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Pope Francis Entrusts Holy Land Pilgrimage to Mary
NC Register ^ | 5/23/2014 | BY CNA/EWTN NEWS

Posted on 05/23/2014 7:05:24 PM PDT by delchiante

Pope Francis privately visited the Basilica of St. Mary Major in Rome this morning to pray and entrust to the Virgin Mary his pilgrimage to the Holy Land. After 15 minutes of meditation and prayer before the image of Mary known as Salus Populi Romani, Pope Francis offered a bouquet of white and yellow roses at the feet of the Virgin. Since the beginning of his papal ministry in March 2013, this is the eighth visit Pope Francis has made to the Virgin Mary, under whose protection he has placed his pontificate. Speaking to Vatican Radio, the archpriest of the basilica, Spanish Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello, explained that Pope Francis sees Mary as a maternal guide and inspiration for his actions.

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We should be pro Truth....and I know his trip will get lots of exposure here...

The 15 Promises Our Lady Gave For Praying the Most Holy Rosary - given within the instruction manual of How to Pray the rosary

Promises 1 of 15: Whoever shall faithfully SERVE Me (MARY) by the recitation of the Rosary, shall receive signal graces.

Testing the spirit we find...

Deut 6:13-13 Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God, and SERVE HIM....

Deut 10:20-  Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God; HIM SHALT THOU SERVE

1 Sam 7:3 Then Samuel spake unto all the house of Israel, saying, If ye be come again unto the Lord with all your heart, put away the strange gods from among you, and Ashtoreth, and direct your hearts unto the Lord, and SERVE HIM ONLY......

Mathew 4:8-10-8 Again the devil took him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them, 9 And said to him, All these will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down, and worship me. 10 Then said Joshua unto him, Avoid Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM ONLY SHALT THOU SERVE...

Luke 4:8-8 But Joshua answered him, and said, Hence from me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and HIM ALONE THOU SHALT THOU SERVE.

Testing her very first promise she is shown to be a liar..

Maybe mary was misquoted or mistranslated..

When tested against The Word and The Word that became flesh, she or whoever came up with these first person promises, come out as less than credible..

So, whatever she is pointing to, it isn't the Messiah of Israel...

and she does point to jesus in those promises (once at least, with lots being I, Me, My) and catholics and this pope and maybe all popes will/would say that very thing...

And that should not go unnoticed by protestants,who take great pains to say how much different they are from the mother church...how different are your beliefs?

The world could very well be one big counterfeit..accepting false premises as absolute given truth...

Substitutes that look almost like The Genuine Way, Truth, and Life.

We were warned by the apostles this could/would happen...

1 posted on 05/23/2014 7:05:25 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Good luck with that.


2 posted on 05/23/2014 7:07:24 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: delchiante

Oh wow, your brilliant analysis has convinced me. /s


3 posted on 05/23/2014 7:22:09 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: delchiante

Esau visit Jacob. Interesting.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 7:27:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: delchiante
Protestants and the rosary
The Protestant Reformers on the Virgin Mary
Mary Is a Model Who Works With Us and in Us
The Real Presence and Mary

Christ, God's Gift Through Mary
Mary not just for Catholics anymore
Through Mary to Jesus
Her saving grace - the origins of the Immaculate Conception
Open to Life: Asking Protestants to Ponder Mary

5 posted on 05/23/2014 7:32:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: delchiante

Has the pope not read the bible? JESUS is who the pope should pray to and worship NOT Mary.

If this isn’t proof of Mary worship by the Catholic church, I don’t know what proof you could still need.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 7:35:56 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
JESUS is who the pope should pray to and worship NOT Mary.

Why did Jesus teach us the "Our Father" prayer, rather than the "Our Jesus" prayer?

Did you not read the bible where the Blessed Mother told the wine stewards to do whatever Jesus commanded?

Look up: latria, hyperdulia and dulia. It might help you understand Catholicism better.

