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No Bail for Defrocked Priest Following New Sex Abuse Charges
NBC Chicago ^ | 5/22/2014

Posted on 05/28/2014 11:28:07 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne

A defrocked Catholic priest and convicted child molester was held without bail Thursday after being arrested in Chicago a day earlier for a sex crime that authorities say occurred in 2005.

Officials said in court Thursday a 10-year-old victim was attending an after school program at St. Agatha's church, where McCormack was a priest.

Prosecutors allege that McCormack took the boy to a White Sox game, and after the game hugged the boy and reached into his pants and fondled him, ordering him not to tell anyone.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/defrocked-priest-daniel-mccormack-sex-abuse-charges-court-260272101.html#ixzz332JU8F00 Follow us: @nbcchicago on Twitter | nbcchicago on Facebook

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; corruption; sexualabuse
False doctrine breeds corruption.
1 posted on 05/28/2014 11:28:07 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: Dr. Thorne

Criminals are criminals.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 11:29:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Criminals don’t claim to be the one true church.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 11:31:59 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Let’s take the argument to its logical conclusion: let’s send the brownshirts out and abolish the Catholic Church and Catholic worship. Pedophilia problem solved? lol


4 posted on 05/28/2014 11:37:43 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Dr. Thorne

The FRoman Catholic meme is these are all vicitms of 15 year old homosexual youths. Not 10 year old boys.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 11:39:47 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Dr. Thorne

It’s not fair to judge their worst by our best. Isn’t it 17 times more likely to be molested by a government school teacher than by a Catholic priest?

On the pedophile himself, NAMBLA et al are always going on about how kids really want this sexualizing at an early age. If that’s true why do they always terrorize the kids to silence?


7 posted on 05/28/2014 11:47:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Criminals don’t claim to be the one true church.

On the contrary. Several years ago, there was a thread in which (some) FRoman Catholics actually claimed that their comparatively high rate of clergy sexual abuse was proof that Rome was the true religion. They claimed that sexual abuse was another form of satanic attack, and therefore whatever church had the most cases of sexual abuse was the "true religion" that Satan was interested in bringing down.

8 posted on 05/28/2014 12:05:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Dr. Thorne
No church claims to be without sinners, does it? Does yours?

Christ said the wheat would grow mingled with tares, and that the tares would not be eliminated until the harvest, when all weeds would be bound in bundles and thrown into the fire.

But sinners don't "define" the Church.

9 posted on 05/28/2014 12:05:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Comparatively high? Compared to what? Not to Protestants, because Protestant churches have higher rates of abuse.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 12:53:08 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Comparatively high? Compared to what? Not to Protestants, because Protestant churches have higher rates of abuse.

That's an unproved, if not incorrect statement. If you can believe the link usually provided by Catholics, there have been only 838 cases of “non-Catholic” abuse in total, and there haven't been any new cases of abuse in a decade. I don’t think Catholics can say the same about their own abuse statistics. No other comparable information has ever been provided by Catholics to back up the claim that Protestant churches have had a higher ratio of abuse.

[Faithful Departed author Philip] Lawler points out that while less than five percent of American priests have been accused of sexual abuse, some two-thirds of our bishops were apparently complicit in cover-ups. The real scandal isn't the sick excesses of a few dozen pedophiles, or even the hundreds of priests who had affairs with teenage boys -- the bulk of abuse cases. No, according to Lawler, it is the malfeasance of wealthy, powerful, and evidently worldly men who fill the thrones -- but not the shoes -- of the apostles. In case after case, we read in their correspondence, in the records of their soulless, bureaucratic responses to victims of psychic torture and spiritual betrayal, these bishops' prime concern was to save the infrastructure, the bricks and mortar and mortgages. Ironically, their lack of a supernatural concern for souls is precisely what cost them so much money in the end.
-- from the thread Kneeling Before the World

"....One aspect of the John Jay report she found particularly helpful was the language it used to describe different ways bishops have responded to reports of abuse in their dioceses -- either as "innovators" or "laggards." The report describes innovators as those who "understood the harmfulness of the (abuse) acts and moved to implement policies to reduce abuse and remove abusers early on." It conversely notes that the response of other bishops "lagged behind, thus creating an image that the church generally was not responsive to victims." The report said the media "often focused on these 'laggards,' further perpetuating the image that the bishops as a group were not responding to the problem of sexual abuse of minors."

