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Latino Evangelical Churches: A New Reformation?
Church Leaders ^ | Staff Writer

Posted on 06/15/2014 9:09:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry

Time magazine recently wrote a report on the rise of Latino evangelical churches in the U.S., calling their exponential growth "a signal of a new Reformation," even as they seem invisible to mainstream American culture. The report said Latino evangelicals are one of the fastest-growing segments of the churchgoing population, resulting from the conversion of millions of Spanish-speaking Catholics to Protestantism in the past few years.

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Politically, this is a good thing. Protestant Hispanics vote majority conservative, unlike unconverted Hispanics.

For more on the Hispanic Reformation, here is a direct link to the Time Magazine article referenced:

http://nation.time.com/2013/04/04/the-rise-of-evangelicos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+delicious%2Fgqlf+%28Christian+Headlines+Top+Headlines%29#ixzz2PnitlZBd

1 posted on 06/15/2014 9:09:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Working link:

http://nation.time.com/2013/04/04/the-rise-of-evangelicos/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+delicious%2Fgqlf+%28Christian+Headlines+Top+Headlines%29#ixzz2PnitlZBd


2 posted on 06/15/2014 9:13:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Most of the “converts” are probably not converting, but were nominal Catholics. Just as Luther and Calvin were the wake up call resulting in the Counter-revolution, the evangelization of Hispanics (and Africans and Koreans) may be the wake up call to the Catholic Church today. As a Lutheran, I welcome it.


3 posted on 06/15/2014 9:28:42 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: All
They will come home.

Coming Home Network

4 posted on 06/15/2014 9:32:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: chajin

Catholics need to rediscover the Bible.


5 posted on 06/15/2014 9:37:02 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: chajin

Most of the “converts” are probably not converting, but were nominal Catholics.

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Since I work with them, I can tell you that this is very true. I am happy to see that many are becoming serious about God. I have also personally seen many commit and/or re-commit themselves to Christ in their Catholic faith.

Jesus is LORD!


6 posted on 06/15/2014 9:44:51 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The Dreamers® are going to vote conservative too- you’ll see! that’s what they keep telling us! Mars and skyscrapers, here we come!!


7 posted on 06/15/2014 10:11:27 AM PDT by equalator
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To: equalator
The Dreamers® are going to vote conservative too- you’ll see! that’s what they keep telling us! Mars and skyscrapers, here we come!!

Those converted to Iglesia Bautista or at least some variety of fundamental Protestantism are very likely to vote majority conservative. Those remaining in Catholicism will vote for more socialism. This pattern has been borne out repeatedly over decades.

8 posted on 06/15/2014 10:16:09 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Salvation

This is good news for those of us who oppose abortion and gay marriage.


9 posted on 06/15/2014 10:24:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: SumProVita; chajin

Common sense would say that the people joining Evangelical churches are the ones seeking a closer relationship with God, not the indifferent, just casually leaving their family’s Catholic church, to become active Evangelicals.

I haven’t found any data that supports the claim that it is the indifferent Hispanics who are seeking out a more passionate and conservative Christian church.


10 posted on 06/15/2014 10:50:48 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RegulatorCountry

When they become the majority in a few years, let’s just say I’m not real hopeful.


11 posted on 06/15/2014 10:53:58 AM PDT by equalator
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To: RegulatorCountry
This isn't new. I read about the "new Latino Protestantism" years ago. I guess it has to be brought up every now and then.

By the way, traditionally Catholic countries have as many Church-goers, or as few, as any Protestant or non-Christian country.
There will probably be as many fallen-away Protestants as there were fallen-away Catholics.

12 posted on 06/15/2014 11:13:35 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: chajin
Most of the “converts” are probably not converting, but were nominal Catholics. Just as Luther and Calvin were the wake up call resulting in the Counter-revolution, the evangelization of Hispanics (and Africans and Koreans) may be the wake up call to the Catholic Church today. As a Lutheran, I welcome it.

Yes, it's nice and welcoming. And you already know that sooner or later there will be "fallen Lutherans-former Catholics."

Wake up calls for sure.
And all those now-Catholic Tennessee folks will eventually have their own "fallen Catholics."

