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Islamic prayers to be held at the Vatican
Al Arabyia News ^ | June 6, 2004 | Staff writer

Posted on 06/06/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by ebb tide

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

Abbas, Peres, and Francis will be joined by Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious leaders, a statement released by Peres’s spokesperson said, according to the Times of Israel.

Holy See officials on Friday said the evening prayers would be a “pause in politics” and had no political aim other than to rekindle the desire for Israeli-Palestinian peace at the political and popular level, according to the Associated Press.

Low expectations

The Vatican will broadcast a live feed of the event to viewers across the world.

However, expectations for the event should be kept low, according to Rev. Pierbattista Pizzaballa, the custodian of Catholic Church property in the Holy Land.

[No-one should think] “peace will suddenly break out on Monday, or that peace is any closer,” AP reported him as saying.

On Friday, the Pope met with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, and discussed ways of promoting peace and stability in Asia the Vatican said in a statement.


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Judaism; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; islam; israel; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; vatican
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1 posted on 06/06/2014 5:24:13 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Not a good precedent, even if well-meant.


2 posted on 06/06/2014 5:25:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t this equal to a symbolic conquering of the site of the prayers?


3 posted on 06/06/2014 5:26:48 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

yes

some will continue to defend Francis and pretend all is well


4 posted on 06/06/2014 5:30:41 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: ebb tide

“At the Vatican” where? Not in St. Peter’s or another consecrated space, I trust.


5 posted on 06/06/2014 5:31:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ebb tide

This is totally unacceptable.


6 posted on 06/06/2014 5:32:29 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ebb tide

This is opening the door to evil. Or maybe it was always open?


7 posted on 06/06/2014 5:32:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cicero

It doesn’t matter. Wherever a Muslim is allowed to conduct a prayer, the area is considered conquered and must be fought for.

In their minds, Muslims now believe even St. Peter’s seat is theirs for the taking.


8 posted on 06/06/2014 5:33:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: ebb tide

Have been saying...he has dementia....


9 posted on 06/06/2014 5:33:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ebb tide

The Pope Just Invited Islam Into The Vatican, Christians Aghast

According to a recent Times of Israel report, Islamic and Jewish representatives will join Pope Francis for an interfaith event Sunday at the Vatican. Israeli President Shimon Peres confirmed the news following a visit to his country by the Catholic leader last week.

Pope Francis invited representatives of the two faiths – Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas – to the prayer summit, which will focus on peace among the often embattled monotheistic religions.

The leaders will recite applicable passages from their respective holy books.

Peres confirmed the delegation representing Israel will include influential citizens from the Jewish, Muslim, and Druze communities. Abbas will reportedly likewise include Christians in his delegation.

Out of respect for Jewish religious culture, the gathering will not be held in a venue dedicated to prayer but in an unadorned garden at the Vatican. Viewers around the world will be able to witness the interfaith event via a live broadcast.

Marking the first time Islamic prayer will be held at the Catholic palace, many question the propriety of hosting leaders of a faith that teaches the conversion or slaughter of nonbelievers.

A sense of disbelief was evident in a series of Twitter posts Friday afternoon:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/pope-francis-host-islamic-prayer-vatican/


10 posted on 06/06/2014 5:34:45 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

Ok, one thing in this confused world that I DO NOT GET is how the same college of cardinals that gave us Benedict have give us this crazy man.

I’m done with Pope Francis.

FLAME AWAY!


11 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:09 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ebb tide
Could give the muslims the opportunity to claim the Vatican for islam.
12 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:14 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Sacajaweau

This is NUTS!!!


13 posted on 06/06/2014 5:35:30 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t it wonderful that we’re all getting along now?


14 posted on 06/06/2014 5:36:27 PM PDT by moovova
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To: ebb tide

The Pope is not a leader, he only mirrors most of the rest of Catholicism.


15 posted on 06/06/2014 5:36:33 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: ebb tide

Let’s see how receptive Francis and his enablers are to Islam when its adherents spill blood in the Vatican. At the very least, expect Abbas and his escorts to carefully monitor the ventilation system.


