Skip to comments.Are We Living in the End Times?
Posted on 06/14/2014 4:58:45 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
In the fundamentalist Bible church I attended as a child we would regularly have long sermons about the end times. These were based on an interpretative system of the Bible called Dispensationalism.
The roots of this theology were the idea that history could be broken down into various dispensations or time periods and that God behaved differently and different things happened to the human race in these different dispensations. Part of this teaching was that the rapture would take place in which all the Christian people would be supernaturally whisked up into heaven and the sinners would remain behind. Thus the Left Behind series of books and films.
It's pointless for the world to go on without us.
Would you know it if you saw it?
Yes, it's indisputable. Pentecost proves it.
Acts 2: 14 Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: "Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15 These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning! 16 No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17 " 'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'
Ain’t none of us getting’ outta here alive!
Good description of the last age before the end, the Laodicean Church age described by Jesus to the Apostle John in Revelation 3:14-22. The description also matches end-time or near-end-time signs spoken of in other parts of the Bible.
There is certainly no doubt that the US has seen a dramatic change over the last ten years, and much more so since Obozo came to the throne.
It, in no way, resembles the country of 2008, when I was last there.
I’m going to guess no.
Actually, a whole bunch of us are. If you receive Jesus Christ and hang around long enough, you'll get a free ride to Heaven escorted by the Lord Himself when he comes to take his own.
I wouldn’t presume to know what Christ Himself did not.
>>>We are the most important people who ever lived, so of course the end times would come when we are here. It’s pointless for the world to go on without us.<<<
LOL! You nailed it! Is it possible a more self-centered bunch ever lived than are living today? Instead of being blessed with the John Wayne “I’m going in” types; we are plagued with “Beam me up outta here, Scottie.”
The historically unprecedented, relatively recent development of global communication and travel has made our current situation completely different. Now, we can export Western perversion with ease. If fact we are imposing this decadence on even obscure, remote African nations - at the point of a gun. The old cycle is no longer relevant.
Homosexual “marriage” has never been condoned by any civilization. Marriage has always been been for the survival of the species. Anal sex does not produce children.
“Wars and rumors of wars”
“Great earthquakes in diverse places”
“Men rushing to and fro”
“Knowledge shall be increased”
These Scripture quotes point to the End Times. Should you believe them? This Catholic does!
At least in my church, one of the big marks of the end-times is near universal rebellion to God’s laws. I think we’re close to that now.
I think the Apocalypse will be pretty bad. :)
I suggest we are and I will tell you why.
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Okay...now the reason why this is the "End Times."
Humans are about to be transformed...not just trannies, but chimera and a thousands of different iterations...none of which are mentioned in the Bible. And the Bible leaves nothing out.
We are entering a territory which is beyond Revelation.
Which means that Revelation will come to pass before this next world is formed.
Hang on to your hat.
The manure is hitting the fan.
Oh...and did I mention that nuclear weapons can destroy the world many times over...and there are muslims who would pull that trigger...in the Name of Allah. And the President of the Greatest country in the history of the world is a muslim.
Knowledge shall be increased
That sounds like air travel and the internet.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air;
First, this IS the Second Coming of Christ, which clearly follows the Tribulation, and not an event preceding or interrupting the Tribulation.
Second, it is very public and audible, rather than secret or hidden from those not raptured.
This Evangelical believes them as well.
What I’m saying is that we are in a new paradigm where evil can be globalized as was never possible with earlier ages.
As our Bible study leader said, we are probably closer to the end times now then the beginning after Christ’s death. If God doesn’t end it soon he should apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
This country is loosing all that made it great, we are no longer a blessed country. Just look at our leadership, I don’t see anything better in the future.
Actually, a whole bunch of us are. If you receive Jesus Christ and hang around long enough, you’ll get a free ride to Heaven escorted by the Lord Himself when he comes to take his own.
Enoch already made it.
This topic has nothing to do with conservative politics.
But people have been looking for the signs and finding them for a long time.