God will judge us all, each according to His Divine Will. I welcome ALL Christians to the fold of Jesus.

13 posted on 06/15/2014 11:17:17 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

That isn’t the point, this is about help for our conservative, pro-life politics.

We see some hope in diluting the effect of the destruction caused by the mass Catholic immigration we suffer from.


14 posted on 06/15/2014 11:17:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Salvation

“They will come home.”

Far better they should come to Christ for salvation!


15 posted on 06/15/2014 11:24:01 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: ansel12
That isn’t the point, this is about help for our conservative, pro-life politics.
We see some hope in diluting the effect of the destruction caused by the mass Catholic immigration we suffer from.

"mass Catholic immigration"--from where? Mexico? Latin America? As least they are Christian!

Why are Catholics, per se, a cause for your or anyone's "suffering"??

What "destruction" have the immigrant Catholics caused?

"diluting the effect of the destruction"--HOW are we (NOT ME) "diluting" the effect? By badmouthing Catholics?

How have YOU "suffered" from this "mass immigration"??
How are "we suffering" from them? I'm NOT.

Mexicans don't believe in abortion. Most are very conservative. I lived and worked in Mexico City two years. That is what I remember about them.

16 posted on 06/15/2014 11:28:10 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I won’t get into all the pain that I have seen come from mass immigration and what it did to our incomes and jobs and how it destroyed our communities, our culture and our nation, and our future.

I will point out that converting democrat voters to pro-life republican voters is a good thing.

Remember politics? pro-life?, pro-marriage? all those things that we are really at freerepublic to promote and fight for?


17 posted on 06/15/2014 11:36:54 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The conservativism of these people is being diluted as it becomes a "thing" amongst Hispanics to convert to protestantism regardless of political affiliation.

As it stands, Hispanic Protestants are still over 50% democrat/lean democrat, and that number will increase.

18 posted on 06/15/2014 11:39:39 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: ansel12
Some people have been told and shown, repeatedly, that the aliens swarming us come from a country that is 80% baptised Catholic, but of which less than half that 80% identify as actually Catholic.

But some people continue to insist that the socialist wave is Catholic nonetheless, regardless of the proof presented to them to the contrary. Why? I suppose because some people are liars who value their agenda more than the truth.

19 posted on 06/15/2014 11:44:02 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Yep, baptized members of the Catholic church.

That is why they “convert”, they are not becoming members of a church for the first time, they are either leaving the catholic church for no church, or joining another Christian church.

It is ridiculous to pretend that the nations south of the US are not catholic nations and that the immigrants are not overwhelmingly catholic.

Besides, what does that have to do with this great news for our conservative, pro-life politics?

We should be rejoicing.


20 posted on 06/15/2014 11:49:12 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
Baptised (some of them), but not practicing in any way whatsoever. They are no more Catholic than you are.

Furthermore, like I said above Protestant Hispanics, including Evangelicals, still identify over 50% as democrat/lean democrat (ie, much less conservative than white Catholics).

And Protestant Hispanics are what, a fourth of the total Hispanic population? Less than half of a fourth of 14% of the populace is hardly going to make or break conservatism.

I can hardly think of anything less worth rejoicing over.

21 posted on 06/15/2014 11:59:44 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I would like to see all my Spanish-speaking brothers and sisters living joy-filled lives in Jesucristo nuestro Senor. If some do so in Protestant congregations and others as Catholics ... well, everyone has different circumstances in their lives, and you end up where you do.

The important thing is to love God and love your neighbor.


22 posted on 06/15/2014 12:13:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I have a classic sports car.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think we should be glad when anyone comes to a living, vital, real relationship with the Lord Jesus regardless of which church it occurs/-ed in. Hopefully, if the relationship is real, Christ through the Holy Spirit will lead them to where the “Living water” is. I know on fire Roman Catholics and dead Baptists and vis versa. There are enough luke warm so-called nominal Christians in both denominations and we don’t need any more of those. We all know we don’t need more priests molesting little boys and we don’t need any more Westboro Baptist type haters. No perfect church/denomination this side of eternity - sin has marred and scarred us all. Let’s rejoice in what the Lord is doing and where he chooses to bless as we sure need more real disciples. I have differences with the Catholic Church that’s why I’m not Catholic. But I know many Catholics that are sold out for Jesus and I rejoice in that and call them my brothers and sisters.


