebrant; it’s about God. Different colors mean different things.


11 posted on 05/22/2014 8:57:51 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden
Vestments are often made by parishioners and or family. The colors of the garments correspond to the liturgical season or to a specific Mass.

Modern people tend to forget that the Catholic Church having been around since Jesus as indeed founded by Jesus used symbols and symbolic language. Sometimes it was used to keep from being persecuted. But most of the ancient world did not read or write and symbols were used such as colors so people knew what season we were in or what Mass was being said. We keep these out of tradition.

12 posted on 05/22/2014 8:59:16 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: Salvation

I don’t want to arouse an argument but when Paul gives instructions regarding the selecting of these men, one of the instructions were that they were to be married to one wife or one wife men depending on the translation. That makes perfect sense in selecting elders of the church but how does that apply the application to the current priesthood?


13 posted on 05/22/2014 9:05:10 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: dangerdoc

Priests have one wife - the Church.

I’m just saying. . .


14 posted on 05/22/2014 9:09:19 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
Priests have one wife - the Church.

Absolutely.

15 posted on 05/22/2014 9:09:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Fido969
My understanding is the office is Bishop and the priests are helpers of the Bishop.

I think your understanding is essentially correct. As the article mentions, the terms "Presbyter" and "Bishop" were, at the time most of the NT was written, not as clearly defined as the terms "Bishop" "Priest" and "Deacon" came to be.

In most NT churches, the presbyters were closer to what we would consider bishops than to what we would consider priests. Of course, the fullness of the ordained ministry resides with the bishops. The priests and deacons, as extensions of the episcopal office, are correctly (though not completely) thought of as "helpers" to the bishop.

As the article mentions, Ignatius was perhaps the earliest writer to clearly delineate the three-fold office of Bishop, Priest and Deacon, with a single (sometimes referred to as monarchical) bishop overseeing a jurisdiction. It's interesting - and sometimes a little scary - for catholics to consider that many NT scholars (including catholics) do not believe that this clearly delineated structure reached Rome before very late in the first century or early second. If this is true, then describing Peter as "the first" bishop of Rome may be something of a misnomer.

16 posted on 05/22/2014 9:10:54 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: dangerdoc

Deacons are married.

Some priests who converted to Catholicism from Anglican and Lutheran and other churches are married and they were grandfathered in. I believe we have several in my own diocese.

However, should the priest’s current wife die, they may not remarry.


17 posted on 05/22/2014 9:11:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden

All Catholics belong to the preisthood of the faithful by virtue of the sacrament of baptism. The ministerial priesthood is reserved to those Catholic men who have received the sacrament of Holy Orders. Ministerial priests never cease to belong to the priesthood of the faithful.


18 posted on 05/22/2014 9:15:41 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: dangerdoc
That makes perfect sense in selecting elders of the church but how does that apply the application to the current priesthood?

Paul also clearly states (1 Cor) that celibacy is a higher calling than marriage. Priestly celibacy is a "discipline" as opposed to a "doctrine" of the Latin Rite Church. There are catholic churches that do not impose this discipline (though there is a big difference between a married man being ordained - ok, and a priest getting married - not ok). And there are, even as we "speak," married priests in the Latin Rite Church.

Although, as you might infer from my screen name, my personal faith tradition is not one that follows the Latin Rite discipline, I have come to the conclusion (even before I swam the Tiber) that there is compelling justification for this particular discipline of the Latin Rite Church.

19 posted on 05/22/2014 9:19:10 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: vladimir998

I’m not arguing whether priests should marry or not. I’m just interested in the application of scripture to the priesthood that clearly discusses the married life of the position it discusses.


20 posted on 05/22/2014 9:34:27 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: trad_anglican

If you have not yet read, The Cae for Clerical Celibacy, by Cardinal Stickler, I recommend it highly for its scholarly treatment of the history of clerical celibacy. It was a real eye-opener for me.