My instinct is ‘no,’ we’re not particularly close.
Of course, I don’t know. I will say that in the last 20 years I have seen things I never dreamed would happen and in the last 6 or 7, it has gotten so bad that I don’t think the country can recover.
Same goes for most of Western Civilization.
It sure would not be surprising.
we having been living in the end times since Christ’s, ascension into heaven. The Apostle Paul spoke of the end times. Christ’s return when God has appointed the time of his return. Dispensationalism has been disproven many times over. Scofield Bible is an example of Dispensationalism. The Dispensationalism Theory came into existence in the 1920s.
I think this thing came from anal sex:
A pre-trib vs. post-trib discussion. Are you up to it? Am I up to it?
Dunno. I'm ready to relax on a Saturday night with a glass of merlot.
Do I dare say anything? I think if I knew there was a listening ear on the other end, regardless of pre-formed opinions, I might enter in. I only want to do this kind of stuff if I feel like I've really helped someone.
When Paul wrote to the Thessalonians, who were obviously interested and concerned and not quite sure of the end times, Paul's main theme to them was that of comfort and reassurance. Among other things, he said, "For God hath not appointed us to wrath" (1 Thess 5:9). Whatever else the seven-year period of the Tribulation (the "beginning of sorrows" Matt 24:8) and the Great Tribulation ("the end" Matt 24:14) is, it is a time of "the wrath of the Lamb" (Rev 6:16) and "the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture" (Rev 14:10).
If you have questions about reconciling that with the Lord's return, I can help if you want.
Dang, man, got that right.
No we are not currently living in “end times.” However, the conditions are falling into place. We are moving towards the end. Do not confuse a dying Western Civilization with a dying world.
Matthew 24:37-42, As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of man.
Then two men will be in the field; one is taken and one is left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one is taken and one is left. Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.
Christ seems to be referring to the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70, as he warned
this generation will not pass away till all these things take place. Also, notice the people taken away in Noahs time were the unrighteous, not the righteous, which is the opposite of rapture theory.
In Matthew 24:13 Christ promises the one who endures to the end will be saved. This includes Christians who will endure the Tribulation.
That glass of Merlot tastes great on a Saturday night! No sense arguing with the post-trib folks! Either they have really accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, and will be surprised to standing on the Glassy Sea watching Jesus open the First Seal, or they will be left behind so that they can get their wish to experience the Tribulation.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52, Lo! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.
This also refers to the Second Coming of Christ, in that the twinkling of an eye refers to the instantaneous change from a mortal body to a glorified body, NOT to the speed of the rapture. Its connection to the blast of the last trumpet, heralds Christs Second Coming. The Catholic Church has consistently interpreted this passage as such for the last 2000 years.
No “help” needed, Thank You!
These folks were so "lukewarm" about their faith that "Laodicean" became another word for lukewarm.
Regardless of pretrib, posttrib, intrib, outtrib, there is going to be a trib; however, more importantly no one is guaranteed a next breath or a tomorrow. But we are guaranteed an eternity. . .in heaven or hell. . .the destination . . .everyone’s choice.
Have a good evening.