7 posted on 05/23/2014 7:57:19 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: delchiante

What makes you think Mary said any of these things??? There is NO New Testament evidence of the Nazarene’s mother setting herself up as a prayer portal


8 posted on 05/23/2014 7:59:09 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: faucetman

He is asking Mary for her prayers and she will ask her son.

Are you familiar with the Wedding at Cana? Who asked for Jesus’ help?

What was said after that?


9 posted on 05/23/2014 7:59:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: faucetman

It was Mary who set forth Jesus in his very first miracle.
It was Mary who interceded on behalf of the wedding family, for meeting their needs.
It was Mary who was then, is now, and shall be the intercessor of all those who shall attend the wedding feast of the Lamb in Heaven.

Protestants are coming around to Jesus teaching of God in three persons, in terms of a family.

The Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit the Spouse, who overshadowed the perpetual Virgin.

To have a father, one has a mother. What is a son without a mother? Why draw pictures in terms of family at all, only to leave the mother out.

Mary was no surrogate for God and corrected all Eve destroyed, in every way.

By Eve, we are sinners all, in need of forgiveness. By Mary as Mother of our Salvation, we are grateful and indebted forever, and we are her children in Christ, for whom she gladly intercedes on our behalf.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 8:18:55 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Nifster

There’s a whole lot evidence in the Old Testament. Why do you ignore it?


11 posted on 05/23/2014 8:19:40 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: faucetman

Amen.


12 posted on 05/23/2014 8:21:36 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: ebb tide

Incredible.


13 posted on 05/23/2014 8:29:24 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: faucetman; delchiante

The Catholics are wrong on this.

Jesus is God.

Mary is a person.

Worship God.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 8:32:33 PM PDT by logitech (It is time.)
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To: delchiante
Wait...

WHAT?

15 posted on 05/23/2014 8:34:00 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: RitaOK
Protestants are coming around to Jesus teaching of God in three persons, in terms of a family.

Says who??!! Scott Hahn and his perverted proposal that the Holy Ghost is a "bridal" or "mother" figure????

When Christ spoke of the Paraclete, He always referred to Him in the masculine sense.

How could Christ become "incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary" and not have two mothers according to Hahn's protestant preaching?

16 posted on 05/23/2014 8:35:37 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: kinsman redeemer

Your tag line pretty well describes the great dragon in Revelation coming to devour the offspring of the Woman (Mary) over whom the dragon has no victory, I believe it goes, but it is he the dragon who is destroyed. Mary is mighty as the daughter of God, Mother of the King.

Mary bears the fullness of Grace. The sound of her voice gave cause for John the Baptist to leap, in the womb of his mother.
As son and Shepherd, Jesus obliged Mary’s every request.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 8:35:40 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: logitech

Mary is the Mother of God. Ignore Her at your own risk.


18 posted on 05/23/2014 8:36:48 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: RitaOK

Incredible.
You hermeneutical prowess is astounding.
Just kidding... no it isn’t.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 8:40:42 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: logitech

So was Mary the mother of Jesus, fully God and fully human?

Or are you falling into a heresy?


21 posted on 05/23/2014 8:40:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“He is asking Mary”

No Biblical reason to believe she can hear him.

“for her prayers”

Assuming he is a believer, her prayers are not stronger or more efficacious than his.

“and she will ask her son.”

No reason to think she will do this.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 8:42:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Are you saying that you don’t believe in the power of God in heaven? Or the power of Jesus Christ who worked many miracles?

Strange.


23 posted on 05/23/2014 8:45:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: logitech

Catholics agree with you. In spades. Where we differ is a “person”, does not often have sent to them an Archangel, who names them “full of grace”, proclaiming that the Lord is with them. That they are to be the Mother of God is quite uncommon, a Catholic would posit. But, that’s just us.

Mary is no ordinary “person”.


24 posted on 05/23/2014 8:46:45 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation

“Are you saying that you don’t believe in the power of God in heaven? Or the power of Jesus Christ who worked many miracles?”

