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Kirsten Powers Gets Its Dangerously Wrong on the Bible and Homosexuality
Christian Post ^ | 06/08/2014 | Michael Brown

Posted on 06/08/2014 1:21:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It is wonderful to read the account of Kirsten Powers' conversion from atheism to Christianity. But that doesn't make her into a Bible scholar or theologian, and Powers has made some grave errors in her recent article on Christianity's new look on gays.

She begins by asking the question, "Could there be a future where most American Christians support same-sex relationships?"

The obvious answer is, "Only if these Christians renounce the Word of God and the God of the Word."

But that is not how she answers her question. Instead, she writes, "If so, it will be due to the emergence of conservative Christians who say orthodox believers can support life-long, monogamous gay relationships without undermining their commitment to biblical authority."

This is a truly unfortunate statement, as riddled with self-contradictions as it with theological fallacies.

In short, the only way a professing Christian "can support life-long, monogamous gay relationships" is by ceasing to be a conservative Christian, ceasing to be an orthodox believer, and completely undermining their commitment to biblical authority.

Not surprisingly, Powers leans on the recent work of Matthew Vines (whom she wrongly calls evangelical) and Prof. James Brownson, claiming that both of them "hold a 'high view' of Scripture, meaning it is the final authority on all matters of faith and life."

But that is patently false, since both Vines and Brownson know that the Bible never provides a single positive reference to homosexuality, that the Bible explicitly endorses heterosexual marriage alone, and that every reference to homosexual practice in the Bible is decidedly negative.

How then can they claim that the Bible is the final authority for them in matters of faith and life?

The fact is that they can't. The highest authority for them is personal experience, which is why both Brownson and Vines start their books with their personal stories. In the case of Brownson, it is his own son coming out as gay. In the case of Vines, it is his realization that he was same-sex attracted.

That is the true starting point for both authors; based on which God's Word is now reinterpreted in light of their experience.

This is the guaranteed path to deception.

Powers notes that Brownson says, "The issue of sexual orientation represents new data that the church needs to ask itself, 'Should this change the way we look at this?'"

So, the "new data" that the church now has is the contemporary, post-sexual revolution understanding of "sexual orientation" (a tenuous concept indeed), and based on this, we are now supposed to throw out two-thousand years of biblical interpretation, not a syllable of which is challenged by this "new data."

Clearly, the Bible is not the final authority for Vines and Brownson in matters of faith and life, and that's why almost the vast majority of biblical scholars and theologians who embrace their position are liberal-leaning (or completely liberal) in their theology. In contrast, the vast majority of biblical scholars and theologians who reject their position are strongly conservative in their theology.

Kirsten Powers should step back and ask herself why that is the case.

More importantly, Powers should ask herself if the Jesus whom Vines and Brownson preach is the Jesus of the Bible, the Son of God who looked into the heart and soul of every person He met and, as John 2:25 tells us, knew what was in man.

Gay Christianity tells us that Jesus did not really know what was in people's hearts – He did not really know who they were to the core of their being – because He, like everyone else from Adam and Eve until the last few decades, didn't understand sexual orientation.

Such a proposal is as ridiculous as it is sacrilegious. Jesus didn't know? Seriously?

It's one thing to say that, while on earth, He didn't know the day of His return or, in His humanity, He didn't understand nuclear physics. But that is a far cry from saying that He didn't understand an alleged core component – some would argue a defining component –of a person's very nature.

According to Brownson and Vines, we are to believe that, in contemporary terms, the Son of God didn't understand that some people were "gay." (Some gay theologians allege that Jesus was including homosexuals in his reference to eunuchs who were born that way in Matthew 19, but that's the worst passage for them to cite, since it would mean, in clear context, that they were consigned to lifelong celibacy.)

Unfortunately, Powers, who is not a theologian and doesn't claim to be one, has been misled by recent scholarship that falsely proclaims itself to be conservative and evangelical. And she claims that, "The church has done this before on issues ranging from slavery to the solar system."