The actual report names five categories of bishops: innovators, early adopters, early majority, later majority, and laggards. Very odd that no category is given for bishops like Milwaukee's Rembert Weakland, a category that might be called something like "perpetrators".
-- My comments on the thread John Jay report not just about mistakes in 1960s, says sex abuse expert

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In an article in Sojourners, Rose Marie Berger wrote the following:

"Philip Jenkins concludes in his book Pedophiles and Priests that while 1.7 percent of Catholic clergy have been found guilty of pedophilia (specifically of boys), 10 percent of Protestant ministers have been found guilty of pedophilia."
I regret to say that the statement is baloney. I never said it, and it's not true!

In PEDOPHILES AND PRIESTS, I was attacking a statistic that claimed that a proportion of Catholic priests were pedophiles on the basis that the sample was worthless, since all the men involved were undergoing psychiatric treatment. Hence, you could not extrapolate that figure to the whole priestly population. In order to demonstrate the foolishness of the argument, I cited another study of protestant ministers UNDERGOING TREATMENT, which found that ten percent of them were also pedophiles. By this argument, I remarked - as a reductio ad absurdum - then ten percent of protestant clergy were also pedophiles.

(By the way, pedophilia is a psychiatric condition not a criminal offense, so nobody can be "found guilty of pedophilia")

Every time this ten percent statement appears attributed to me, I try to debunk it, but these things have a life of their own. I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent.

I hope that clarifies my position.

Ms Berger may well be making an excellent point - that there is no evidence that abuse rates are higher for protestant than for catholic clergy. But this particular figure is a kind of urban legend.

Philip Jenkins
Distinguished Professor of History and Religious Studies
Pennsylvania State University
-- from the thread Letter about Catholics wrong about Protestants [re claim 10% of Protestant clergy are sex abusers]


11 posted on 05/28/2014 1:54:56 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
Judging by insurance claims, its not an unproven or incorrect statement.

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm

http://www.christiancentury.org/article/2013-10/evangelicals-worse-catholics-sexual-abuse

http://www.abpnews.com/archives/item/6956-news-analysis-churches-not-typically-first-reporters-of-sexual-abuse

And if the links are to be believed, Protestant are just as likely to try and cover up the situation.

12 posted on 05/28/2014 2:10:21 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Criminals don’t claim to be the one true church.

The One True Church is in the hearts of Christians, whatever their form of worship.

13 posted on 05/28/2014 3:09:40 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

False testimonies bread no faith or love of the truth.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 3:19:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JimRed
The One True Church is in the hearts of Christians, whatever their form of worship

I'm afraid that's not true. The One True Church is the Holy Roman Catholic Church which has the Eucharist.If someone denies the Eucharist, they deny Christ and they are not Christians, no matter what lies the tell themselves in the "sincerity of their hearts".

15 posted on 05/28/2014 3:20:50 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Dr. Thorne

Wrong. Homosexuality breeds corruption. The Catholic Church does have a sex abuse problem with straight priest. They need to weed out the sodomites that were allowed in as a result of the PROTESTANTism allowed in the seminaries after Vatican II.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 3:30:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: JPX2011

“I’m afraid that’s not true. The One True Church is the Holy Roman Catholic Church which has the Eucharist.If someone denies the Eucharist, they deny Christ and they are not Christians, no matter what lies the tell themselves in the “sincerity of their hearts”.”

Oh boy......

Popcorn? check. Beer? check..

O.K.!


17 posted on 05/28/2014 3:50:05 PM PDT by saleman
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I followed your links and if you take 260 times 53 years you get about the same amount as the Catholic Church. (If only they could marry.)

I notice that you didn’t get a reply.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 3:56:03 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
I followed your links and if you take 260 times 53 years you get about the same amount as the Catholic Church. (If only they could marry.) I notice that you didn’t get a reply.

Wow - it's only been two hours, and life intervened in the meantime. Is that not good enough for you?

19 posted on 05/28/2014 4:02:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: saleman
Oh boy......Popcorn? check. Beer? check..O.K.!

It's true. I'm something of a shin kicker. Particular when certain protestants exhibit their obsession with homosexuality

20 posted on 05/28/2014 4:02:11 PM PDT by JPX2011
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If someone denies the Eucharist, they deny Christ...

Deny the Eucharist? The Eucharist is celebrated in other Christian denominations as well; they refer to it as Holy Communion. The difference is that most do not include it in every service as it is included in the Mass.

I was baptized Catholic, raised Pentecostal, and am now Catholic. Growing up I remember communion Sundays as being special in the small Pentecostal church to which we belonged. Matzo for the body; a small taste of grape juice for the children as the blood.

21 posted on 05/28/2014 5:57:23 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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