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Your Faith is Now Intrinsically Offensive. Are You Ready for the Fallout?
Juicy Ecumenism ^ | Jim Tonkowich

Posted on 06/02/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by Gamecock

“The world of 1906,” wrote Violet Bonham Carter in her biography of Winston Churchill, “was a stable and a civilized world in which the greatness and authority of Britain and her Empire seemed unassailable and invulnerably secure…. Powerful, prosperous, peace-loving, with the seas all round us and the Royal Navy on the seas, the social, economic, international order seemed to our unseeing eyes as firmly fixed on earth as the signs of the Zodiac in the sky.”

Think of it: living before the devastation and slaughter of World War I, before the rise of Communism and the upheaval of the Russian Revolution, in an age far more innocent than our own. The prosperity and stability of the British Empire in the Victorian Era would, people thought, only grow stronger with a new king, in a new century, enlightened by the bright beams of progress.

Of course, not everyone was fooled.

In 1907, Monsignor Robert Hugh Benson, reading the signs most people didn’t noticed, published his dystopian End Times novel, Lord of the World. Set in the early twenty-first century, Benson foresaw a time when busy workers “had learned at least the primary lessons of the gospel that there was no God but man, no priest but the politician, no prophet but the schoolmaster.” He envisioned a world in which Christianity had all but vanished with little hope of resurgence, a world where the marginalization of Christians morphed into persecution and finally genocide.

In the novel, an elderly statesman explains the situation to an young priest: “First, you see, there was Materialism, pure and simple that failed more or less—it was too crude—until psychology came to the rescue. Now psychology claims all the rest of the ground; and the supernatural sense seems accounted for. That’s the claim. No, father, we are losing; and we shall go on losing, and I think we must ever be ready for a catastrophe at any moment.”

Lord of the World came to mind (mine and others) last Tuesday after hearing Princeton University’s McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence, Dr. Robert George at the tenth annual National Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC.

“My message for you today is a somber one,” he began. “The days of acceptable Christianity are over. The days of comfortable Catholicism are past. It’s no longer easy to be a faithful Christian, a good Catholic, a faithful witness to the truths of the Gospel.”

Comparing our era to the events of Jesus’ Passion, he noted, “Things were easy in those Palm Sunday days, standing with Jesus and his truths was the in thing to do, to be part of the crowd, waving the palm branches, shouting ‘Hosanna!’” But Palm Sunday has passed; Good Friday looms with the crowds beginning to cry for crucifixion.

On Good Friday, he said, most of the disciples fled in fear and shame. Only the beloved apostle, John, and Mary, his mother, stayed with Jesus as he hung on the cross. George challenged each of us to decide whether or not to stay with them. “The question each of us must face is this: am I ashamed of the Gospel? And that question opens to others: am I willing to pay the price that will be demanded if I refuse to be ashamed? Am I willing to give public witness to the massively politically incorrect truths of the gospel?”

Standing for biblical teaching—specifically teaching about sexuality, marriage, and life—is no longer acceptable as Brendan Eich who lost his job as president of Mozilla, David and Jason Bentham who lost their show on HGTV, and others have discovered.

“They threaten us with consequences if we refuse to call what is good, evil, and what is evil, good,” said George, “They demand [we] conform our thinking to their orthodoxy, or else say nothing at all.” Break their rules and, like the beleaguered Christians in Benson’s novel, we could pay a steep price in our careers, our social standing, our friendships, our fortunes, and our futures.

Nonetheless, as Msgr. Benson knew and as Dr. George reminded the crowd, the story doesn’t end on the Cross. “We would much rather be acceptable Christians, comfortable Catholics. But our trust in Jesus, our hope in his resurrection, our faith in the sovereignty of His heavenly Father, can conquer fear. By the grace of almighty God, Easter is indeed coming.”

In 1907, many thought Benson’s novel too negative and pessimistic and, no doubt, many still do. In 2014, many think George’s address too negative and pessimistic. Perhaps they are, but I doubt it.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: christianity

1 posted on 06/02/2014 8:10:39 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

The left is actively working to eliminate Christianity and Judaism.


2 posted on 06/02/2014 8:11:33 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Gamecock
In 1907, Monsignor Robert Hugh Benson, reading the signs most people didn’t noticed, published his dystopian End Times novel, Lord of the World. Set in the early twenty-first century, Benson foresaw a time when busy workers “had learned at least the primary lessons of the gospel that there was no God but man, no priest but the politician, no prophet but the schoolmaster.” He envisioned a world in which Christianity had all but vanished with little hope of resurgence, a world where the marginalization of Christians morphed into persecution and finally genocide.

