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Pope calls Muslims 'brothers' at Dome of the Rock
Yahoo ^ | May 26, 2014

Posted on 05/27/2014 7:17:59 AM PDT by Gamecock

Francis took off his shoes to step into the gold-topped dome, which enshrines the rock where Muslims believe the Prophet Mohammad ascended to heaven.

Speaking to the grand mufti of Jerusalem and other Muslim authorities, Francis deviated from his prepared remarks to refer not just to his "dear friends" but "dear brothers."

"May we respect and love one another as brothers and sisters," he said, and added, "May we learn to understand the suffering of others! May no one abuse the name of God through violence!"

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholicism; domeoftherock; grandmufti; islam; israel; jerusalem; moslems; muslims; pope; popefrancis; templemount
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1 posted on 05/27/2014 7:17:59 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom

Did he plant a big sloppy one on the Koran?


2 posted on 05/27/2014 7:18:30 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

Allah isn’t God and Moslems aren’t our “brothers.”


4 posted on 05/27/2014 7:20:51 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Gamecock

This is a great way to create more schisms in Christianity.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 7:22:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Gamecock

Just because they are brothers doesn’t mean that they can’t go bad.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 7:23:09 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Gamecock

He needs to lay off the wine.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 7:23:12 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Gamecock

He appears to be a socialist (with all the leftist garbage that goes with that) first and a Catholic second.


8 posted on 05/27/2014 7:23:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: logic101.net

Maybe he should read a few history books too.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 7:24:42 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: reg45

“Just because they are brothers doesn’t mean that they can’t go bad.”

Able and Cain?

Jacob and Esau?

Isaac and Ishmael?


11 posted on 05/27/2014 7:25:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Gamecock

I have serious doubts about the Pope’s understanding of the struggle that lies ahead.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 7:27:04 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

This Knight of Columbus says YOU’RE FIRED!


13 posted on 05/27/2014 7:30:27 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Farmer Dean
Just as we constantly remark, berate, attack, belittle and otherwise hate the POS in the white house ... Catholics shold at least begin to show some intelligence and maturity and come out against this imposter.
14 posted on 05/27/2014 7:31:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gamecock
Although we were all created by God, only those who call upon the name of Jesus as Lord are our Brothers.
Or am I just being picky?

(But from someone who decries Western capitalism and feels an affinity to Che Guevera, calling a Muslim a "brother" may be apropo).

15 posted on 05/27/2014 7:32:33 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Gamecock

Did God create them too?


16 posted on 05/27/2014 7:33:43 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Is Allah God?


17 posted on 05/27/2014 7:39:21 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Salvation
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. - John 1:12,13

My brothers are those who believe Jesus is their savior. This "All men are brothers" stuff is globalist, ecumenical hogwash.

18 posted on 05/27/2014 7:40:35 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Salvation

Yes.

But that doesn not make them my brothers. Real brothers don’t chop the heads off their siblings.


19 posted on 05/27/2014 7:41:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

Stupid Pope.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 7:42:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Salvation

Have you ever really taken issue with anything said or done by anyone your faith group? Or do you just stick your head in the sand?


21 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:02 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: All

“May we respect and love one another as brothers and sisters,” he said, and added, “May we learn to understand the suffering of others! ** May no one abuse the name of God through violence!” **

What would Christians disagree with in these quotes? The last sentence seems to be pointed directly at Muslims.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:48 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Gamecock

...”our dear friends, the Saudis”...


23 posted on 05/27/2014 7:44:46 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: Gamecock

Thanks for your honest answer.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 7:45:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Genoa
Is Allah God?

A Christian can be jailed for calling God "allah" in Indonesia.

25 posted on 05/27/2014 7:46:59 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: Olog-hai

Providing a public space for Christians to bash each other seems to be part of FR’s mission.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:16 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Gamecock

sounds like john mccain reaching across the isle!


27 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:24 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Gamecock

pass the popcorn


28 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:31 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Farmer Dean

He knows a lot more about it than we do, trust me.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rbmillerjr

You have to consider the context in which he spoke the\m - ie. inside a mosque.


30 posted on 05/27/2014 7:49:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Gamecock; metmom; Alex Murphy

Popery at its (ahem) very best.

Wonder, I do, where this fits: Scripture or Tradition? Maybe he’s working on some Purgatory time... or some dead saint told him to do that. Regardless, since the “Holy Father” did it, all of Roman Catholicism had best toe the line and fall in line....

;)

Hoss


31 posted on 05/27/2014 7:49:48 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Salvation

That’s what some people say about 0bama.


32 posted on 05/27/2014 7:50:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Jewbacca

Amen to that one!


33 posted on 05/27/2014 7:50:35 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock
But that doesn not make them my brothers. Real brothers don’t chop the heads off their siblings.

Cain. Abel.

Maybe no head-chopping was involved, but murder certainly was.

(I don't care for 90% of the pronouncements from this Pope. And certainly, yes, there are many Catholics who defend everything - good, bad, and ugly - that their Church does. But this statement isn't too awful.)

