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Pope kisses the hand of, concelebrates mass with pro-homosexual activist priest
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/23/14 | Hilary White

Posted on 05/24/2014 3:42:57 PM PDT by BlatherNaut

ROME, May 16, 2014 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Pope Francis raised eyebrows earlier this month by concelebrating Mass with and kissing the hand of a leading homosexual activist priest campaigning for changes in the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. On May 6, Francis received the 93 year-old priest who has cofounded the homosexualist activist organization, Agedo Foggia, that is opposed to Catholic Church teaching.

Fr. (Don) Michele de Paolis concelebrated Mass with Pope Francis at the Domus Santa Martha and then presented the pontiff with gifts of a wooden chalice and paten and a copy of his most recent book, “Dear Don Michele - questions to an inconvenient priest”.

In a previous book, Don Michele wrote, “homosexual love is a gift from (God) no less than heterosexual.” He also disparaged the idea of homosexual couples not having sex.

Francis closed the meeting by kissing the priest’s hand, a gesture that the far-left newspaper L'immediato called one “revealing the humility of a great man to another of the same stature.” De Paolis described the unusual papal gesture himself in a post to his Facebook page, saying that he asked Francis for an audience with the priest’s other organization, the Community of Emmaus: “Is that possible?”

He said that the pope replied, “Anything is possible. Talk to Cardinal Maradiaga and he shall prepare everything.”

“And then (unbelievably) he kissed my hand! I hugged him and wept,” de Paolis concluded.

The gesture has made something of a sensation in Italian media and ‘blogs since de Paolis is a well-known figure in Italy as a leading clerical apologist for the homosexualist ideology. He ostensibly met with Francis in his capacity as the founder of Emmaus Community in the southern Italian city of Foggia that assists the poor and those suffering from AIDS.

But it is for his cofounding of Agedo Foggia, an “association of parents, relatives and friends of homosexuals” (Associazione di genitori, parenti e amici di persone omosessuali) – that campaigns to promote the homosexualist and gender ideology in Italian society and the Church – that he is best known in this country.

LifeSiteNews asked Vatican spokesman Fr. Frederico Lombardi for clarification as to the nature of the encounter but received no reply by press time.

In addition to support from the City of Foggia, Agedo Foggia is funded by and working with the UNAR, the Italian government’s National Antidiscrimination and Racism Office (Ufficio Nazionale Antidiscriminazioni Razziali) that has issued documents threatening journalists with prison if they fail to portray homosexuality in a positive light.

The website of Agedo Lecce carries an extensive quote from one of de Paolis’s books to help readers “get out of the quagmire of biblical precepts”. He wrote, “[W]e must overcome the letter of Scripture. It is the same St. Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:6 who says, ‘The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.’”

“That this biblical letter,” de Paolis wrote, “killed and continues to kill, unfortunately, at times, not only morally but also physically, is a fact. The Bible ‘is’ not the word of God; the Bible ‘contains’ the word of God.”

“Instead of wasting energy in endless controversy the Church aims to build a Christian spirituality of joyous acceptance of self, gratitude to God in the knowledge that homosexual love is a gift from Him no less than heterosexual. A spirituality in which we dialogue and we compare to all, but obey God alone.”

Church people, he said, “completely ignore the phenomenon of homosexuality, which science has now clarified unequivocally: the homosexual orientation is not chosen freely by the person. The boy or girl will discover that it is an approach deeply rooted in personality, which is an essential aspect of his identity: it is not a disease, it is not a perversion.”

He lamented the “insensitivity” shown to homosexuals by the Catholic Church, saying, “Some church people say, ‘It’s okay to be gay, but they should not have sex, they can not love each other.’ This is the greatest hypocrisy. It’s like saying to a plant that grows, ‘You must not flourish, you must not bear fruit!’ Yes, it is against nature!’”

