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There Is No ‘Third Way’ — Southern Baptists Face a Moment of Decision (and so will you)
AlbertMohler.com ^ | June 2, 2014 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 06/02/2014 6:09:52 AM PDT by Bratch

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To: xzins

Agree 100%. Very well said.


41 posted on 06/02/2014 7:24:52 AM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: MrB

I think...and have discussed this with my wife...that this is the beginning of an outright attempt to outlaw Christianity. I know quite a few FReepers agree.

First, you force denominations to debate and vote on the issue. If they are weak and not standing on Scripture, they fold under the pressure to accept sin. If they are standing on the inerrant Word of God, they will reject sin. At this point those who wish destruction upon the Church bring the secular legal system into play. An attempt (perhaps several attempts) will be made to paint the Christian Church as a ‘band of hateful bigots’ that should not be allowed to continue unless they bow to the “right way to believe”.

I think that within the next 10 years, perhaps less, we may see the Church forced underground. Those who do not accept homosexuality will be persecuted, possibly imprisoned, and perhaps even killed for their beliefs.

If there’s any good to take away from this. it is the fact that in the end, no matter how hard the world (and Satan) fights, God wins. And...so do those who stand firm in their beliefs.

“Even so, come, Lord Jesus.”


42 posted on 06/02/2014 7:25:12 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Yeah, right! He had no clue his son was gay, just announced his change of heart and presto, out of the closet!

Cortez had a difficult choice: to stay true to traditional Christian beliefs, or to stay on good terms with his son. He chose his son. That was his choice. However, he does not have the right to impose his choice on his congregation. He should have stepped down as pastor.

43 posted on 06/02/2014 7:25:56 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: hoagy62

Yep, fully agree that this is what is happening.

When you see these things come to pass, look up, for your redemption is nigh.


44 posted on 06/02/2014 7:26:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins
Great post!
45 posted on 06/02/2014 7:31:10 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I agree

Jimmy Carter. . .now that’s a class act for you :)

“increasingly rigid in theology” If the Bible said it. . .no further questions.

We could have a so called SBC “separation of the sheep and the goats” before the Rapture.


46 posted on 06/02/2014 7:37:21 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: xzins

47 posted on 06/02/2014 7:52:42 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: hoagy62
I think that within the next 10 years, perhaps less, we may see the Church forced underground. Those who do not accept homosexuality will be persecuted, possibly imprisoned, and perhaps even killed for their beliefs.

More and more, I'm coming to agree with you. Up here in the People's Marxist Republic of Illinois, we're now officially cursed with queer marriage.

48 posted on 06/02/2014 8:42:20 AM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Perfect.


49 posted on 06/02/2014 8:52:10 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Bratch

Disgusting apostates.


50 posted on 06/02/2014 8:59:14 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Bratch

Pastor has paradigm shift, son tells him “I’m a homosexual offender”...errr...uh...GAY...yea, that’s the ticket...and a Lifetime Movie hug ensues. Everyone on the Planet of Women rises as one and shouts “hallelujah!”

Meanwhile, a small band of believers quietly think to themselves, “Let God be true and every man a liar.”


51 posted on 06/02/2014 9:01:18 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: apillar

Good point. Doesn’t quite work out, does it? Delusion enables one to MAKE it work somehow, though.


52 posted on 06/02/2014 9:08:32 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You know the narrative wordage is interesting...like out of some third rate novel...as in “ she looked at me earnestly, her gorgeous blond tresses catching the sunlight and her blue eyes glowing like inner lit aquamarines...and MY HEART SKIPPED A BEAT as she held my hand and softly spoke...”I love you! Now can you pass the horse radish?”

Americans need to get their heads out of their “Utopias happily ever after” narratives, better known as their rear ends!


53 posted on 06/02/2014 9:23:56 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Bratch
It's OK, Al. Chill.

It's all predestined. Nobody has to decide anything.

54 posted on 06/02/2014 9:25:21 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: cloudmountain
Mohler got it right: There is no third way.

This applies to many other issue facing the Church as well.

55 posted on 06/02/2014 9:30:09 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Bratch
This compromised sodomy-affirming "church" will be summarily expelled from the SBC, or this denomination is forever dead to me.

By the way, why the heck is this group having their convention in the heart of Sissy-Mary-Land, one of the capitals of sodomy?

56 posted on 06/02/2014 9:32:11 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Bratch

But where does Cortez stand on allowing women to preach?


57 posted on 06/02/2014 9:32:31 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: xzins
There are no “exceptions” granted in scripture as there are with divorce.

And those exceptions are extremely specific, and not a license.

58 posted on 06/02/2014 9:34:27 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: T-Bird45
I’m gonna hazard a guess here that this “pastor” was not ruminating on the beach without a cause that put the thought in his mind. In this case, the cause was his own child where the father had suspicions and indications that he could not face.

Bingo. Some of the most obnoxious "Christians" I have encountered are the parents of gays who want to change the church to be more "inclusive", as if we were never taught, "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it." (Matt. 7:13-14)

However, IMHO the Protestant churches in the US have (since the so-called Sexual Revolution of the 1960s) fallen down terribly in the duty to teach marriage from the pulpit, to demand marriage classes before marrying people, and to exercise opprobrium when couples living together in sin or parading their relationships before one partner is divorced in front of the children. I have seen all these behaviors ignored or excused, especially when one or both of the "public sinners" is a popular parishioner, a Board member, a missionary or a big donor.

One of the outrages of the Episcopalian's "gay bishop" ordination in 2003 was that at that time, the ECUSA was still inquiring about the sex lives of engaged couples, and made a few of my divorced-but-engaged-again friends step down from official parish posts until the matter was resolved by marriage. The hypocrisy on that end was stunning. But since then, it seems that "anything goes" in many of the formerly mainstream denominations.

The Baptists should defrock this renegade pastor.

59 posted on 06/02/2014 9:41:30 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: The Grammarian
Meanwhile, the Methodists edge nearer to an outright denominational split over this issue and progressive Methodists’ disruptive radicalism, born of their inability to change the church’s teaching on it.

Long overdue.

60 posted on 06/02/2014 9:42:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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