34 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:34 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Gamecock
I guess he means "brother" in some weird sense having nothing to do with any intelligible concept.

Cain killed his brother Abel.

Muslim invasions have killed tens of millions of Orthodox Christians over the past 1,400 years and have tried to destroy Christianity in the East. Some brothers! But you can't expect someone from the West to know or understand any of that.

35 posted on 05/27/2014 7:52:41 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: HossB86

Of course. Trusting in MAN and not God always spells trouble.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:25 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: HossB86

“Popery at its very best.Wonder, I do, where this fits: Scripture or Tradition?”

So, I suppose some can ignore Scripture when it comes to “loving your brother” and “treating/loving others as you want to be loved”.

Having hope for peace is part of being a Christian. This doesn’t negate our ability to defend ourselves against those who wish to behead us.


37 posted on 05/27/2014 7:56:20 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: DManA
You have to consider the context in which he spoke them - ie. inside a mosque.

Not a good place to be, unless he means to honor the Temple Mount.

38 posted on 05/27/2014 7:58:08 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Yossarian

And that didn’t end well for either one, now did it?


39 posted on 05/27/2014 7:58:13 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: DManA

Oh I see. We can ignore the word of God when the situation demands it.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 7:59:07 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: rbmillerjr

Having sludge for theology helps no one.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 7:59:34 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Gamecock

We can ignore the word if the Pope when the situation demands it. At least I can.


42 posted on 05/27/2014 8:03:29 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Genoa

Popes have been making nice with the muzzies for decades, in the vain hope this will reduce persecution of Middle East Christians. Hasn’t worked.

What we really need is another Pope Urban II. The Pontiff who launched the First Crusade.

Rome wasn’t always this kumbaya about Islam.


43 posted on 05/27/2014 8:04:18 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Genoa

These statements come straight from Scripture.

Ignoring Scripture to justify one’s irrational hate...that’s a special kind of hypocrisy.


44 posted on 05/27/2014 8:05:52 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Gamecock

Question: “Are we all God’s children, or only Christians?”

Answer: The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).

In Scripture, the lost are never referred to as children of God. Ephesians 2:3 tells us that before we were saved we were “by nature objects of wrath” (Ephesians 2:1-3). Romans 9:8 says that “it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.” Instead of being born as God’s children, we are born in sin, which separates us from God and aligns us with Satan as God’s enemy (James 4:4; 1 John 3:8). Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me” (John 8:42). Then a few verses later in John 8:44, Jesus told the Pharisees that they “belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.” The fact that those who are not saved are not children of God is also seen in 1 John 3:10: “This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.”

We become children of God when we are saved because we are adopted into God’s family through our relationship with Jesus Christ (Galatians 4:5-6; Ephesians 1:5). This can be clearly seen in verses like Romans 8:14-17: “…because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ‘Abba, Father.’ The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.” Those who are saved are children “of God through faith in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:26) because God has “predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will” (Ephesians 1:5).

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/all-God-children.html#ixzz32veMQJP5


45 posted on 05/27/2014 8:06:51 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: All

“May we respect and love one another as brothers and sisters,” he said, and added, “May we learn to understand the suffering of others! May no one abuse the name of God through violence!”


46 posted on 05/27/2014 8:07:26 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: Gamecock

did they make him take off his crucifix before allowing him onto the mount?

He should have said a prayer for Abraham and Isaac


47 posted on 05/27/2014 8:08:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: rbmillerjr

RB, the sludge I refer to is the interreligious happy talk we hear from the Pope. You’re much better by comparison.


48 posted on 05/27/2014 8:09:52 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Gamecock

“May no one abuse the name of God through violence!”
Hey Pope! Do you really think they are going to stop murdering, raping, stoning, hanging, burning churches and mutilating juss cuz you said so?


49 posted on 05/27/2014 8:11:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Gamecock

Pope defeats Moslems with warships, not stupoid lovey-dovey crap words.

Pope Pius V went to war against islam Turks- the real First World War at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571..

“If Christendom was split asunder — with even Philip disputing papal control of the Church in Spain — the pope nevertheless had the spiritual and temporal authority, the presence of a future saint, to assemble a Holy League,
a fighting force that included Catholic knights not only from the papal states and the Knights of Malta, but from Italy, Germany, and Spain; and even from England,
Scotland, and Scandinavia, Catholics and freebooters,
gentleman adventurers and convicts condemned to row the galleys.”

Pope Pius V
Pope Pius V....” It was his incessant diplomacy that finally brought together the forces of the papal states, the Knights of Malta, Venice, its smaller rival Genoa, the Savoyards, and, most important, Spain and its possessions Naples and Sicily to form the Holy League.”

...”Catholic losses were 7,500 dead — though many of these were knights and noblemen — and another 22,000 wounded (including Miguel de Cervantes).
Pope Pius V, who had commanded the faithful to pray the rosary for victory, was convinced that it was prayer that had turned the tide. The Battle of Lepanto
became the feast day of Our Lady of Victory, later of Our Lady of the Rosary.”

H. W. Crocker III
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7391


50 posted on 05/27/2014 8:13:15 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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