23 posted on 06/15/2014 12:15:08 PM PDT by Lake Living
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

They are full on Catholics, and many of the ones who want a closer relationship to God, convert to Evangelical christian.

The racial attitude that Hispanics, or that people from catholic nations are no more Catholic than a non-catholic, sounds like true anti-Catholicism or racism, or a rare type of ugly bigotry.

I guess a handful of Catholics that prefer to live in a Protestant country over the Catholic country that borders us might have such views.

The thing that counts for conservatives and pro-lifers is that we see a key to unlocking the left’s grip on the Catholic immigrant’s vote.

This means that the future is not so certain for the left after all.

What kind of pro-lifer would get angry over converting pro-abortion voters to pro-life voters?


24 posted on 06/15/2014 12:23:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Once any believer actually reads The Bible, they discover that Catholicism is utter nonsense and anti-Biblical. Their rejection of Catholicism is painful for them, but opens the door to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and not Mary, the saints, the Pope or any other human being.

I pray that this reformation will spread like wildfire through the Latin world and lessen the slavery and ignorance of Roman control.

25 posted on 06/15/2014 12:30:34 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: ansel12
"They are full on Catholics,"

No, they are not. You can say they are until you are blue in the face, but by their own self-identification they are not Catholics. You have a tendency to trot out this tired racism line, when by their own admission, far less than half of Mexicans are actual Catholics. Hence, they are no more Catholic than you are, who likewise does not identify as Catholic.

America is not a Protestant country by merit its very founding virtues, and sadly its not even a Christian country these days.

And you are assuming these people were all anti-life, then all become pro-life. The fact that over half of them are still democrats doesn't back up your assertion at all.

And again, less than half of 25% of 14% is such a negligable amount of people, even if every single one voted, as to be nearly disregardable.

26 posted on 06/15/2014 12:37:15 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Dr. Thorne
"Once any believer actually reads The Bible, they discover that Catholicism is utter nonsense and anti-Biblical."

LOL. Floater of the day right there.

27 posted on 06/15/2014 12:38:28 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

LOL, Hispanic Catholics are Catholics, and they identify as such, if they aren’t Catholic then they aren’t, and they don’t.

The immigrants from the Catholic nations are overwhelmingly Catholic.

The Catholic ones and the no-religion ones vote pro-abortion democrat, but if they become Evangelicals, they become more conservative and pro-life.

Go pro-life, we see a way to overcome this Catholic immigration that the democrats count on.

Rejoice, good news is good news.


28 posted on 06/15/2014 12:49:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I think you're purposefully missing the point. The Catholics ones are indeed Catholic, but the number of Mexicans, that identify as actual Catholics is less than half of the population.

"but if they become Evangelicals, they become more conservative and pro-life."

Less than half of them.

29 posted on 06/15/2014 1:00:01 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Biggirl

Catholics need to rediscover the Bible. Is this your unique observation, or are you repeating misinformation that is bandied about concerning Catholics?

Just wondering why you think we do not know the Bible? I could just as easily day, “Protestants need to study early Church Fathers more.”

Generalizations do not help anyone to understand what is going on.

My observation of the status of Christianity today in the USA is that most folks want to/should strive to make Jesus their best friend. A minister or priest who is successful in teaching the Gospel with the goal of winning souls for Christ will be successful. It does not matter how much memorization anyone can do with Bible passages - or how many novenas one makes, if the final outcome is a superficial faith. Becoming Christ-like is the epitome of being a good Christian.


30 posted on 06/15/2014 1:01:38 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: ansel12

“We see some hope in diluting the effect of the destruction caused by the mass Catholic immigration we suffer from.”

Are you talking about recent immigration of Latino’s to North America? - or are you referring to 19th century immigration from Catholic Europe into the USA?

The reason I am asking is that you are mistaken about the so-called ‘destruction” of our country from Catholic immigration. I can tell you that one of the reasons that Catholics were so stridently Democratic for 100 years is that when the Irish came to New England, they were met with virulent anti-Catholic bigotry by the upper class of Boston. Since those folks were members of the Republican party, the Democrats took advantage of it and recruited the Catholic vote. “Irish need not apply” was the message received by Irish immigrants from fat-cat Republicans in Boston.

