Skip to comments.Different faiths, same witness: How Vatican explains prayers for peace
Posted on 06/05/2014 3:58:45 PM PDT by NYer
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Popes pray for peace; it is part of their ministry. And when war is raging or peace negotiations seem hopelessly bogged down, recent popes have invited leaders of other Christian traditions and other faiths to join them in prayer.
Pope Francis has put a twist on the interreligious prayer gathering by inviting political leaders, Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, "to come to the Vatican to pray together with me for peace." The event was scheduled for June 8, the day many Christians celebrate Pentecost.
Pope Francis embraces Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the start of an arrival ceremony at the presidential palace in Bethlehem, West Bank, May 25. (CNS/Paul Haring)
Pope Benedict XVI and Mustafa Cagrici, the grand mufti of Istanbul, pray silently in the Blue Mosque in Istanbul in this 2006 file photo. (CNS file/pool via Reuters)
This is "we are the world" ecumenical trash which, as the text even lets on itself, makes all religions equal under the same God "who created them." This is exactly the sin we must be avoiding, this "equality" of all religions under "one God," when they do not worship God, but idols.
This was one of the things that ticked me off so bad about the Republican National Convention. They had Mormons on stage leading prayers, making their religion equal with Christianity, and this Pope is no different in his guilt.
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"(2Co 6:14-15)
"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."(2Jn 1:10-11)
1Co 16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.
Funny...never saw Peter, Paul, James or any of the other apostles praying in the roman temples.
What would Pope Urban II do?
IMHO, Catholics, orthodox. Jews, Lutherans, Calvinists, Unitarians largely anyway, baptists, Methodists, Copts, Adventists and many more denominations all pray to the over true (biblical) God. We have a thousand differences but we pray to the right guy. I have no problems sharing a prayer with almost any of these believers, and yes- I can then debate our differences with just as much vigor as before. Call me ecumenical if you wish, even call me mistaken. But there it is. I cannot however share a prayer session with someone who believes in a book that instructs him to kill or subjugate us. I cannot pray with someone whose “god” seeks our death and destruction. Your Holiness, please read that book before you Invite or befriend any more of its adherents. I respectfully submit that such gestures mislead the faithful into thinking that there’s no significant difference between God and Satan.
Modernist and ecumenical trash indeed.
I don’t think Unitarians belong on that list.
Thanks. You’ll notice I qualified that orb a bit. Some uua’s believe in the biblical true God, some don’t. This may reflect the two different major paths that led to today’s combined Unitarian Universalist Association However that may be, I do agree with you that at least some of them probably aren’t best included. Thanks! Ps: ( at least they don’t preach to kill us , though!)
they do have that going for them. heh
Either interreligous group prayer is right or it is wrong. It can't be "necessarily exceptional and infrequent".
PRAYER WITH NON-CATHOLICS FORBIDDEN
Are heretics and schismatics excommunicated? Yes; they have no part in the Communion of the Saints. Catechism of the Summa
If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting-houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion. If any bishop or priest or deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from communion. II Council of Constantinople
That Christians and ecclesiastics should pray for Christian unity under the direction of heretics and, what is worse, according to an intention which is radically impregnated and vitiated with heresy, is absolutely impossible to tolerate! Ven. Pope Pius XI
One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated. Council of Carthage
No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics. Council of Laodicea
Oh, you and your pre-Vatican II Church teaching!!
Yes that’s a plus compared with the “ religion of peace” ( boy if there was ever a case for False Advertising, there it is!!! ). Have a happy day, I need to check outta here fir awhile, best, fhc
How is it possible to square praying to false gods or encouraging others to pray to false gods with the First Commandment? To consider prayer to false gods a "weapon" is seriously irrational.
When Padre Pio felt the need of a weapon, he called for his Rosary.
Or witch doctors or animists or Buddhists, etc. (who were all invited to pray for peace to their false gods at Assisi).
Muslims and Jews reject Christ, yet the Vicar of Christ invites them to pray with him. Are we to believe that after the prohibitions declared by previous Councils and Popes, the Holy Ghost has now changed His mind regarding the error of this type of religious co-mingling?
Would be elected to the Chair of Peter by his peers prior to the "New Pentecost"?
"...they have misled my people, saying, Peace, when there is no peace..."
-- Ezekiel 13:10a
Is that Francis? Looks like an abominable Charismatic meeting. He’s getting hands laid on him by those weirdos?
No, this was the recent “Catholic” Charismatic meeting Francis attended and got prayed over:
But, yes, that is Francis getting blessings from Protestant ministers.
More Modernist double-speak. They perfected that in the Vatican II documents. It's Clintonianism at its best: it depends what the definition of "is" is.
I am so sick at this point at what the Vatican II Church has become.
A priest who submits to this type of “blessing” is exhibiting the fruits of Diabolical Disorientation. The positions of the participants are inverse to their proper orientation.
The Beautiful Hands of a Priest.
We need them in life’s early morning,
We need them again at its close;
We feel their warm clasp of true friendship,
We seek it while tasting life’s woes.
When we come to this world we are sinful,
The greatest as well as the least.
And the hands that make us pure as angels
Are the beautiful hands of a priest.
At the altar each day we behold them,
And the hands of a king on his throne
Are not equal to them in their greatness
Their dignity stands alone.
For there in the stillness of morning
Ere the sun has emerged from the east,
There God rests between the pure fingers
Of the beautiful hands of a priest.
When we are tempted and wander
To pathways of shame and sin
‘Tis the hand of a priest that absolve us.
Not once but again and again.
And when we are taking life’s partner
Other hands may prepare us a feast
But the hands that will bless and unite us,
Are the beautiful hands of a priest.
God bless them and keep them all holy,
For the Host which their fingers caress,
What can a poor sinner do better
Than to ask Him who chose them to bless
When the death dews on our lids are falling,
May our courage and strength be increased
By seeing raised o’er us in blessing
The beautiful hands of a priest.
Did you see this version? Goofy, frenetic, aerobic “dancing” and kindergarten style music. Pope Francis sitting there looking on approvingly.
The photo was taken when he was still Archbishop Bergoglio.
Does that make a difference?
>>If any bishop or priest or deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from communion. II Council of Constantinople<<
Nobody really talks about the Holy Ghost, and the sins that offend Him, anymore.
Rather they seem focused on some imaginary Spirit of VCII.
“I am so sick at this point at what the Vatican II Church has become.”
I was just clarifying that the photo was taken before he became Pope.
Did you read Post 16? No clarification was necessary.
All we need is a lavender colored one to make it complete.