In the novel, an elderly statesman explains the situation to an young priest: “First, you see, there was Materialism, pure and simple that failed more or less—it was too crude—until psychology came to the rescue. Now psychology claims all the rest of the ground; and the supernatural sense seems accounted for. That’s the claim. No, father, we are losing; and we shall go on losing, and I think we must ever be ready for a catastrophe at any moment.”

Lord of the World came to mind (mine and others) last Tuesday after hearing Princeton University’s McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence, Dr. Robert George at the tenth annual National Catholic Prayer Breakfast in Washington, DC. “My message for you today is a somber one,” he began. “The days of acceptable Christianity are over. The days of comfortable Catholicism are past. It’s no longer easy to be a faithful Christian, a good Catholic, a faithful witness to the truths of the Gospel.”

PFL

3 posted on 06/02/2014 8:16:50 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: I want the USA back

Islam is far more conservative and they would have to eliminate it also.


4 posted on 06/02/2014 8:16:52 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: I want the USA back

Yes, they actively seek to replace the very foundations of “God created” with the godlessness of evolution.


5 posted on 06/02/2014 8:17:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Gamecock
It’s no longer easy to be a faithful Christian, a good Catholic, a faithful witness to the truths of the Gospel.”

It was never "easy" - but it was not always militantly opposed by the powers of this world.

6 posted on 06/02/2014 8:21:20 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Islam is far more conservative and they would have to eliminate it also.

Good luck with that.

7 posted on 06/02/2014 8:23:04 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Gamecock

My skin color and gender were deemed intrinsically offensive years ago - what’s one more thing? :)


8 posted on 06/02/2014 8:26:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: I want the USA back
The Bad News:

"...our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms". (Ephesians 6:12)

The Good News:

"What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?" (Romans 8:31)

9 posted on 06/02/2014 8:36:22 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: I want the USA back

And the left is very much working to take God out of the hearts and minds of the people, and replace Him with Government.


10 posted on 06/02/2014 8:36:24 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Gamecock

None of us crave persecution, but I do believe we Christians thrive in God under it. Opposition enlivens me, but when left alone and rejected by standing for the Gospel there is a temptation to self-question. Am I being “judgmental”, “rude”, “arrogant”, “nosy”, etc.? These and others are the accusations. Sometimes they come from other believers.

I know many do not believe in “private faith”, but if we take this piece seriously we’d all BETTER have a private faith that is real as we will likely lose a lot of the people we’ve called friends/family. But we’re never in a bogus type of private faith if we’re born of God through Christ.

I think of the “others” in Hebrews, mentioned at the end of the “hall of faith”. They were cast-outs, alone, martyred...”of whom the world was not worthy”.

But they were worthy in the Father’s sight.


11 posted on 06/02/2014 8:47:45 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Islam is far more conservative and they would have to eliminate it also.”

I don’t see that happening. If anything today’s socialists seem as eager to ally themselves with Islamicists as Hitler was.

Unlike Christianity Islam fits quite comfortably into a controlling totalitarian state


12 posted on 06/02/2014 8:59:20 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: I want the USA back

Eliminate - eventually...

What they seek now is criminalization. They want to see the State PUNISH Christians.


13 posted on 06/02/2014 9:01:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

They won’t target Islam, because the surface issues they use (”gay rights”) are not the real issue.

The real issue/goal is the criminalization of Christianity.
They won’t address Islam until after this goal is fully implemented. At that point, they’ll probably abandon the gays as no longer useful and embrace Islam.


14 posted on 06/02/2014 9:03:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Islam is not conservative in the sense of an American conservatives. It's a totalitarian religion, submission is the great virtue, not freedom.

If you want to rule the world, converting everybody to Islam might be a good first step, as it allows for a single rule and single ruler to rule over all.

15 posted on 06/02/2014 9:03:47 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Gamecock

In my estimation the persecution of both Catholics and Christians is coming. Expect to see it.


16 posted on 06/02/2014 9:50:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yes, it will happen, you know what, that will bring in NEW BELIEVERS in no time flat.


17 posted on 06/02/2014 9:57:17 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Of course.

It doesn’t matter to Satan which one of his demons wins their internal struggle for power. Frankly, though, I would bet on Allah. There are a lot more muzzies than liberals.


18 posted on 06/02/2014 10:05:55 AM PDT by chesley
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To: Gamecock
Years ago a friend loaned me a copy of that book. I had almost forgotten it. However, as I recall it, it's now quite prophetic. Maybe it's time to get another copy and re-read it.
19 posted on 06/02/2014 10:13:09 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Gamecock
I just looked at Amazon. Right now it's free for Kindle.
20 posted on 06/02/2014 10:15:12 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Gamecock

For those of us who aren’t obsessed with money it won’t be much of a challenge, but the suburbs and white collar work, the corporate offices are filled with the weak and those desperate to never rock the boat, to get along to get ahead, they will have a difficult time, but most of them just roll over and adapt to the new rules of the work place they choose to remain in.