21 posted on 05/22/2014 9:35:27 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Salvation
Such silliness!   And it's pretty insulting to suggest that straight-forward hermeneutics is YOPIOS. There is no paucity of doctoral-level-plus biblical scholars that see things the way I represented, yet you to generate a childish insult. Have you no shame?

Your question solicits references of priest occur in the bible, but then conveniently cherry pick, while leaving out other canonized, biblical scripture, ever pretending that you're covering the waterfront, so to speak, if not being exhaustive.

Are you denying biblical canon? Do you burden biblical questions with other, extra-biblical tradition?   What sense does that make?

HF

22 posted on 05/22/2014 9:41:27 AM PDT by holden
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To: eastsider

Thank you for the referral.


23 posted on 05/22/2014 9:43:58 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: holden
You do realize that you're posting on a Catholic Caucus thread, don't you?

It seems to me that you made no representation other than that the word priest appears in 1 Peter.

Also, your swipe at Eucharistic Vestments points to an agenda.

24 posted on 05/22/2014 9:48:22 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: eastsider
Ministerial priests never cease to belong to the priesthood of the faithful.

Is this some distinction you're drawing, as if non "ministerial priests" do cease to belong to the priesthood of the faithful? I'd be interested to know how you arrived at that.

If membership in the priesthood is all by baptism, is there no falling away other than official, church recognized excommunication (I presume you buy the excommunication exclusion--but maybe you don't)?

HF

25 posted on 05/22/2014 10:00:32 AM PDT by holden
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To: trad_anglican
I do have an agenda of faithful adherence to the Bible, yes. None other.

HF

26 posted on 05/22/2014 10:01:49 AM PDT by holden
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To: Salvation

“However, should the priest’s current wife die, they may not remarry”.

Deacons also can’t remarry.


27 posted on 05/22/2014 10:04:04 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: eastsider

Exactly, we just don’t take it seriously, do we?


28 posted on 05/22/2014 10:08:26 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden; Salvation

This thread is for Catholics, so unless you’re a Catholic, you need to leave the thread. It would be greatly appreciated.


29 posted on 05/22/2014 10:08:46 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Admin Moderator
Never before in my sixteen-plus years of FR membership have I had a post removed!

I made no personal attack, other than responding to "salvation" that I was not working from my own interpretation of scripture, as that person suggested.

I think your choice to exclude my post has helped to define FR to be a less-than-friendly, supposedly conservative forum, especially when some would suggest they can post here as if some threads are only for (some definition of elite).

HF

30 posted on 05/22/2014 10:09:08 AM PDT by holden
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To: trad_anglican; Religion Moderator

I’ve asked that it be changed to an Ecumenical thread since I made a mistake in posting. It’s OK.


31 posted on 05/22/2014 10:09:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3158978/posts?page=31#31


32 posted on 05/22/2014 10:11:56 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3158978/posts?page=31#31


33 posted on 05/22/2014 10:13:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden

The Church distinguishes beteen the priesthood of the faithful — which is the set of all Catholics — and the ministerial priesthood — which is the set of all Catholic men who have been ordained as priests in the sacrament of Holy Orders. Both the priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood are different (but not mutually exclusive) ways of sharing in the one priesthood of Christ.


34 posted on 05/22/2014 10:16:17 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Salvation
So you not only attacked me for YOPIOS, but reported abuse onto my post, admitted you made some kind of mistake to the moderator, asked for a change, but still offer no apology to me.

How special!

HF

35 posted on 05/22/2014 10:16:27 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden

I didn’t hit the abuse button. I don’t even know what you posted.


36 posted on 05/22/2014 10:18:50 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: holden

Hey, holden, it happens to Catholics too.

It’s an ecumenical thread. The mods are busy — go ahead and post.


37 posted on 05/22/2014 10:20:37 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Some instruments need to be tuned more often than others,


38 posted on 05/22/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: Salvation; Religion Moderator; Admin Moderator
I apologize if I wrongly suggested whomever did call abuse onto my post that was deleted.