16 posted on 06/06/2014 5:38:03 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: ebb tide

Yuck! His Holiness should read the Koran all about subjugation g or killing Christians , Jews, other innocent people. Respectfully, this is ungood. There is nothing equivalent or holy at all about Islam in particular. It is uniquely hostile to us and just about everyone else on rock Three. The Church should not be seen as affording it any legitimacy or respect. A Confusing signal to the Christian faithful.


17 posted on 06/06/2014 5:39:16 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: ebb tide

This will of course be reciprocated with the Holy Father reciting the Lord’s Prayer from atop the Kaba in Mecca....NOT!


18 posted on 06/06/2014 5:39:36 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Cicero

It’s why it should have been alarming when Bergdahl’s father gave that Islamic prayer at the White House. He, symbolically, gave the entire United States to the Muslims and it’s what they will eventually get around to fighting for.


19 posted on 06/06/2014 5:41:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: ebb tide; 444Flyer; Diana in Wisconsin; svcw; Esther Ruth; GiovannaNicoletta; Diogenesis; ...

~~~For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.~~~

As expected.


20 posted on 06/06/2014 5:43:28 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: jtal

yep


21 posted on 06/06/2014 5:44:01 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: ebb tide

So, when will Christians and Jews be saying prayers and reading from their sacred books in Mecca and Medina?


22 posted on 06/06/2014 5:44:05 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; daniel1212

Ping.

Read the comments. There are quite a few Roman Catholics, errr, well… PROTESTING!


23 posted on 06/06/2014 5:44:58 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: ebb tide

According to the Quaran, that consecrated the Vatican to Islam.

Do we have an anti-Pope or just a fool as Pope?


24 posted on 06/06/2014 5:45:29 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: piytar
Do we have an anti-Pope or just a fool as Pope?

Time will tell.

25 posted on 06/06/2014 5:46:57 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: piytar

What we have is the Pope for the ends time, that’s what we got.


26 posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Gamecock
Read the comments. There are quite a few Roman Catholics, errr, well… PROTESTING!

No worries. It's all the fault of the translation and the cherry-picking media. If you read his comments in the original language and in context, it all makes sense.

27 posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:31 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: All

I know that the twitter account has appeared in posts. I looked at Vatican.va for a feedback spot and did not find it.

Anyone?


28 posted on 06/06/2014 5:48:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

One thing that the Roman Empire was always hard at work with: propaganda.


29 posted on 06/06/2014 5:49:26 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: faithhopecharity
A Confusing signal to the Christian faithful.

Just Roman Catholics.
30 posted on 06/06/2014 5:52:52 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ebb tide

When you the Abomination that brings Desolation in the Temple of the Lord, flee.

Doing this makes the church (in muslim eyes) a mosque. Never to go back.

Is the Pope mad, or just evil?


31 posted on 06/06/2014 5:59:12 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ebb tide

Notice it is Peres and NOT Bibi that is present at this unholy event. Peres never hesitates to sell Israel up the river! There will be NO peace until Jesus comes.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 5:59:33 PM PDT by getarope (Jesus is coming soon, and boy is he PISSED!)
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To: Resettozero

This shouldn’t be surprising to anybody who has done a good study on Biblical Eschatology.

In the last days, you will only be dependent on your relationship with God. All those institutions that you could once rely on for support for your faith will have turned away from God and will be used against the faithful and that includes the RC church.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 6:01:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: redgolum

The Pope is a liberal. Liberals across the world have long worked to rule.

I have long believed that all the things we see are designed to disspirit us all to the point of saying to hell with everything and just letting them win.

I say this with total honesty. It will not surprise me if this idiot comes out and accepts homosexuals openly, accepts abortion, accepts euthanasia and then tells the world that Jesus was just a metaphor.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 6:09:38 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: F15Eagle