Historically, the immigrant Irish population became overwhelmingly the leaders of the fast-growing Catholic church in America. So, the youth, young priests, etc. were influenced toward favoring Democrats, and that became for many of them as important to them as being a Catholic. But these Catholics never were pro-slavery or for that matter, were not necessarily for large government. They had fled from persecution in Europe. Still, without the wherewithal to become educated, these immigrants ended up becoming public servants, policemen, firemen, etc. That is why there is this history of favoring the Democrats, not because they favor socialism.


31 posted on 06/15/2014 1:17:21 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

No. the majority of Hispanics are Catholics.

The vast majority of Hispanic immigrants arrive as Catholic.

If they become Evangelical they also become more pro-life and politically conservative voters.

Why does that bother you?

People who are pro-life and pro-marriage, and conservative, should be dancing in the streets at this news, it shows a path to reversing the pro-abortion, leftist gains of the democrat party through Catholic immigration.


32 posted on 06/15/2014 1:21:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Gumdrop

The majority of Catholic voters have been, and still are supporters of the democrat party and liberalism.

Big city politics and unionism, and socialism from Europe in the past, abortion and gay marriage big city politics, unionism, and socialism, today.

Nothing changes, the democrats need them.


33 posted on 06/15/2014 1:27:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Gumdrop

I will point something else out.

If conservatism is important to you, shouldn’t you express some relief at learning about some Hispanics becoming Evangelicals?


34 posted on 06/15/2014 1:29:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: cloudmountain

I should have been more specific (that’s what happens when I’m typing on my mobile while watching my daughter get her hair cut :> ): when I said “I welcome it,” the “it” included both the Hispanics becoming evangelicals, and the Catholic Church getting a wake up call.

If it hadn’t been for Luther, the Catholic Church would not have “counter-reformed,” and, among many other things, Francis Xavier wouldn’t have gone to India, China, and Japan, and El Adelantado would not have been so motivated to Catholic-ize the Philippines—which, if memory serves me, was only the second land to be “converted back” from the Muslims, the first being Spain. So as Paul put it in Philippians, however the gospel is preached, and whoever is preaching the gospel, I rejoice, so long as it is the gospel.


35 posted on 06/15/2014 1:44:02 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: ansel12
You are repeating a fable. I've shown you the links in the past repeatedly, I've shown the information, so why do you keep repeating what has been demonstrated to you as untrue?

And once again, only less than half of them become more politically conservative. The only thing that bothers me is your insistence upon repeating falsehoods when confronted with the truth.

36 posted on 06/15/2014 2:31:01 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Lol, no, you haven’t, as we can see on this thread you just post nonsense.

PEW Research:
“Report Summary
Chapter 1: Religion and Demography
More than two-thirds of Hispanics (68%) identify themselves as Roman Catholics. The next largest category,
at 15%, is made up of born-again or evangelical Protestants.”

Now that is after many immigrants converting, and others dropping out of religion entirely.


37 posted on 06/15/2014 2:37:50 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Biggirl; piusv; BlatherNaut; ebb tide; allendale; MWS
Catholics need to rediscover the Bible.

No they don't. Catholics are more into the Bible now than they have ever been in their history . . . and they've never been more irreverent, doubting, and skeptical towards it.

What good does it do to have everyone reading bibles that are annotated with liberal, higher-critical commentaries that insist that the Torah was a late forgery and that Genesis was a rip-off of ancient Babylonian and Canaanite cosmogonical myths? Shoot, apparently (from at least one FReeper) G-d didn't even slay the Egyptian firstborn (that was a "metaphor").

Catholics were better off when they were totally unfamiliar with the Bible but implicitly believed it. In modern Catholicism familiarity has breeded only contempt.

38 posted on 06/15/2014 2:47:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: ansel12
You are the one posting nonsense. Over and over, regardless of information shown to the contrary. A broken clock is right twice a day, but unfortunately for you the same doesn't hold for a broken record.