Neither.

I’m saying all the stuff you posted is not Biblical, as I pointed out. Not strange. Either it is there or it is not. It is not.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 8:49:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: delchiante

The Mystical Body of Christ: 1 Corinthians 12:27


26 posted on 05/23/2014 8:50:33 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: kinsman redeemer

Prowess? What was prowess? That was simple scripture.


27 posted on 05/23/2014 8:50:44 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3159585/posts?page=9#9

This post isn’t biblical? Good grief it’s the Wedding at Cana where Jesus worked his first miracle.

Mary said to him “They have no wine.”

After Jesus replied she simple said (and her last words in the Bible for all of us!) “Do whatever he tells you.”

What’s not biblical about that?


28 posted on 05/23/2014 8:55:09 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Google up protestant interest in Mary. Take it up with the protestants. Hahn isn’t protestant and has nothing to do with it that I know of.


29 posted on 05/23/2014 8:55:37 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation

she simply said


30 posted on 05/23/2014 8:57:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RitaOK
You can take the Hahn out of Protestism, but you can't take the Protestism out of the Hahn.

Why don't you tell us more about how you and some Protestants consider the Blessed Trinity to be a “family”?

Did Jesus have two Mommies?

31 posted on 05/23/2014 9:04:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: RitaOK
Catholics agree with you. In spades.

Please speak for yourself. You're definitely not speaking for this Catholic.

32 posted on 05/23/2014 9:07:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: Salvation

“What’s not biblical about that?”

That is finally a good question.

That something is *in* the Bible is very different than whether the Bible *teaches* something.

The wedding at Cana is recorded *in* the Bible. The interpretation in your post is *not* taught in the Bible.

That Jesus performed His first miracle at this wedding does *not* teach:

That Jesus always obeys his mother.
That Jesus performed the miracle only because Mary asked him to do something.
That a Christian should ask Mary anything.
That Mary or any other departed saint can hear such a prayer.
That Mary has any reason to pray for such a request.
That Jesus is under any obligation to listen to a such a request and grant it.

All of that is *not* Biblical. The event is recorded in the Bible. The opinion put forth in your post is not Biblical.


33 posted on 05/23/2014 9:09:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: RitaOK
...who names them “full of grace”, ...

Acts Of Apostles 6:8 And Stephen, full of grace and fortitude, did great wonders and signs among the people.

34 posted on 05/23/2014 9:14:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I pity you Protestants, for it seems your Bibles do not have footnotes that are approved.

What I posted is valid Catholic teaching....You cannot accuse me of these additional things is absurd. Good night.


35 posted on 05/23/2014 9:14:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Even the About Christianity website has some of these details.....duh!

Jewish weddings were steeped in tradition and ritual. One of the customs was providing an extravagant feast for guests. Something went wrong at this wedding, however, because they ran out of wine early. In that culture, such a miscalculation would have been a great humiliation for the bride and groom.

Mary turned to Jesus and said,

"They have no more wine."

"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied. "My time has not yet come."

His mother said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you." (John 2:3-5, NIV)

Nearby were six stone jars filled with water used for ceremonial washing. Jews cleansed their hands, cups, and vessels with water before meals. Each large pot held from 20 to 30 gallons.

Jesus told the servants to fill the jars with water. He ordered them to draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet, who was in charge of food and drink. The master was unaware of Jesus' turning the water in the jars into wine.

The steward was astounded. He took the bride and groom aside and complimented them. Most couples served the best wine first, he said, then brought out cheaper wine after the guests had too much to drink and would not notice. "You have saved the best till now," he told them (John 2:10, NIV).

By this miraculous sign, Jesus revealed his glory as the Son of God. His amazed disciples put their faith in him.

