Skip to comments.Report: gay man in Michigan removed from parish ministry after “commitment ceremony”
Posted on 06/18/2014 2:12:13 PM PDT by NYer
This story isn’t that unusual. But the swift response from the bishop is.
A gay man in Marquette was told he can no longer have an active role in his Catholic church after he and his longtime partner held a commitment ceremony, according to news reports out of Northern Michigan.
Bobby Glenn Brown and his partner ,Don Roberts, held a ceremony celebrating 31 years together among friends and family on Saturday, June 14. The next day, officials at St. Michael Parish said he couldn’t continue his role on the pastoral council or positions of cantor, lector and a member of the choir,UpperMichigansSource.com reported.
Brown was told he could sit in the vestibule and listen to the service.
The priest said because of his ceremony, he would no longer be able to minister, Brown told public radio WNMU in Marquette. He walked out and was joined by five other parishioners.
Brown said he didn’t hide the fact that he’s gay, according to the interview with WNMU, and had previously felt “welcomed and loved” at the church.
Bishop John Doerfler of the Diocese of Marquette said the public nature of Brown’s
relationship goes against Catholic principles, according to UpperMichigansSource. Doerfler said Brown’s commitment ceremony would indicate it is permissible to act on same-sex attractions and “that’s where the disconnect is from the church’s teachings.”
Another report adds:
In a written statement Bishop John Doerfler says “Everyone is invited to follow Jesus Christ and is invited to be a part of the Catholic Church. One of the qualifications for the public ministry within the Catholic Church is willingness to give witness to the Gospel and the Church’s teachings. Such ministries include serving at Mass as a lector or cantor. The inability to serve in a ministry does not disqualify a person from being a member of the Church.”
To me, this seems incomplete. I’d like to hear the parish’s version of what happened.
This is one area where I am quite in agreement with the RCC. A PRACTICING homosexual has NO place being active in ANY believing church. A CHASTE person with homosexual TENDENCIES is yet welcome as long as impulses/temptations are NOT ACTED ON.
Well just sitting here waiting for the Protestants to come tell us how evil we are and what the priest should have done. In 5....4....3...2...1...
What do you think is missing - an explanation for the swiftness of the bishop's response?
Let me be the first Protestant to defy your expectations, then. The priest acted rightly, both before and after the ‘commitment ceremony.’ All are sinners, and all sinners are welcome to seek reconciliation with God through Jesus Christ, but continuing in sin is not an option for a Christ-follower (no matter what kind of sin that is).
It sounds to me (a Protestant) that it was handled quite well. But then, I was raised Catholic before seeing what was right for me.
Oh trust me! This was posted earlier. Apparently the very priests they dislike are supposed to be all knowing. The guy should not have been Baptized etc. I refuse to be upset by it, rather I now find it amusing!
Your comment literally made me laugh out loud!
Somebody needs to pimp those homos.
If it was understood that he was a non repentant sinner (homosexuality) and had no intention of ever repenting (31 years) what was he doing in a position with the Church to start with??? Obviously any efforts to save him have failed by this point..........
DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL....noone cares if you’re queer...but if you tell, you cannot expect to control people’s reactions...
Deacon, the word is “homosexual”. “Gay” means “happy”.
Being a homosexual is not a sin; acting on it, is.
I wll do no such thing.The Church is a victim in this,it’s what you do now that matters.Sounds like the right things are being done too,the freak was removed from his”ministry”,whatever that was.
By the time they reach that age,they need baggy clothes to hide the Depends.
Nuthin worse than having an “outie”.
Good for them. It’s the homosexuals who abuse children sexually.
**We reached out to the Diocese for Marquette for more information regarding their sudden decision.
In a written statement Bishop John Doerfler says “Everyone is invited to follow Jesus Christ and is invited to be a part of the Catholic Church. One of the qualifications for the public ministry within the Catholic Church is willingness to give witness to the Gospel and the Church’s teachings. Such ministries include serving at Mass as a lector or cantor. The inability to serve in a ministry does not disqualify a person from being a member of the Church.”**
“This is one area where I am quite in agreement with the RCC. A PRACTICING homosexual has NO place being active in ANY believing church. A CHASTE person with homosexual TENDENCIES is yet welcome as long as impulses/temptations are NOT ACTED ON.”
These deviants have cost the Church millions in lawsuits; at the first indication that they “aren’t right” they have to be removed from anything that would expose children to harm.
Yes, it was a homosexual scandal, complete with homosexual rape.
He did not hide the fact that he was gay.
That indicates the sodomy was approved by the congregation.
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Being a homosexual is not a sin; acting on it, is.>>>>
Yeah, its not a sin for a dog to be a dog but its a sin for him to bark.......
The inability to serve in a ministry does not disqualify a person from being a member of the Church.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Matthew 5:27-28 You have heard that it was said, You shall not commit adultery. But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
1 Samuel 16:7 But the Lord said to Samuel, Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.
This business of *being a homosexual but not acting on it is OK* is a bunch of nonsense.
Sin begins in the heart before it bears fruit in the actions.
It's one thing to struggle with temptation. It's another to self-identify with it, to accept it and let sin become your identity.
The Catholic church, or any church for that matter, which affirms homosexuality in any way such as saying that it's OK to be one as long as you don't act on it, is on the slippery slope.
*Celebrating* your sinfulness and sinful inclinations is a recipe for spiritual disaster.
The no-questions-ask “welcoming” policy of this church has come back to bite them. Welcoming any and all unrepentant sinners to participate in the heart of a church of Jesus Christ is not biblical in the least.
I guess all alcoholics are going straight to Hell in your book.
Let’s hope you never committed a sin and then stopped doing it because it was a sin.
You’ll join them.
If you’re still owning the sin as a point of identity, you haven’t repented of it.
God did not make people homosexuals. They chose that path.
If they claim homosexuality and figure that if they physically abstain but mentally do not but still engage, they they are sinning in their hearts.
Except that someone can have same-sex attraction without ever consciously choosing to have it, just as someone can struggle with a temptation toward some other sin without ever consciously choosing to be tempted in that particular way.
That doesn't make it psychologically normal, BTW, just not a consequence of deliberate choice and therefore not a sin.
Acting on it is a sin.