21 posted on 06/02/2014 10:24:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Gamecock; All
Great post. But I believe we will have war on our soil before it gets worse for perscution in this country. We will be worried about survival for us who are unlucky to survive.

Any president who thinks he can boycott a nuclear nation like it is a little country in the Middle East like Russia is wrong. The Russians will believe it is an act of war soon. They will believe they are up against the wall. I believe they know our codes on war ships. I Have been reading how a Russian and Chinese have out maneuvered our ships. Also that Russia sub surfacing next to our ship without our knowledge is very upsetting. I do not believe it is a fluke. It is like the reverse of USA knowing Japanese codes during World War Two. I read about last year.

We have a naive administration. I believe there is judgment against this nation already in the works. I hardly have dreams only a rare few in a year but when I do they are significant. In May I had two dreams. The last one was men in a conference room talking about "it is done ... Over." Like too late it seemed. Then one man stood up who then said then " I am leaving." He did not see the reason for staying if over. He was walking out so I agreed with him in this dream then followed . We walked out of what seemed to be a bunker structure in a mountain area. We walked into daylight to our cars.. I stopped ... he stopped . He was like were can we go anyway. We hear a rumble sound in the distance. We look there is smoke cloud just past the next two mountains. The smoke cloud slowly but surely forming the classic mushroom look with far off distant sounds. It was then that sirens went on with that familiar sound. I then woke up in the morning. I hope this is not true. The mountain area looked like the Virginia mountains. I have driven through them several of times going to Georgia.

22 posted on 06/02/2014 10:25:48 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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23 posted on 06/02/2014 10:31:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: johngrace; Gamecock

I read this book.

BTW, this book was written in 1881; you wouldn't believe how accurate it is!

 

Reading this book was one of the greatest graces of my life!"
— St. Thérèse of Lisieux

In the late nineteenth century, Father Charles Arminjon, a priest from the mountains of southeastern France, assembled his flock in the town cathedral to preach a series of conferences to help them turn their thoughts away from this life’s mean material affairs—and toward the next life’s glorious spiritual reward. His wise and uncompromising words deepened in them the spirit of recollection that all Christians must have: the abiding conviction that heavenly aims, not temporal enthusiasms, must guide everything we think, say, and do.

When Father Arminjon’s conferences were later published in a book, many others were able to reap the same benefit—including fourteen-year-old Thérèse Martin, then on the cusp of entering the Carmelite convent in Lisieux. Reading it, she says, “plunged my soul into a happiness not of this earth.” Young Thérèse, filled with a sense of “what God reserves for those who love him, and seeing that the eternal rewards had no proportion to the light sacrifices of life,” copied out numerous passages and memorized them, “repeating unceasingly the words of love burning in my heart.”

Now the very book that so inspired the Little Flower is available for the first time in English.

Let the pages of The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life fill you with the same burning words of love, with the same ardent desire to know God above all created things, that St. Thérèse gained from them. Let them also enrich your understanding of certain teachings of the Faith that can often seem so mysterious, even frightening:

  • The signs that will precede the world’s end
  • The coming of the Antichrist, and how to recognize him
  • The Judgment and where it may send us: heaven, hell, and purgatory
  • Biblical end-times prophecy: how to read it and not be deceived

Jesus commands us to be ever-watchful for his return, and ever-mindful that we have no lasting city on earth. The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life is an invaluable aid to inculcating in your spirit that heavenly orientation, without which true human happiness cannot be found—in this world or the next.


24 posted on 06/02/2014 10:34:34 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: slowhandluke

If you want to rule the world, secular humanism, the kind that america represents, is the ultimate weapon of mass destruction...

Maybe the freedom and liberty that america spreads is different than the freedom and liberty the Savior of the world provides...

Maybe this is why people feel persecuted... maybe Our Heavenly Father has used His enemies and continues to, like He did when Israel went a whorring....


25 posted on 06/02/2014 10:36:04 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: johngrace

More likely it will be a revolt in this country and not any invasion from another country.


26 posted on 06/02/2014 11:06:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Gamecock

I’ve been a non conformist my whole life. I will stick with God’s word, even if it means death. I will not risk my gift of salvation by turning away from it, or accepting some mark. I know many here will do the same.


27 posted on 06/02/2014 1:33:49 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Biggirl

God help us. I am saying my prayers. Crazy times.


28 posted on 06/02/2014 7:25:59 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Salvation

I read it too.


29 posted on 06/02/2014 7:31:59 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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