Points of Interest from the Story:

 

 


36 posted on 05/23/2014 9:19:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

How’s this for biblical:

>>I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. Genisis 3:15<<


37 posted on 05/23/2014 9:20:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (Catholics are coming around to be Protestants)
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To: ebb tide

So that makes Mary higher than G-d? G-d is the lesser? Mary is more than G-d?


38 posted on 05/23/2014 9:22:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: SkyDancer

Latria, hyperdulia, and dulia.


39 posted on 05/23/2014 9:24:20 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Sorry. Don’t speak Latin. Hebrew some. Yiddish a bit more. Mary was just a means for G-d to come into the world. A door so to speak. I don’t worship a door. I worship Yashua who is above Mary.


40 posted on 05/23/2014 9:27:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus set the table. Jesus proclaimed the Father.

Himself the Son, why declare having a Father, if there is no mother to this “family”-like description?

If God Almighty was so meticulous and exacting for the tabernacle that in the Old Testament would house the manna from Heaven, the wooden staff of Moses, and the 10 Commandments, and seen again by John, as his first vision, of the portal of Heaven, (in the Book of Revelation), then certainly the perpetual virgin Mary would be equally and immaculately and exactly formed to bear the Son of God.

This two mommies snark is disrespectful and unworthy of the discussion, here. I am not freaking out and getting hysterical with you, but if you can’t handle discussion any other way, then consider persuing your style with someone else who will
tolerate it. That’s a hint, obviously.


41 posted on 05/23/2014 9:27:33 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: ebb tide

By what rite are you Catholic, I inquire.


42 posted on 05/23/2014 9:29:54 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SkyDancer

Look it up!

After the love which we owe Jesus Christ, we must give the chief place in our heart to the love of His Mother Mary.” ~ Alphonsus Liguori

For Reflection:

Why is this so? The Church teaches there are three forms of praise – latria, hyperdulia, and dulia. Latria refers to adoration and worship and is reserved for God alone. Dulia is the praise given to all of those who have achieved sanctity and accomplished much for the Kingdom of God. Hyperdulia is dulia to the superlative degree. This is reserved for Mary. What distinguishes Mary from every other saint, so much so that she is titled Queen of All Saints? How do all of the quotes we have discussed this month point to the hyperdulia owed to her?


43 posted on 05/23/2014 9:33:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Your scriptural example is not a greeting by an Archangel, as in a name. Simon name was changed to “Peter”. Mary was titled full of grace at the first encounter with Archangel Gabriel.


44 posted on 05/23/2014 9:35:52 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Salvation

Dear Salvation,
I accuse you of nothing. I am answering the question you asked me. All I am responding to is your post.


45 posted on 05/23/2014 9:36:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: RitaOK

And Luke 1:26 and onward tells us that Mary is no ordinary person.

God bless.


46 posted on 05/23/2014 9:39:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Okay. You're quoting Catholic writers. I'm Jewish and I know my faith. We Jews gave Christianity to the world. I am also a Messianic Jew in that I believe in Yashua as Messiah, just like His disciples did as well as Paul. Mary was just an instrument for G-d to send His son into the world - spirit entering the world through Mary. I cannot put Mary above Yashua as you say - "... we must give the chief place in our hearts to the love of His Mother Mary" I would never worship a human in place of G-d the Son - Yashua.
47 posted on 05/23/2014 9:41:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: SkyDancer

Where did I say that Mary was above Jesus?

That was a saint who said that. I was explaining the latin words of latria, dulia and hyperdulia, that’s all.

Something to think about —

What if God at the creation already knew that he was sending his Son, Jesus, and already knew at that time that Mary would be the human mother through the Holy Spirit?

Could it have happened that way? With God there is no A to B timeline as humans have. With God 1000 years could be the blink of an eye.


49 posted on 05/23/2014 9:45:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SkyDancer
I'm Jewish and I know my faith.

Anyone who truly knows the Catholic faith becomes a Catholic.

50 posted on 05/23/2014 9:47:46 PM PDT by ebb tide
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