In reality, it was through a terrible misuse of the Bible that the African slave trade was sanctioned, which is why Christian leaders like Wilberforce led the way in abolishing it (for a free video lecture on this subject, go here). And when it comes to the solar system, Powers fails to differentiate between science and moral behavior, not to mention recognizing the divine design for men and women.

Powers also noted that the former head of the now-defunct Exodus International "has stated that 99.9 percent of people he has met with same-sex attraction 'have not experienced a change in their orientation,'" but that is a claim that is strenuously denied by countless thousands of ex-gays. (For my article on the collapse of Exodus, go here.)

More importantly, as a reader of my book Can You Be Gay and Christian? stated, while he feels that at the age of 70 he cannot possibly change his sexual orientation – he had been in a committed relationship with another man for 45 years until that man's death, after which he became a Christian – he is convinced that God wants him to change his sexual behavior.

We are called to holiness more than to heterosexuality, and from Genesis to Revelation, from Moses to Jesus to Paul, the consistent witness of Scripture is that holiness can never be found in a homosexual union. No amount of Scripture twisting can make sexual relationships between two men or two women holy in God's sight.

In closing her article, Powers appeals to theologian Lewis Smedes, who "wrote in 1999 that the closest parallel to this debate is the church's former opposition to nearly all remarriage after divorce. Scripture states that remarriage after an unbiblical divorce is adultery. To gain good standing in God's eyes, those who had remarried were told to divorce their new spouses and either remarry the first or remain celibate for the rest of their lives."

This, of course, brought great devastation to many families, causing Christians to ask, in Smedes' words, "Could Jesus actually have meant the church to cast away people?"
Powers then writes, "The answer was no. Perhaps the same question should be asked about gay Christians."

Once again, however, her analogy falls terribly short, since the church has done terrible harm to many families (especially children) by making light of divorce, and gay activists are absolutely right to point out our hypocrisy here.

As I have stated many times before, no-fault, heterosexual divorce in the church has done more to destroy marriage than all gay activists combined. We dare not compound our error by redefining marriage entirely.

Powers also fails to realize that in some circumstances, a biblical case for divorce and remarriage can be made, but under no circumstances can a biblical case for same-sex "marriage" be made.

The ultimate question is whether we will interpret our sexuality through the lens of the Scriptures or whether we will interpret the Scriptures through the lens of our sexuality.
The difference between the two interpretations is as vast as the distance between heaven and hell.

(Kirsten, if you get a chance to read this article, please allow me to send you a free copy of my book. I do hope and pray it will give you a whole new understanding of the issues involved.)

Michael Brown holds a Ph.D. in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures from New York University. He is the author of 25 books, including Can You Be Gay and Christian, and he hosts the nationally syndicated, daily talk radio show, the Line of Fire.


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: cutie; gaymarriage; homosexuality; kirstenpoweras; kirstenpowers

1 posted on 06/08/2014 1:21:53 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What difference does it make....what Powers thinks?


3 posted on 06/08/2014 1:25:42 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee...I wonder if leftists infiltrate the Christian Right to drag it leftward.

Nah...that’s just crazy talk.


4 posted on 06/08/2014 1:25:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: entropy12

The difference — people who are convinced by her deceptive column(s).


5 posted on 06/08/2014 1:26:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I am not trying to start an argument...I just want to know if the New Testament mentions homosexuality anywhere??


6 posted on 06/08/2014 1:27:20 PM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The real believers can’t be dragged anywhere.They know the Truth and are not willing to compromise.


7 posted on 06/08/2014 1:28:44 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: csmusaret

Romans 1:18-32.


8 posted on 06/08/2014 1:33:48 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Farmer Dean

True. but just like we see with the lesser evil supporters in conservatism, Christianity has plenty of ‘lesser evil types preaching it from the pulpit.

And the not so devout think...are TAUGHT to think... it’s the word of God. And that the devoted are just a bitterly clinging minority that don’t ‘understand’.