I think that is a bride too far. I try to support the Pope but holding prayers at the Vatican is not going to do anything for the Fakestinian problem.


35 posted on 06/06/2014 6:17:33 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ebb tide

As a Catholic I am outraged!!
Islam is evil and as far as I’m concerned he’s legitimizing it. And broadcast over the world? I’m furious!!


36 posted on 06/06/2014 6:18:10 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ebb tide

Dumb stupid ignorant idea.
When the bearded savages start saying Christian and Jewish prayers, THEN peace may be on the way.
Right now, they are laughing in their dirty beards as the Pope makes a fool of himself.


37 posted on 06/06/2014 6:18:54 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: piytar

**According to the Quaran, that consecrated the Vatican to Islam.**

Anyone have a Koran quote on this?


38 posted on 06/06/2014 6:21:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Bishop Sheen in the fifties did say that Rome and Mecca would be united by their common worship of Mary.


39 posted on 06/06/2014 6:23:48 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"The Pope is a liberal."

Then he is not a Christian.

40 posted on 06/06/2014 6:25:20 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: ebb tide

I just looked at the source of your post. Do you really believe this coming from Arabia?

Of course it would be biased.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 6:25:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Muslim prayers anywhere in the Vatican is just beyond foolish.

Pope Francis must be nuts.


42 posted on 06/06/2014 6:27:17 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: ebb tide

Muslim prayers anywhere in the Vatican is just beyond foolish.

Pope Francis must be nuts.


43 posted on 06/06/2014 6:27:28 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: jocon307

You and me both. Pope Loose Cannon has jumped the shark.

This goes WAAAYYYYY beyond `must make nice with muzzies so maybe they won’t persecute Christians’ rationalizing.

I wonder if His Holiness is aware of muzzies’ “once we pray in it, we own it” teaching?


44 posted on 06/06/2014 6:28:35 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ebb tide

Lord, I miss the last pope.


45 posted on 06/06/2014 6:28:58 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Jonty30

“In the last days, you will be dependent solely on your relationship with God.”

Agreed. Got my Bible in one hand & my .45 in the other. Some teach that if you wish to speak to God you have to go through the operator.

I believe in dialing direct.


46 posted on 06/06/2014 6:32:54 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ebb tide

When I was Democrat in my 20’s and a Christian without very much knowledge of the Lord (so that I lived as a lesbian) I thought “peace in the Middle East” was possible by human peace-making. Then I read all of God’s Word (and believed it) and came to know that it isn’t. And I know not to pray with unbelievers. I’m not surprised at this point, though, that the Pope would. I believe John Paul II did, too, IIRC.


47 posted on 06/06/2014 6:35:17 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Not a good precedent, even if well-meant.

I would LOVE to see some/any imam in the Vatican. WHAT a crushing blow to Islam.

In the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus, which we visited in the early-mid 1980's, there is a very large and ornate holder, which, it is said, holds the head of St. John the Baptist.

From Google: Sheltered inside the mosque is the small chapel and shrine of John the Baptist (Prophet Yahia to the Muslims) where tradition holds that the head of John the baptist is buried. One legend says that when the church was demolished, his head was found underneath, complete with skin and hair. This head is believed by some to possess magical powers and continues to be the focus of the Mandaeans' annual pilgrimage, when they press their foreheads against the metal grill of the shrine and reportedly experience prophetic visions.

What I saw there was the shrine, a very large, tall, beautiful and ornate holder--of St. John's head--and a circle of a half dozen imams (or so) around the shrine. These holy men PRAY there (changing shifts, of course) 24/7 because the Muslims considered St. John a very holy man.
They have been doing that for centuries.

48 posted on 06/06/2014 6:41:18 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: windsorknot

The last Pope is still around and available.


49 posted on 06/06/2014 6:41:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Salvation

What in the heck is “Arabia”? Are you making stuff up?

Tilting at windmills again.


50 posted on 06/06/2014 6:43:26 PM PDT by ebb tide (Some "catholics" don't even realize they're protestants. They have both feet outside the door.)
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