Skip to comments.How a Protestant spin machine hid the truth about the English Reformation
Posted on 05/25/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Today, May 23, is the anniversary of King Henry VIIIs divorce from Catherine of Aragon the event which started the English Reformation.
In 2003, Charles Clarke, Tony Blairs Secretary of State for Education and Skills, expressed strong views on the teaching of British history.
I dont mind there being some medievalists around for ornamental purposes, but there is no reason for the state to pay for them.
In response, Michael Biddiss, professor of medieval history at Reading University, suggested that Mr Clarkes view may have been informed by Khrushchevs notion that historians are dangerous people, capable of upsetting everything.
In many ways, Khrushchev was correct. Historians can be a distinct threat both those who create official history, and those who work quietly to unpick it, filling in the irksome and unhelpful details.
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This started it, not some monarch.
So the muslims, athiests, and leftists are persecuting Christians all over the world and divisive articles like this are a positive?
Also discussed here earlier:
Ever hear of “Bloody Mary”? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Logic you have presented:
Some Americans have done evil things therefore America is evil.
I suggest you learn a lot more about everything in order to improve yourself.
Religious Moderator. Please delete. Already posted.
“Bloody Mary’s” death toll pales in comparison to Elizabeth’s - both in terms of total quantity and rate. The Protestants will eventually recognize the authority of the Church that Christ founded.
I visited the famous study of Father Martin Luther's in Wartburg Castle (Germany) and had the DARK STAIN pointed out to us.
I have NO DOUBT that Satan tried to tempt FATHER Luther. FATHER Luther (10 November 1483 18 February 1546) was a German monk, Catholic priest and professor of theology.
That made him a TARGET for Satan and his evil minions. I hope that some of the ink got on ole Beelzebub.
From Google: Edward VI (12 October 1537 6 July 1553) was King of England and Ireland from 28 January 1547 until his death. He was crowned on 20 February at the age of nine. The son of Henry VIII and Jane Seymour, Edward was the third monarch of the Tudor dynasty and England's first monarch raised as a Protestant.
The best laid plans...
Now there is Charles and Camilla...and Prince Charles' and Princess Diana's sons.
Why I follow Christ alone, without the aid of mega Popes, mega Preachers, mega churches, praying to dead people, praying to crosses, praying to chinese made beads, praying to statues.
There’s no need to delete; the old one is more than four hours old.
I was merely pointing-out that it was further discussed elsewhere.
Wow... this thread is just... vile.
IMHO anyone seeking to sow discord, resentment, and anger among followers of Christ is doing the work of Satan. Especially at a time in history like now where Christians are being murdered, jailed, and otherwise persecuted.
but what do I know.
Perhaps you don’t pray to the Saints in Heaven because you failed to read St. Paul’s letters asking us to pray for one another and that not even bodily death separates us from the Body of Christ. If you have ever asked any one to pray for you, or for something, you have done the same thing Catholics do when they pray to the Saints. Same thing.
Shame on you.
Henry never divorced Catherine.
This thread must be more of that anti-Catholic hatred I keep hearing about./s
Excuse me? Hid the truth?
I doubt it very much.
More like they were slaughtered by the Kings daughter Bloody Mary, until Elizabeth took the kings new religion and turned it into a liberal version of Catholicism.
This was my summary on what happened in England.
To Jesus Christ I commend my soul; Lord Jesus receive my soul. With her last words still lingering in the air a skilled swordsman, brought over from France, beheaded the reason for Englands reformation. King Henry wanted an annulment from his wife, who had not given him a male heir, so he could marry Anne Boleyn. In time she too would fail to give the King a son.
Interestingly, shortly before her execution on charges of adultery, the Queen’s marriage to the King was dissolved and declared invalid. One would wonder then how she could have committed adultery if she had in fact never been married to the King. Henry the VIIIs desire for a male heir to his throne led England on a path that would eventually lead to what English churchman would call a Via Media.
Henry wanted freedom from the Popes authority but he still insisted his kingdom follow the Catholic doctrine, with only two changes. He wanted an English Bible used in all churches, and the suppression of the unpopular monasteries. The King eventually put forth regulations that only the wealthy and aristocrats could read the Bible, and confiscated the property of many small monasteries adding their money to his royal treasury.
Upon the death of Henrys son Edward VI, Mary Tudor, known in history as Bloody Mary, would attempt to restore Roman Catholicism in England. After almost three hundred executions, including that of Archbishop Thomas Crammer, Queen Mary had reversed most of what Henry and Edward had done. Mary died after only reigning five years and the daughter of the beheaded Anne Boleyn would assume the throne.
Queen Elizabeth, whom Marys cousin Charles V warned her to execute, not only reversed all of Marys policies against the Protestants, but she went farther in her reforms then Henry did. Elizabeth had a policy of theological inclusivism that had no room for Roman Catholicism or extreme Protestantism. Her ideal church was a state church that practiced uniform doctrine that united the kingdom in common worship. Elizabeths Thirty-nine Articles was essentially Protestant but worded in such a way that satisfied both Catholics and Protestants or, Via Media.
With the end of persecutions many Protestants who fled during Marys reign returned to England, only to find Elizabeths religious reforms did not go far enough. With Bibles such as Tyndales, Wyclifs, and others that were written with the help of the newly acquired Greek documents, a new group of believers would emerge.
This new group influenced also by Calvin and other reformers from the mainland, believed in restoring the pure practices and doctrines of the New Testament thus their name the Puritans. These Puritans would eventually become a driving force in English religious life and lead the way to religious freedom and the New World.
“If you have ever asked any one to pray for you, or for something, you have done the same thing Catholics do when they pray to the Saints. Same thing.”
Not even close. Asking another living person to pray for you is far different then someone who has died.
Its too bad the effort isn’t put into spreading the word of Jesus’s sacrafice and path to salvation.
America isn’t a church denomination.
I’m still trying to figure out why I would pray to a saint in heaven asking for intercession when I can just pray to Jesus with my prayer request. I just eliminate the middle man, as it were.
When I ask someone to pray for me, I’m assured that they can hear me ... I have no such assurance that anyone, besides the G_d, can even hear my prayer.
LOL. This is pure roman aggression. And ugly.
If someone is in Heaven they are not dead - they are alive.
Because it is completely scriptural: Revelation 8:3-4 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God's people, on the golden altar in front of the throne.The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God's people, went up before God from the angel's hand.
Doesn’t answer my original question. I pray to Jesus for all my needs, I see no need to pray to anyone else. Just say’n
The Roman Catholic Church is the oldest most profitable mutli-national corporation on the planet
Got that right.
It’s sad, really.
Because you’re not allowed to speak to Jesus directly. See how divisive these kinds of articles are.
Sowing discord among the saints.
Not gonna argue. Jesus is my savior.
What has to happen for a person to get to heaven?
They have to die first.
The Tate recently estimated that over 90 per cent of all English art was trashed in the period, and scarcely a handful of books survived the burning of the great monastic and university libraries. Oxfords vast Bodleian, for instance, was left without a single book.
Shades of Moas great leap forward.
The son came from wife number three, and yes, he died in his teens.
I think you started drinking too early today.
Reads more like Catholics trying to erase 1000 years of Church History with their own revisionism.
The Puritans who traveled to the New World, weren’t Catholics in a ground swell movement to return to Roman Catholicism. Rather, they didn’t believe the Anglican Church had gone far enough to remove all Roman Ritual from faith in Christ.
Re: Shakespeare, he managed to well conceal any devotion to Catholicism when he quotes the Geneva Bible.