Skip to comments.Pope: Half-hearted Catholics aren't really Catholics at all
Posted on 06/06/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by NYer
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Those who insist others pray and believe exactly like they do, those who have alternatives to every church teaching and benefactors who use the church as a cover for business connections may call themselves Catholics, but they have one foot out the door, Pope Francis said.
"Many people say they belong to the church," but in reality have "only one foot inside," the pope said June 5 at the morning Mass in the chapel of his residence.
The Church isn’t a rental unit... it’s a home .... Ping!
But half-hearted Protestants are still Protestants ...
That group thinks that their critics are excessively and invalidly "rigid." Anybody know where I can find the Pope's complete remarks?
I'm not sure who has made that contention here.
The Pope just described Cardinals Kasper and Maradiaga, two of his top henchmen, to a "T".
Why doesn't he get rid of them?
I have heard over the years from some fellow Catholics stuff like...
If you don’t attend Mass said in Latin, it’s not a legitimate Mass....
Or...here’s another one...if receive Holy Communion in your hand (as opposed to the tongue) you’re not really a Catholic.
Then there are some scriptural and theological differences as well. I know some Catholics who believe that Mary was ALWAYS a virgin, even though the Bible clearly states that she was married to Joseph and that Jesus had brothers and sisters.
“But half-hearted Protestants are still Protestants ...”
What does that have to do with Francis’ statement?
As soon as the Catholic church kicks out apostates like Nancy Pelosi, you can start throwing stones at others. Until then, STFU.
lol ... i forgot the sarcasm tag ...
How else can we explain the Kennedy's multiple annulments, Pelosi and the other faux catholics receiving the sacrements and all the infiltration by homosexuals and communists.
You nailed it!
I actually was unfortunate enough to have sat through a mass where the priest (a visiting priest) basically told everyone there that day back in 2008 that “social justice” trumped “sanctity of life.”
I sat through that mass — But the next time it came up myself and two dozen other parishioners actually got up and left — Along with our check books.
Two things happened after that, that priest was never invited back and collection basket donations went way down until they started talking about protecting the truly vulnerable and innocent amongst us was far more important than social justice. We will only see how long that lasts.
The following is from the Vatican News Service and is as close as you can come since his homilies are all in Italian.
2014-06-05 LOsservatore Romano
Uniformists, alternativists and advantagists are three buzz words that Pope Francis coined [in Italian] martyring the Italian language a bit as he himself admitted in order to describe the 3 types of Christians who create divisions in the Church. The Pope spoke of this in his homily during Holy Mass on Thursday, 5 June, wherein he also reflected upon the days reading from the Gospel of John (17:20-26).
With the Gospel as his starting point, the Holy Father paused on the image of Jesus in prayer: he prays for his disciples; he prays for all those who will be coming, coming to hear the preaching of the Apostles; he prays for the Church. And what does the Lord ask of the Father?, the Pope asked himself. The response was, the unity of the Church. That the Church may be one, that there be no divisions, that there be no battles. For this, he remarked, the Lords prayer is essential, because [creating] unity in the Church isnt easy . He then referred to the many who claim to be in the Church, but have only one foot inside, while the rest remains outside.
For these folks explained Pope Francis the Church isnt really their home. This means those people who live like renters a little here, a little there. Actually there are some groups who rent the Church, but dont consider her their home.
Among them, the Bishop of Rome identified 3 precise categories, starting with those who want everyone to be equals in the Church: the uniformists, whose manner is to uniformize everything: everyone as equals. These people have been present from the very beginning, that is, from when the Holy Spirit willed that the pagans be allowed to enter the Church, recalled the Pope, referring to the many who demanded that pagans become Hebrews before they could join the Church. This shows that uniformity goes hand in hand with rigidity; and it was not without reason that Pope Francis described these Christians as rigid, because they dont have the freedom that the Holy Spirit bestows. And they confuse what Jesus preached in the Gospel [with] their doctrine of equality, although Jesus never wanted his Church to be rigid. Therefore, because of their attitude, they dont enter the Church. They call themselves Christians, they call themselves Catholics, but their rigid attitude distances them from the Church.
Regarding the second group, the alternativists, the Pope categorized them among those who think, Ill enter the Church, but with this idea, with this ideology. They propose conditions and their membership in the Church is thereby partial. They too have one foot outside the Church; theyre renting the Church but dont really experience it; and they too have been present from the very outset of evangelical preaching, as testified by the agnostics, whom the Apostle John harshly lambasted: We are... yes, yes... we are Catholics, but with these ideas. They seek an alternative, because they dont share the common experience of the Church.
Finally, the third group includes those who look for advantages. They go to Church but for personal advantage, and wind up conducting business in the Church. These are the Swindlers, who have also been around since the very start such as Simon the magician, Anania e Saffira, who took advantage of the Church for their own profit. Modernizing the discourse, Pope Francis denounced those characters of the type often found in community or diocesan parishes, and in religious congregations, disguising themselves as benefactors of the Church. Weve seen many of them, he said, essentially parading about as benefactors and in the end, under the table, running their scams. They too, obviously, dont believe sense the Church as mother.
But Christs message is quite different: to all these types, the Pontiff continued, Jesus says that the Church isnt rigid, its free! In the Church there are many charisms, theres great diversity in people and in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Jesus says: in the Church you must give your heart to the Gospel, to what the Lord has taught, and never have an alternative for yourself! The Lord tells us: if you want to enter the Church, do so for love, to give all, all your heart and not for doing business for your benefit. Indeed, the Church is not a house for rent for all those who want to do as they please; on the contrary, it is a home to live in.
And to those who object that its not easy, to keep both feet in the Church, because there are so many temptations, the Romes bishop recalled that he who creates unity in the Church, unity in the diversity, in the freedom, in the generosity which is the Holy Spirit, whose specific duty is to actually create harmony in the Church. Because unity in the Church is harmony. Everyone he added with a joke were different, were not equal, thank God, otherwise it would be hell! But we are all called to be docile to the Holy Spirit. And this is exactly the virtue that will save us from being rigid, from being alternativists and from being advantagists or swindlers in the Church: docility to the Holy Spirit, he who builds the Church.
And this docility which transforms the Church from a house for rent into a house in which everyone feels at home. Im at home explained the Pope because the Holy Spirit gives me this grace. He then invited the request during mass for the grace of unity in the Church: to be brothers and sisters in unity, feeling right at home. Unity in the diversity of everyone but free diversity, without imposing conditions. May the Lord send us the Holy Spirit was Pope Francis closing invocation and create this harmony in our communities, parishes, dioceses, movements, so that, as said by a father of the Church: The Spirit, he himself is harmony.
Because neither Hebrew nor Aramaic (the language spoken by Christ and his disciples) had a special word meaning "cousin," speakers of those languages could use either the word for "brother" or a circumlocution, such as "the son of my uncle." But circumlocutions are clumsy, so the Jews often used "brother." These brothers are never once called the children of Mary, although Jesus himself is (John 2:1; Acts 1:14).
Mary was and remained a virgin. See the Protoevangelium of James.
As a person who regularly attends Mass in the vernacular, I have no objection to those who attend Mass said in Latin.
As a person who regularly receives Holy Communion in the hand, I have no objection to those who receive it on the tongue.
By this logic we could claim that Aaron was not really Moses’s brother, he was a cousin. Same with Cain and Abel.