“We must have patience with our Mother Church,” he continues. “Her attitude towards homosexuals will change.” He praised the “numerous initiatives” that have already been founded throughout Italy in which “groups of homosexual Catholics have occasional contact with the diocese, usually marked by cordiality.”

De Paolis is a prominent member of an Italian clerical subculture on the extreme, Marxist-informed left that sprang up after the Second Vatican Council. One Catholic writer, Giuseppe Nardi, wrote that de Paolis is a promoter of the “anarcho-Catholicism” of the extreme left that has been dominant in the Church in Italy, as well as in the South American Church, since the 1970s.

De Paolis founded Agedo Foggia with the late Gabriele Scalfarotto, the father of the Italian Deputy Ivan Scalfarotto who sponsored the Italian parliament’s “anti-homophobia” bill that has been denounced by family activists as an attempt to shut down any moral criticism of the homosexual lifestyle. Recently pro-family and Catholic activists in Italy sought to secure Pope Francis’s aid in opposing the bill.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; pope; religiousleft

1 posted on 05/24/2014 3:42:57 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

And the point is....?


2 posted on 05/24/2014 3:48:36 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: BlatherNaut

I wonder how many heterosexuals are influenced to commit homosexual acts by this attitude of practicing Roman Catholics.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 3:48:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Why hasn’t de Paolis been excommunicated?


4 posted on 05/24/2014 3:53:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: BlatherNaut

Dear Mr. Pope,

I don’t believe anything in the Bible has changed.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 3:56:29 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Ray76

It’s the same ideology keeping Nancy Pelosi from being excommunicated. How many babies are aborted daily because of her and her politics? There isn’t enough time left in their lives to spend in a confessional for what they do advocating homosexuality and the slaughter of babies. Yet, from the bishops, cardinals and pope - crickets.


6 posted on 05/24/2014 4:02:52 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Ray76
Why hasn’t de Paolis been excommunicated?

Good question. And why is Fr. Stefano Maria Manelli, co-founder of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, and spiritual son of Padre Pio and Maximilian Kolbe being persecuted and the order he built being smashed by the Apostolic Commissioner authorized by Pope Francis?

7 posted on 05/24/2014 4:05:14 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
A disheartening gesture by an otherwise doctrinally stalwart Pope.
8 posted on 05/24/2014 4:07:54 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: BlatherNaut

The gift of a wooden chalice is so telling. It seems like a symbol of modesty, being a simple material available to a carpenter. But it precludes the presence of Christ within it as it is not a noble material. Try to find a wooden passover wine cup; they do not exist.


9 posted on 05/24/2014 4:09:08 PM PDT by dangus
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To: BlatherNaut

The Pope needs a blood test


10 posted on 05/24/2014 4:11:45 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: BlatherNaut

Jesus took the hand of the adultress in John 8. He didn’t endorse her adultery.

Jesus supped with the tax collector Zaccheaus. He didn’t endorse his thievery.

Jesus had an audience with Nicodemus. He didn’t endorse his hypocrisy.

Jesus called Matthew to be his disciple. He didn’t endorse his illegal actions as a tax collector.

Jesus calls you and I to “leave our nets” and follow Him. He doesn’t endorse our sin—He wants us to LEAVE OUR SINFUL LIVES BEHIND.

I am not even Catholic, and I can see that. Francis, I presume, is reaching out to the lost soul who endorses sodomy—Francis is not endorsing sodomy.


11 posted on 05/24/2014 4:14:48 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: dangus
The gift of a wooden chalice is so telling.

Pray he doesn't use it.

12 posted on 05/24/2014 4:18:15 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: SoFloFreeper
I am not even Catholic, and I can see that. Francis, I presume, is reaching out to the lost soul who endorses sodomy—Francis is not endorsing sodomy.

It's Francis' sacred duty to STOP this priest from publicly endorsing sodomy, both for his own sake and to prevent him from leading other souls astray. "But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea". There have been no reports of this priest publicly repenting for leading little ones astray. The Pope kissing his hand will be widely interpreted as a sign of affirmation.

