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Explaining the Heresy of Catholicism (John MacArthur)
Grace To You ^ | Pastor John MacArthur

Posted on 05/26/2014 4:13:56 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne

Praying to Mary, celebrating the Mass, venerating the Pope—you won’t find those doctrines in the Bible. And yet more than one billion Roman Catholics throughout the world follow such practices in line with the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church.

With that many Catholics around the globe, it’s likely you know some of them as relatives, friends, neighbors, or co-workers. Find out what they don’t know—the origin and error of Catholic doctrine—so you can help the Catholics you know out of the darkness and into the light.

(Excerpt) Read more at gty.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicism; christianity; churches; heresy; liturgy; protestantism; theology; worship
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For those who are interested in the on-going battle on FR between Catholics, who seem to want to dominate the Forum, and those who reject Catholicism, just click on the connection above.

Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California provides eight free sermons out-lining Catholic beliefs and why they are full or error, heresy and idolatry.

1 posted on 05/26/2014 4:13:56 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Dr. Thorne

As a Protestant, I’ve noticed more Catholic bashing by those who would do well in a music video for Ray Stevens’ “Mississippi Squirrel Revival.”


2 posted on 05/26/2014 4:16:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Dr. Thorne; Salvation

Catholics want to dominate the forum?


3 posted on 05/26/2014 4:18:35 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: goodwithagun

You have not been reading what I have, then. Protestant bashing goes on all the time.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 4:19:41 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Dr. Thorne

Hail full of Grace, The Lord is with thee, Blessed art Thou among women and Blessed is the Fruit of thy Womb, Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God pray for us sinner now and at the hour of our Desth. Amen.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam


5 posted on 05/26/2014 4:19:56 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: lacrew

It’s the albino monks, I tell ya.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 4:20:09 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Dr. Thorne

If only the Catholics would watch. They are one group that does NOT want to know the truth of God’s Word.

Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 05/26/2014 4:24:03 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Dr. Thorne

Helq us Dr Thorn, we r stuck here as Catholicks and need your preyers!


9 posted on 05/26/2014 4:24:47 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Oh my gosh. Now granted, we are all off today and have time on our hands but can’t we all just get along? This stuff has been festering for hundreds of years, and it’s not going to be solved in a chat room. Let’s just shake hands and slowly back away


10 posted on 05/26/2014 4:26:38 PM PDT by equalator
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To: MamaB

Keep asking those who claim this to ping when a situation arises. I’ve yet to be pinged. I don’t doubt that it happens, although I’ve never witnessed it, but I frequently find Catholic bashing without even looking for it.


11 posted on 05/26/2014 4:26:50 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

You can’t handle the truth.

So you’re Protestant.

(naah-naah-naaah! I mean, as long as you gotta be juvenile)


12 posted on 05/26/2014 4:29:27 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: RBStealth

I’m with B4Ranch. Dr. T, is part of your gospel ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’ or is that just irrelevant? IF your goal is to win hearts for Jesus ....


13 posted on 05/26/2014 4:29:36 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: goodwithagun

So true.

Why is this non-Catholic trying to tell Catholics that Catholicism is a Heresy?

‘Cause it’s not a heresy.


14 posted on 05/26/2014 4:31:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Placemark


15 posted on 05/26/2014 4:31:33 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“For those who are interested in the on-going battle on FR between Catholics, who seem to want to dominate the Forum, and those who reject Catholicism, just click on the connection above.”

Would it add to the quasi-festive martial atmosphere here if someone can arrange to have a rousing rendition of “Onward Christian Soldiers” being sung in the background while people are linked to this thread?

I can’t speak for the other few Buddhists I know of here on FR, but I - for one - am pleased as punch to be left out of the squabbling.


16 posted on 05/26/2014 4:32:03 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Maybe if Christians would stop stabbing each other in the back Christianity would be better able to defend itself against assault by the secular left and islam. Of course recognizing that Catholics and Orthodox are in fact Christians would help. Is it truly accepted that Christianity did not exist from the final chapter of Revelation to the Ninety Five Theses?


17 posted on 05/26/2014 4:32:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Some real heresies for you. The author is in error.

On Punching Heretics
Catholic Word of the Day: HERESY, 09-21-13
They Just Won't Go Away: Ancient Heresies in Post-Modern Dress (Ecumenical)
Radio Replies Second Volume - Eutychianism
Radio Replies Second Volume - Nestorianism
Radio Replies Second Volume - Arianism
Radio Replies Second Volume - Manichaeism
Radio Replies Second Volume - Defections From the Catholic Church
Radio Replies Second Volume - Gnosticism
Marcionites

Nestorius on Mary as the Mother of God (Ecumenical)
The Day Nestorius Rocked the Church and an Empire
How Quickly Catholic Heresy Took Over the Church (Immediately)
Hilaire Belloc’s “The Great Heresies” now available in EPUB format
Chapter 6: The Modern Phase [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 5: What Was The Reformation? [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 4: The Albigensian Attack [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 3: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed [The Great Heresies]
Chapter 2: The Arian Heresy [The Great Heresies
Chapter 1: Scheme Of This Book [The Great Heresies]

Introduction: Heresy [The Great Heresies]
The Great Heresies
John Calvin’s Worst Heresy: That Christ Suffered in Hell
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Succumbs to Heresy
The Bishop Discovers Heresy?
From Orthodox to Heresy: The Secularizing of Catholic Universities
Progressivism/Liberalism is Heresy [Excellent read & reference]
Is heresy better than schism? [Ecumenical]
Modernism: The Modernist Heresy
THE GREAT HERESIES-THE MODERN PHASE