55% of Hispanics in America identified as Catholic in 2013. The number declines by about 5% per year. Among Mexicans (the main bloc of illegal aliens, and the least conservative), fewer than half identify as actual practicing Catholics.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/07/fewer-hispanics-are-catholic-so-how-can-more-catholics-be-hispanic/

39 posted on 06/15/2014 2:57:14 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
"55% of Hispanics in America identified as Catholic in 2013."
"" far less than half of Mexicans are actual Catholics.""

Huh?

40 posted on 06/15/2014 3:04:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I stand by my position.


41 posted on 06/15/2014 3:14:29 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ansel12
What is there to "huh?" The statement stands for itself. Far fewer than half of the Mexican population identifies as practicing Catholics. As in, fewer than half the Mexican populace say that they attend mass, receive the sacraments, follow the teachings, or do anything that marks them as a Catholic aside from being baptised. And these are old studies in general. If the indicators are anything to go by, the numbers are even less today.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1200688.htm

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20060901122224/http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/print.php?Releases/1997/Dec97/chr121097a

P.S. Do you have links for anything you've said thus far?

42 posted on 06/15/2014 3:16:56 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Mexico is about 84% Catholic, down from about 99% at one time, you are claiming that they come here and start becoming majority Catholics, while not having been Catholic in Mexico?

In America it is hard to keep up with how quickly they are leaving the Catholic church, that is why it is difficult to keep up with their numbers here, but we pro-lifers and political conservatives can rejoice at the fact that some of them are switching to Evangelical churches.

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More importantly, what is the point of your posts, in a thread about Hispanics becoming more religious and more conservative?

"The report said Latino evangelicals are one of the fastest-growing segments of the churchgoing population, resulting from the conversion of millions of Spanish-speaking Catholics to Protestantism in the past few years."

Thank God, we need to convert democrats to becoming pro-life conservatives, it may save our nation.

43 posted on 06/15/2014 3:30:16 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
I never said they are majority Catholics either here or there.

And I will say once again, over half of Protestant Hispanics, including Evangelicals, identify as democrat/lean democrat, so apparently they aren't becoming that much more conservative, are they? And I will also say once again, less than 50% of 25% of 14% of the population isn't going to save the nation from anything.

But I don't doubt you'll repeat the line again anyway, regardless of its falsity. Its all you have.

44 posted on 06/15/2014 3:35:26 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Actually you have said a number of things, from Mexico being less than half Catholic, to American Hispanics being more than half Catholic.

As far as how Evangelical Catholics vote, I’m not aware that we have those numbers, but we do know that the non-catholic Christian Hispanics as a whole voted 44% republican in 2000, 56% republican in 2004, and 48% republican in 2008.

If you are pro-life and conservative, you should be overjoyed at that news, and hope that they all start becoming Evangelicals and pro-life conservative voters.

I don’t know if you have any interest in pro-life and conservative politics and how this news is terrible news for the pro-abortion left.


45 posted on 06/15/2014 3:48:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Let’s hope that this can save Texas.


46 posted on 06/15/2014 4:21:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
...bibles that are annotated with liberal, higher-critical commentaries that insist that the Torah was a late forgery and that Genesis was a rip-off of ancient Babylonian and Canaanite cosmogonical myths."

Care to quote what "bibles" you are referring to? Publisher and editions would be helpful.

47 posted on 06/15/2014 4:30:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You seem to be having a hard time ignoring the image of an angel ripping a two year old child out of the arms of an apolitical, impoverished innocent mother and killing it.


48 posted on 06/15/2014 8:13:30 PM PDT by allendale
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To: chajin
So as Paul put it in Philippians, however the gospel is preached, and whoever is preaching the gospel, I rejoice, so long as it is the gospel.

So do I.

49 posted on 06/16/2014 5:56:27 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ansel12
I won’t get into all the pain that I have seen come from mass immigration and what it did to our incomes and jobs and how it destroyed our communities, our culture and our nation, and our future.
So sorry for your pain.

I will point out that converting democrat voters to pro-life republican voters is a good thing.
You are preaching to the choir.

Remember politics? pro-life?, pro-marriage? all those things that we are really at freerepublic to promote and fight for?
Who doesn't remember them? There ARE more than one way to promote and fight. But, you keep on promoting and fighting. It's what you do.

50 posted on 06/16/2014 6:09:31 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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