13 posted on 05/24/2014 4:29:06 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: dangus

It’s telling, all right. It tells of a direct challenge to authority, defiant disobedience masquerading as humility. Uriah Heep in clericals — both of them.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 4:32:38 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: SoFloFreeper

Agreed...Jesus loved the sinner, not the sin.


15 posted on 05/24/2014 4:37:06 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: BlatherNaut
The Pope kissing his hand will be widely interpreted as a sign of affirmation.

Perhaps by those who think like those who criticized Jesus, right?

While Jesus was having dinner at Levi’s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him. When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

The Pope has not endorsed perversion by reaching out to someone who is perverted.

16 posted on 05/24/2014 4:39:53 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
The Pope has not endorsed perversion by reaching out to someone who is perverted.

How about kissing the hand of an activist homosexual priest and celebrating mass with him?

That's a little bit different from merely "reaching out."

17 posted on 05/24/2014 4:45:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SoFloFreeper

All of your examples turned away from their sin. Did this homosexual priest repent from his sin and heresy?


18 posted on 05/24/2014 4:46:20 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.””

Please show me where the pope has called them sinners.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 4:50:13 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: BlatherNaut

Followed by: “What the Pope really meant to say was (fill in the blank).


20 posted on 05/24/2014 4:50:59 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This priest is not just a sinner: he is a heretic. He is promoting changes to Church teaching.

Did Jesus kiss the hands of heretics?


21 posted on 05/24/2014 5:02:09 PM PDT by piusv
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To: BlatherNaut

And it is Francis that causes scandal.....again.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 5:05:28 PM PDT by piusv
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To: SoFloFreeper

I believe it was Paul that taught, we have the right to judge other Christians, if they are sinning, we are to turn them away until they repent. When they repent, welcome them back with open arms. He spoke of this in Corinthians, the Corinthian church....

The folks that Jesus bestowed his hand, ate with, asked to follow him, etc were not yet Christians.

This priest who endorses homosexuality is not following the Lord, the Bible, etc. There is a difference, Jesus said, Go and sin no more”....


23 posted on 05/24/2014 6:16:29 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: boycott

apparently much of the advice of the Holy Spirit via Paul’s writings is being ignored. you can pray for them but you can’t give them legitimacy and that’s exactly what he’s done.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 6:16:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Engedi

thank you, your response is biblically sound.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 6:17:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Engedi

Good point. The Corinthian church was instructed to do so....hmm. I will have to think about that. Thanks.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 6:18:26 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: boycott
I don’t believe anything in the Bible has changed.

It never has and it never will. It's the Word of God. Since God hasn't changed, why would His word do so?

27 posted on 05/24/2014 6:30:09 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SoFloFreeper

All those you mention repented. And they weren’t leaders.

To embrace an activist gay priest is repugnant. Millions of kids are watching and will think there’s nothing wrong with the lifestyle.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 6:33:37 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: what's up

To embrace an activist gay priest is repugnant. Millions of kids are watching and will think there’s nothing wrong with the lifestyle.

Agree! How many young boys will think it is normal when priest hit on them.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 7:06:13 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: BlatherNaut

Again I say... The pope’s new title is

Pope Peron II


30 posted on 05/24/2014 8:55:14 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t think you have the analogy correct.

If one of Jesus’ disciples were practicing the items you list he may have acted differently toward his disciple.

A more correct analogy would be if a non-leader came to the Pope and acted the way in which this priest has acted, then I believe your post would be correct. But we don’t have that.

We have a leader in the catholic church which is violating the requirements for being a leader, overtly sinning (I assume he is a practicing homosexual), and also encouraging others to do sin in like manner. Many verses which show that this individual needs to removed from his leadership, and possibly put out of the church.


31 posted on 05/24/2014 9:09:46 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a classical Christian approach to homeschool])
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To: Cvengr
I wonder how many heterosexuals are influenced to commit homosexual acts by this attitude of practicing Roman Catholics.