The Protestant Heresy
The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene
Americanism, Then and Now: Our Pet Heresy (encyclical of Pope Leo XIII)
Heresies then and now: ancient Christian heresies practiced in modern times
The Plain Truth About The Baptist Bride Heresy
Balthasar, Hell, and Heresy: An Exchange (is it compatable with the Catholic faith?)
Know Your Heresies
The Rev. John Piper: an interesting look at "heresy vs. schism"
Pietism as an Ecclesiological Heresy
Heresy
Arian Heresy Still Tempts, Says Cardinal Bertone (Mentions Pelagianism As Well)

Catholic Discussion] Church group stays faithful (to heresy!)
An overview of modern anti-Trinitarian heresies
Where heresy and dissent abound [Minnesota]
Gnostic Gospels - the heresy entitled "Gnosticism."
Christian mavericks find affirmation in ancient heresies
The So-Called ‘Gospel’ of Judas: Unmasking an Ancient Heresy
Benedict XVI Heresies and Errors
Donatism (Know your heresies)
The Heresy of Mohammed (Chapter 4, The Great Heresies)
Father & Son Catholic Writers Tag-Team Old & New Heresies

18 posted on 05/26/2014 4:32:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Dr. Thorne; dcwusmc; Jed Eckert; Recovering Ex-hippie; KingOfVagabonds; Berlin_Freeper; UnRuley1; ..

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


19 posted on 05/26/2014 4:32:39 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: bboop

I’m getting the popcorn. Who wants to get the sodas?


20 posted on 05/26/2014 4:33:22 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: RBStealth

LOL!


21 posted on 05/26/2014 4:33:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LurkingSince'98

The Catholic mantra. Nice work, Maharishi. Why really talk to God when you can pray a thoughtless prayer over and over?


22 posted on 05/26/2014 4:34:18 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: goodwithagun

Thanks.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 4:35:20 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Conspiracy theory and ignorance about Catholicism. Am I sensing a natural link here?


24 posted on 05/26/2014 4:36:01 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: dagogo redux

Pleased as punch, eh?

Swift’s Big-Endians won’t like that!


25 posted on 05/26/2014 4:36:03 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: narses; Salvation

Stop dominating the forum!!

26 posted on 05/26/2014 4:36:21 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: lacrew

We need the practice. Lord knows world domination is a one step at a time endeavor and starting with a forum is a very decent start.

MWWAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!


27 posted on 05/26/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: equalator
... can’t we all just get along?

Nope.




28 posted on 05/26/2014 4:37:21 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Pastor John MacArthur

A very distant relative of General MacArthur.

29 posted on 05/26/2014 4:37:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Dr. Thorne

My Bible is a study Bible with commentary by MacArthur. Listening to one of the audio tracts right now to what you linked.

I still don’t like these threads bashing each other. But the truth does need to be told.
But love for others is critical.


31 posted on 05/26/2014 4:38:31 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

As a Protestant Christian I think it very wrong to bash another persons religion. We are all the family of God and our enemies are huge. We must all stand together as separated we will all fall before sward of our foes. Our church recites the apostles creed, -which is catholic and that’s all that is necessary because what it says is our faith. We just worship differently.


32 posted on 05/26/2014 4:38:41 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: RBStealth

You could try rebooting your mind control chip installed by the Vatican. Sometimes that erases the uplink and you will be free. But don’t count on it. Tentacles of Vatican doom are everywhere!


33 posted on 05/26/2014 4:38:44 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Salvation
Why is this non-Catholic trying to tell Catholics that Catholicism is a Heresy?

We just talked on another thread where a non-protestant was telling protestants that being a protestant is heresy. Weird eh?

34 posted on 05/26/2014 4:39:12 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Jesus is really going to piss everyone off when He lets both Catholics and Protestants into heaven. For the next ten thousand years, He’s going to hear nothing but “why did You let THEM in?”


35 posted on 05/26/2014 4:40:13 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Vinylly

Agreed.

If Idiots Could Fly, This Place Would Be an Airport


36 posted on 05/26/2014 4:40:36 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Dr. Thorne

Shouldn’t we be fighting together against the liberals instead of with each other?

Anyone who posts this kind of post is not looking to make the world a better place, they are looking to cause trouble. Whether the information is true or not does not matter, it is meant to divide and not bring us together under God’s love. Shame on you!


37 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:09 PM PDT by mrsadams
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To: Dr. Thorne

Christianity came out of Judaism. Yashua is Jewish. Just saying.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: narses

This is all true with a capital “T”.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:32 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: bboop
"You shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free" - John 8:32

I'm not interested in getting along like some moderate. I'm interested in the Truth. Catholics don't know the Truth because they have allowed their church to tell them lies which only serve to oppress them. Maybe if they take the time to listen to what John MacArthur has to say, they might learn something.

40 posted on 05/26/2014 4:41:45 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: caveat emptor; All

this is why we can’t have nice things


42 posted on 05/26/2014 4:42:18 PM PDT by equalator
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To: narses

Keep mumbling. Mary can’t help you.


43 posted on 05/26/2014 4:43:41 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Vinylly

you don’t think it’s incumbent on us to tell others the truth? you think we should pretend everyone knows and walks in the truth? I base my life on biblical truth and unfortunately, there are many religions that do not. And when you point it out, THEY become hostile.


44 posted on 05/26/2014 4:44:07 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: bboop

Does loving your neighbor mean turning a blind eye?

Clearly not.


45 posted on 05/26/2014 4:45:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Vinylly
Please listen to what Pastor MacArthur has to say. We don't “just worship differently”. Catholicism blunts the message of salvation in the Gospel and redirects its adherents to worshipping humans instead of God. That means the church is actively trying to stop people from being saved! Is that serious enough for you to care?
47 posted on 05/26/2014 4:48:02 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: mrsadams

It is not shameful to tell the truth. Shame on you for suggesting that it is.


48 posted on 05/26/2014 4:49:18 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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