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Pope, Orthodox Patriarch Look to New Council at Nicea
Catholic Culture ^ | 5/30/14

Posted on 05/30/2014 8:31:28 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Both Churches have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them. It was sinful human pride that drove the two apart.


61 posted on 05/31/2014 2:41:46 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

So what “church” were you referring to? Can you not come out and specify it?


62 posted on 05/31/2014 2:47:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl
Both Churches have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them.

So does Satanism and Islam have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them. What's your point?

63 posted on 05/31/2014 2:50:19 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

You just do not get it. Now on mental ignore because you simply want to pick an agument you cannot win.


64 posted on 05/31/2014 3:09:04 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide

Click and goodbye.


65 posted on 05/31/2014 3:09:56 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Click and Hello. I’m back on. Do you believe in EENS or not? Are you Catholic or not?


66 posted on 05/31/2014 3:19:34 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Biggirl
But the Churches have become even more doctrinally separated over time. There are many, many theological differences that would be as difficult to reconcile as some of the differences we have with Baptists, for example.

Add to that, most of the Orthodox seem to remain quite hostile to reboarding the barque.

67 posted on 05/31/2014 3:30:40 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Biggirl

What happened? You put me on “mental ignore” weeks ago.

Did you have a relapse?


68 posted on 05/31/2014 9:52:36 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
The major theological differences on issues such as the nature of grace and the nature of The Holy Spirit cannot be resolved without absolute, total capitulation by one side or the other.

Not sure that's true as least as the filioque goes. I said earlier in this thread that, traditionally, when the Pope said the Creed in Greek he didn't insert the filioque.

The issue as I've seen it addressed revolves around the ultimate source of the Holy Spirit--and what does "proceed" mean in Greek vs. what does it mean in Latin. In Latin, procedere does not imply "proceed from as an ultimate source." So what we mean in the Latin Church by using the filioque is something akin to what the Greek Fathers said "from the Father through the Son".

Greek, as I understand it, is totally different. There "proceed" means as from an ultimate source, which has driven the objection to the filioque.

Perhaps the two sides could agree on a common definition of the procession of the Holy Spirit that overcomes the linguistic problem and respects the positions we've staked out.

AN ORTHODOX RESPONSE TO THE CLARIFICATION ON THE FILIOQUE

69 posted on 06/01/2014 3:23:22 AM PDT by Claud
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To: marshmallow
OK, this could be the biggest news in Christendom since 1054, and there is currently one googleable news article on this?

Plenty of other "news" in the headlines, though.

We are in a post-Christian age.

70 posted on 06/01/2014 5:06:59 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ebb tide

Rather, the forgiven, healed, and restored Bride of Christ, via His most holy blood shed on the Holy Cross.


71 posted on 06/02/2014 3:55:20 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: marshmallow

John 17, that “that they will be one.”


72 posted on 06/02/2014 3:56:18 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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