9 posted on 06/08/2014 1:34:36 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: csmusaret

Romans 1:21-27:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


10 posted on 06/08/2014 1:34:48 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: csmusaret

Nothing to argue;

Romans 1:26-32
1 Corinthians 5:9-13
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:10


11 posted on 06/08/2014 1:36:31 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: SeekAndFind
Kirsten Powers Gets Its Dangerously Wrong

Its what?

12 posted on 06/08/2014 1:37:17 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Norm Lenhart
A lot of folks are going to be shocked when Judgement Day finally arrives.A tiny Church in Appalachia was right all along,while a Mega-Church in California was wrong.Truth is Truth,the important thing is to know the Truth and not dilute it for social reasons.
13 posted on 06/08/2014 1:40:38 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: SeekAndFind

All that’s needed to pacify the liberals insistence on inclusion in the Christian Church is a good once over editing of the Bible’s definition and condemnation of sin.


14 posted on 06/08/2014 1:41:22 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Farmer Dean

I often think back to an old Anthrax song...

God says have a TV show
God says “Baby, do some blow”
God says taxes are a sin
God says pour the money in

It was about Jim and Tammy Faye/Oral Roberts/Swaggart and the 80s televangelist crew.


15 posted on 06/08/2014 1:46:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s an elitist idiot.


16 posted on 06/08/2014 1:48:05 PM PDT by ZULU (Impeach Obama NOW.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those who believe Powers are the part of choir already.
I doubt if she will convert any true Christians to her way of thinking.


17 posted on 06/08/2014 2:23:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: entropy12

She’s a Jane Fonda Christian who hopes to convert real Christians to liberalism.


18 posted on 06/08/2014 2:29:02 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: MRourke85

I have NOT met Kirstin Powers and find her persona that of a snob.

She can string a couple of sentences together, however, and can do it while showing no cleavage or limbs. For that alone I appreciate her. (Shocked FOX hired her for such a breach of their standard hirlings.)

Do you realize how rare it is on news programs to be free from brilliant hair, brilliant lipstick and brilliant apparel (with deep necklines and no bottom dresses). Legs and arms everywhere loving more the camera angle than the subject at hand.

Miss Powers is amusing for what she doen’t know but with her trademark pursed and humorless delivery must hope that alone will compensate and convince.


19 posted on 06/08/2014 2:41:09 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Matthew 6:23 - "...If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"

The problem here is that she thinks she has found Christ, but what she has really found is darkness. She is so confident in her new found faith that she is willing to lecture the rest of us on how we need to change ours... God help her!
20 posted on 06/08/2014 3:58:23 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SeekAndFind
From post:
Powers then writes, "The answer was no. Perhaps the same question should be asked about gay Christians."

The same could be said about any number of sins and many other human transgressions.

Perhaps the same question should be asked about pedophiles or those who practice devil worship. The answer is YES, it is against God's will, His expressed views as to rights vs wrongs and in this case Natural Law prevails as well.

BTW, who is she anyway???

21 posted on 06/08/2014 7:31:07 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom

RE: BTW, who is she anyway?

FROM Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Powers

Kirsten A. Powers is an American political pundit, analyst and on-air personality on the Fox News cable channel. She began her career as a Democratic Party staff assistant with the Clinton-Gore presidential transition team in 1992 followed by an appointment as Deputy Assistant U.S. Trade Representative for Public Affairs in the Clinton administration from 1993-1998.

She subsequently worked in various roles including press secretary, communications consultant and party consultant.She also serves as a columnist to USA Today, Newsweek and The Daily Beast.

Powers wrote a column for The American Prospect and her numerous articles have appeared in USA Today, Elle, the New York Observer, Salon, and the Wall Street Journal. In 2005 journalist Ben Smith wrote that Powers was “emerging as one of the Democratic Party’s national voices.”


22 posted on 06/09/2014 6:50:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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