The only criteria I can at this point understand is that it was based on some form of elitism.

"If for some offense, say the offense"; non-Catholic is all I've heard in that category.

HF

39 posted on 05/22/2014 10:28:15 AM PDT by holden
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To: Salvation

Here are the facts regarding celibacy and the priesthood:

1) There is absolutely NOTHING in the Bible which mandates celibacy as a prerequisite for service in the priesthood.

2) The priesthood, though not mentioned in the New Testament, is mentioned extensively in the Old Testament, and yes of course priests were married men with families including Moses’s brother, Aaron.

3) Mandatory clerical celibacy did not come about until much later in the Catholic Church. After the Middle Ages. In fact the first 40 popes at least were married men and the overwhelming majority of priests and bishops were married men for at least 1,000 years after the founding of the Catholic Church.

4) Mandatory clerical celibacy was put into force by the Church to fight rampant corruption, primarily nepotism and simony.

The Lord commands us to be fruitful and multiply, to celebrate life, not celibate life.

There are ALREADY married men serving as priests in the Catholic Church and they are just as holy as the single celibate priests.


40 posted on 05/22/2014 11:18:05 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Salvation
There is a seperate Greek word for priest (ἱερεύς) ... it is used extensively in the gospels (not surprising) and extensively in Hebrews (which basically shows how the old covenant ... which had priests ... is inferior to the new covenant).

its never used as an office of the NT church ...

The word doesnt't even appear in the Pauline epistles, where the qualifications for elders and deacons reside.

Are you sure your aren't employing YOPIOS?

41 posted on 05/22/2014 11:28:38 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: vladimir998

There have always been married priests in the Church.

btw... Christ is the Bridegroom and the Church is His Bride.


42 posted on 05/22/2014 11:34:04 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

“4) Mandatory clerical celibacy was put into force by the Church to fight rampant corruption, primarily nepotism and simony”

The ironic thing is, and sad to say, that this did not stop corruption nor nepotism nor simony. Review 1200-1500


43 posted on 05/22/2014 11:38:57 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: dartuser
There is a seperate Greek word for priest (ἱερεύς)

It's too bad English doesn't have a word which means exclusively "hieraeus," as distinct from "presbuteros," but it doesn't. The original derivation and application of the word "priest" in English was to Christian presbyters.

And the Old Covenant is inferior to the New because its sacrifice and priesthood were only an image of the New covenant's sacrifice and priesthood, both of which flow through Christ.

44 posted on 05/22/2014 12:25:38 PM PDT by Campion
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To: holden

1 Pt 2:9 is paraphasing Ex 19:6, which didn’t seem to prohibit a distinct, ordained priesthood in Judaism.


45 posted on 05/22/2014 12:26:24 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the flag.

Prayers for all of our priests.


46 posted on 05/22/2014 12:27:08 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: dartuser

Yes, the Septuagint uses that priestly root word to refer to Melchizedek in Genesis 14:18, as “priest of the God Most High”.

Nice precedent for understanding 1 Peter 2, I’d say!

HF


47 posted on 05/22/2014 12:33:50 PM PDT by holden
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To: holden; trad_anglican

I do have an agenda of faithful adherence to the Bible, yes. None other.

***
And you have every right to such.

Get back to us when some Catholic shows up at your church and tries to tell you how to worship God or what your “adherence to the Bible” should look like. Pretty sure nobody here has done that.


48 posted on 05/22/2014 12:39:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: holden
Your post was removed because the thread was labeled "Catholic Caucus" meaning that only currently active Catholics may post on the thread. Later, it was discovered that the article mentioned Protestantism and therefore would not qualify for a caucus. Therefore the label was changed to "ecumenical" and your post was restored.

Click on my profile page for more on the Religion Forum guidelines.

49 posted on 05/22/2014 12:44:16 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Thank you for your explanation and action.
HF


50 posted on 05/22/2014 1:21:29 PM PDT by holden
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