All that evil is the result of Satan's deception, who, by his sorceries, is able to deceive the nations into believing evil is good, and good is evil. Satan's handiwork has been spreading for the better part of a century, turning once Christian and free nations into instruments of tyrannical bondage. First century Jerusalem was in similar bondage, until the Lord appropriately destroyed it, and cast Satan into "prison" for almost twenty centuries. Recall that Jesus explained who the children of Satan were, in his day:
"Ye [Scribes and Pharisees] are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (Jn 8:44 KJV)
Isaiah prophesied of them in a slightly more congenial tone:
"Wherefore hear the word of the Lord, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem. Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it." (Isa 28:14-18 KJV)
And were they ever "trodden down by it." Every building was leveled in Jerusalem--a city of more than a million people; the land was completely destroyed; every tree was cut down for miles around; and even the ground plowed under:
"Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest." (Mic 3:12 KJV)
The hail that "swept away the refuge of lies (e.g., swept away Jerusalem)" was relentless, with each hail stone weighing about a talent, according to Jesus in his Revelation (16:21,) and Flavius Josephus in his historical work, "Wars of the Jews" (book V.6.3):
"And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great." (Revelation 16:21)
The engines, that all the legions had ready prepared for them, were admirably contrived; but still more extraordinary ones belonged to the tenth legion: those that threw darts and those that threw stones were more forcible and larger than the rest, by which they not only repelled the excursions of the Jews, but drove those away that were upon the walls also. Now the stones that were cast were of the weight of a talent, and were carried two furlongs and further. The blow they gave was no way to be sustained, not only by those that stood first in the way, but by those that were beyond them for a great space. [Flavius Josephus, Wars Of The Jews, Book V.6.3]
And what about the covenant with death and agreement with hell? Jesus mentioned the second part here:
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" (Mt 23:33 KJV)
This is what happened to that generation of vipers. First, the justification:
" by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." (Rev 18:23-24 KJV)
And the punishment:
". . . in one hour is she made desolate." (Rev 18:19 KJV)
And what about Satan?
"And [the angel] cast [Satan] into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. (Rev 20:3 KJV)
Is that a coincidence, or what? Jerusalem was destroyed (in part) for deceiving the nations, and Satan was imprisoned for a very long time for . . . (drum roll) . . . deceiving the nations.
Therefore, Satan, the Father of Lies, controlled Jerusalem and the Jews through the deceit of his children: the Jewish leadership.
The release of Satan to deceive the nations occurred about a century ago; which, coincidentally, was about the time of the creation of the Federal Reserve; the enslavement of Russia's Christians by Satan's children, the Bolsheviks; and the rapid dissemination of the doctrine of Dispensationalism via the Scofield Reference Bible.
In your spare time, you might want to reconcile "Behold I come as a thief" (Rev 16:5) (nobody knows when a thief comes) with "For as the lightning comes out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Matt 24:27) (everybody'll see that).
No one knows the time and the hour. Rather than engage in pointless speculation as to when the world will end, live every day as if the end were tomorrow and Christ will take care of the rest.
Right. The end of America may seem like the end of the world, but it’s not.
I don’t think they will be asking questions at that point! The singing will be too loud for that! ;-)
You got that right, Bro.
End Times? One thing is for sure, it is closer than it has ever been ping!!!
SOME REASONS IN AND FOR THE END!
The 1960s brought change. The changes affected education, values, lifestyles, laws, and entertainment. Many of the revolutionary ideas which began in the sixties and are continuing to evolve today. Also many of those running our country today are counted from the Swinging Sixties
More and more women in the 1960s were being educated at
universities and more were beginning careers. Womans protest movements began in the 1960s asking for equal rights for women.
And those equal rights have had abortion as part of those woman’s rights.
Those rights added up from 292 abortions in the United States in 1960 to 1,212,350 in 2008 from stats by Wm. Robert Johnston.1
Ask the aborted if they had equal rights?
As St Paul states: If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13. Love is the answer. Todays families lack love and many of those families are clanging cymbals.
We in Pennsylvania and Mifflin-Juniata Counties are numbered
among the lowest in divorce and abortion. Our families tend to stay together and these families believe Sirac 2-1-16,
How blessed is the husband of a really good wife; the number of his days will be doubled and 16 Like the sun rising over the mountains of the Lord, such is the beauty of a good wife in a well-run house
Men and women not men with men!
They also believe:
Genesis - Chapter 1-27-28
1 -26 God said, ‘Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild animals and all the creatures that creep along the ground.’
1-27 God created man in the image of himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them.
1-28 God blessed them, saying to them, ‘Be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven and all the living creatures that move on earth.’
In the beginning God created heaven and earth. Her children rise up and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her Children can’t when aborted!!