By the same token, I wonder how many heterosexuals will be influenced to commit homosexual acts because you made this silly statement.

32 posted on 05/25/2014 4:26:40 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ForYourChildren

see posts 23 and 26.


33 posted on 05/25/2014 6:02:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: trebb

None, but those who condone homosexuality in the Body of Christ are complicit. More evidence of a charade within the RCC pretending to be the only church, when they instead promote worship of anything other than through faith in Christ.


34 posted on 05/25/2014 6:51:27 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: BlatherNaut

The Pope is off to a rousing start, routinely violating the Eighth, Ninth and Tenth Commandments, an now this open endorsement of a priest’s homosexuality by allowing him to perform the Mass with Him.

This is becoming beyond disturbing. Is Suwa available? He would’t want to miss kissing her.


35 posted on 05/25/2014 7:14:31 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Cvengr
I wonder how many heterosexuals are influenced to commit homosexual acts by this attitude of practicing Roman Catholics.

When I heard about this, I ran down to the Fishermans Wharf and let ten men serially bugger me.

Now I cannot sit down.

36 posted on 05/25/2014 7:16:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: irish guard

The word love sure gets misused

Especially about presuming what Christ felt...

And this Pope sure gets the benefit of a sea of rationalization


37 posted on 05/25/2014 7:21:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Did Jesus “share the pulpit” with those sinners?

Did He kiss the sinners hands?


38 posted on 05/25/2014 7:30:36 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Cvengr

More evidence of a charade within the RCC pretending to be the only church, when they instead promote worship of anything other than through faith in Christ.

...absolutely...why can’t they be more like those Protestants, who wouldn’t be caught dead having homosexual leaders in their ranks...


39 posted on 05/25/2014 10:36:04 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: wardaddy

Well maybe, but I’ll toss myself into the sinner camp and sure hope Christ loves me.


40 posted on 05/25/2014 12:53:01 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Romulus
It’s telling, all right. It tells of a direct challenge to authority, defiant disobedience masquerading as humility. Uriah Heep in clericals — both of them.

"Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord."

41 posted on 05/25/2014 1:59:19 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: irish guard

But that doesn’t mean u ignore wrongdoing as a culture

Those same platitudes excuse all the relativist behavior

Its ruined what we once were

Especially about illegitimacy and queerdom


42 posted on 05/25/2014 2:45:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Cvengr
None, but those who condone homosexuality in the Body of Christ are complicit. More evidence of a charade within the RCC pretending to be the only church, when they instead promote worship of anything other than through faith in Christ.

Thanks - I got a better understanding of your first post. I agree that the RCC is a "bit" misguided about it's importance in the big picture. I think they misinterpret the Bible in many ways and put way too much importance on the Pope and those who follow on down the chain. I usually try to engage in conversations with them in ways that bring the Bible into play. I think it's more useful than going on the attack because it gives us both better perspective.

43 posted on 05/26/2014 3:00:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: wardaddy

This isn’t about me...it’s about the Pope. I’m not going to question his desire to meet with sinners and or talk to them and or say a Mass with one. What we don’t know is what might’ve been said behind closed doors. Not all actions are as they appear. So you and I will disagree in the Pope meeting with someone neither of us may care for, I’d hope for the same with me should to ever have the good fortune of meeting with the Pope.


44 posted on 05/26/2014 6:13:31 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard

Fair enough

I like the last two popes quite a bit.


45 posted on 05/26/2014 7:30:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: wardaddy

I’m with you on Pope Benedict. He saw the pedophile mess and quietly, behind the scenes appointed very conservative cardinals. Also, he saw to the cleaning up of seminaries which were truly liberalized beyond recognition. I still find it interesting that he stepped down and wonder whether there wasn’t something specific he found and couldn’t find a solution to.


46 posted on 05/27/2014 4:20:16 AM PDT by irish guard
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