If the current politicos are upset then what must the Black Community be? According to the Guttmacher Institute 69% among blacks abort their babies. The Presidents supported
Planned Parenthoods history has Margaret Sanger saying about her speech to the Klu Klutz Klan: “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.”
(Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)
1) Her other statements include We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The
most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We dont want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
2) Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.
3) Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the
burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing
and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all.
1. Negroes and Southern Europeans are mentally inferior to native born
2. 3. More children from the fit, less from the unfit.
3. 4. apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted tooffspring.
Year 2013 media headlines told the plight of American society today:
In 2012, Los Angeles reported 298 homicides. There are an alarming number of deaths in US jails. Gun rampage in southern Louisiana leaves four dead including shooter.
Newtown shooting report to be released by Connecticut state police. LAX shooting suspect pleads not guilty on 11 counts Colorado student injured in school shooting dies.
Violent crime rises for second consecutive year. Found that 26 of every 1,000 people
No offense taken. Personally I think we are in the end times. If God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for all kinds of evil and wickedness, what does He have in store for us. The decline of Christian morality in Western Civilization is 1000 times worse than the wickedness of Sodom or Gomorrah. We have turned our backs on God and He will not be mocked.
I just wrote the following on another thread about Muslims, the Middle East and Israel, and about is living “at the end” of the “last days” ... at which time Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, returns and goes to WAR. with all who oppose him on earth, and sets up his earthly Kingdom, ruling over all the nations of the world, from Jerusalem. The person I was responding to didn’t seem to think we could possibly know whether we were actually in that time period at which time Jesus returns.
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The bias here is not accepting what God does say about the situation. We are told that Israel will be regathered this one more time, in the land. Israel is in the process right now of regathering in the land, while the Muslims are intent on pushing them out of the land. They see their presence there as a slap in the face to their false god, Allah. It puts the lie to their false religion to have Israel in the land. Of course, thats one purpose of God regathering them back to the land - to put the lie to their false religion.
With Muslims numbers and power in that region and their extreme animosity to Israels existence in this area of overwhelming Muslim population and domination - Israel cannot survive in normal human terms - in the long-range, more than a few decades, if even that long.
The USA has been a protector and backer of Israel being in the land for quite a while now and that balances the power there, against the Muslims. Its clear now that the support for Israel is waning in the USA, overall and politically. You can even see that here on this forum. Those types who want the USA to back out of having Israels back and just let Israel take care of itself, on its own.
It will come to the point where the USA no longer has Israels back, and Israel will not be able to hold off the hoards of Muslims, who are right there in their own lands, surrounding Israel. Israel would be defeated and run off the land, in normal human terms.
HOWEVER, God makes it clear that He will intervene on Israels behalf and that Israel will not be run off another time and regathered back the fifth time around, back to the land or the sixth time around, or some infinite time around. God regathers them back into the land this time and He protects them supernaturally, in a way that no one else or any nation or even themselves can do ... so that the whole world recognizes that it is God and God alone who fights on Israels behalf (and we havent seen that yet).
This intent of the Muslims to rid the land of Israel wont go on for another fifty years or 100 years, thus putting off the hand of God in protecting Israel. Its this very thing of the impending demise of Israel which will drive the people to call out to the Messiah of Israel to save them - and save them He does, just like God says He will.
You are NOW in the time of the end (i.e., that particular time period of the Messiahs second coming) and so ... you should recognize the soon coming of the Messiah of Israel, just like He said the people of his time before, were supposed to have recognized his coming them (almost two thousand years ago). He said they should have recognized the time. You should recognize the time now.
The vast majority of people who are on this earth will be the ones living through this time of His return - whether you or I individually are still here or not (as any individual one of us can die tonight in his or her sleep, or whatever else may happen).
We are told to recognize that time of his coming just like you would read the weather and recognize that a storm is coming (you know that storm isnt a thousand years away, but is right around the corner).
If you live long enough, and you dont get killed in the process of the things to come you will be seeing the return of the Messiah of Israel to this earth!