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Censoring Vatican Website Cannot Stand
Catholic League ^ | June 19, 2014 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 06/20/2014 2:23:43 PM PDT by NYer

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Bill Donohue comments on the response by Jody Ian Goeler, Superintendent of Schools for Regional School District 14 in Connecticut, to accusations that the Vatican website has been blocked in district schools because it promotes “hate speech”:

Yesterday afternoon, I asked Superintendent Goeler to “please identify examples of ‘hate speech’ found on the Vatican’s website.” He responded last night saying that he never “stated or implied anywhere that the Vatican website promotes or has examples of hate speech.” This resolves nothing. In a public letter released today, Goeler admits that access is provided to liberal websites, but not conservative ones. Nowhere does he address the issue of censoring the Vatican (Islamic sites are okay).

Goeler would have us believe that some kind of technological glitch is at work; he is asking the filtering service provider, Dell SonicWALL, for an explanation. But this condition is not a technological fluke—it is the work of a left-wing ideologue. Goeler’s big mistake was to state his tolerance for intolerance. “The district is trying to determine the reason for the inconsistency and if bias is pervasive enough to justify switching to another content filtering provider.” (My italics.)

I spent 20 years in education, 16 as a professor, and I cannot believe that any seasoned educator would make such a remarkable comment. Goeler would have us believe that before he can rule on this matter, he needs to know if the “bias is pervasive enough to justify switching.” Just how many websites of a “conservative”—or for that matter a “liberal”—nature have to be blocked to merit a change? And how many Catholic websites have to be censored before action is taken? The man is not suitable to work in education.

We are taking this issue to Stefan Pryor, Commissioner of the State Department of Education in Connecticut. This is a serious matter. Abridging the First Amendment can only be allowed when there is some competing interest of overriding importance. Stopping students from accessing the Vatican’s website is not one of them.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: connecticut; education

1 posted on 06/20/2014 2:23:43 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2014 2:24:01 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
Goeler admits that access is provided to liberal websites, but not conservative ones.

No indoctrination in our schools. Move along, now.

3 posted on 06/20/2014 2:28:56 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: NYer

Jody Ian looks a little light in the loafers. One suspects personal animus.

And surely Bill is being rhetorically disingenuous in saying that he is surprised at an “educator’s” acting in this way.

(rant ON) What are the students doing on the Internet anyway? We got an excellent education, through college, with no more than a word processor. Get the kids off the freeping computers, and have them read dead-tree text and write with pencils. (rant OFF)


4 posted on 06/20/2014 2:43:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick
What are the students doing on the Internet anyway?

In this situation, the student was preparing for a debate and wanted to provide both views. His initial discovery was that the National Rifle Association’s website was blocked, but not anti-gun websites. But the more websites Lampart tried to reach, the stranger it got. The State Democrat web site was unblocked but the GOP site was blocked. Lampart checked out websites related to abortion. He discovered that the National Right to Life website was blocked, but not Planned Parenthood or NARAL Pro-Choice America’s websites. Lampart had similar results when checking out religious websites. Christianity.com and the Vatican’s web site were both blocked, but Islam-guide.com was not.

Lampart brought this to Fox News where it has now been picked up by others.

5 posted on 06/20/2014 3:18:17 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer; Tax-chick

Just look at the Hate that is in the ten commandments! We can’t have children to be taught to hate sin, hate lying, hate stealing, hate murdering (sarcasm)


6 posted on 06/20/2014 3:19:16 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

leftists being leftists

and they are in charge of the molding of millions and millions of childrens minds


7 posted on 06/20/2014 3:19:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: NYer

I still think they should be off the computer at school, using books. When I was doing debate, it was an “extracurricular activity,” and you were doing it outside school time with your own library and other resources. (rant OFF)

This is not to say that, if the school is too pathetic to have books, they should be allowed to limited computer access to a leftist perspective. They still should just have books.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 3:40:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: GreyFriar

Of course not. That would be intolerant and judgmental.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 3:41:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

“(rant ON) What are the students doing on the Internet anyway? We got an excellent education, through college, with no more than a word processor.”

You had WORD PROCESSORS? We didn't even have TYPEWRITERS!! We didn't even have PAYPYRUS!! We had to pound out our answers in STONE!!

My senior thesis weighed four TONS!!

Misspellings were a B!TCH to correct!!


sitetest

10 posted on 06/20/2014 4:06:05 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Dear sitetest,

Snert.

I made some money in college because I had a manual typewriter, which worked when the power was off, which was a lot of the time. If you had a paper due, you’d pay me a per-page fee, plus wine and candles, to get it done during a power failure.

Maybe they’ve fixed the power issue in the last 25 years.


11 posted on 06/20/2014 4:17:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: NYer
As the person responsible for the content filter at our very large school district, I can tell you that the vendor is not the problem. Yes, sites can be placed in incorrect categories sometimes, but the choices of which categories get blocked and which do not is made by the school district. And the district has the ability to either unblock the whole category, or unblock (or block) specific sites.

The web page for this particular product states the following:

"Granular content filtering capabilities allow administrators to block all predefined categories or any combination of categories. Filtering can be scheduled by time of day, such as during school or business hours. Dell SonicWALL content filtering solutions also enhance performance by filtering out IM, MP3s, streaming media, freeware and other files that drain bandwidth... Administrators can enforce multiple custom policies for individual users, groups or specific category types. Local URL filtering controls can allow or deny specific domains or hosts. To block objectionable material more effectively, administrators can also create or customize filtering databases."

So regardless of their protestations, someone at the school district is responsible for deciding to block those site or that category of sites. If the Vatican web site was being blocked under the category of "Violence/Hate speech", someone at the district had to deliberately put it in that category, because no content filter vendor I have seen (and I have evaluated many over the years in the course of my job) would ever categorize it as such - they would risk losing too much business, especially from parochial/Christian schools.

12 posted on 06/20/2014 4:27:22 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative; NYer

>> “someone at the district had to deliberately put it in that category” <<

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Yup!

And school districts are lefty hate central.
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13 posted on 06/20/2014 4:31:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

Soft pitch. Couldn't resist taking a smack at it. My older son would likely groan for taking the easy hit.

In truth, I worked at a lab with pretty much state=of=the=art minicomputers when I was in college, and we actually had a primitive word processing program.

We also had IBM Selectrics in the lab.

I also had a manual typewrite at home.

And stone tablets with a chisel and a hammer.

I was multi-media.


sitetest

14 posted on 06/20/2014 4:33:28 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I had a Selectric II at That Insurance Company. I loved it. I wish I had one now.

My kids are all techy-fied, too, until you ask them to put a roll of toilet paper on a spindle. Then they stare at you blankly, like newly-awakened reptiles.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 4:36:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick

Show them a Commodore 64

lol


16 posted on 06/20/2014 4:40:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: NYer

bkmk


17 posted on 06/20/2014 4:44:37 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: GeronL

My husband had one and used it to play computer games, with a cassette-tape drive. We had TRS-80s in high school.


18 posted on 06/20/2014 4:48:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick

“I still think they should be off the computer at school, using books.”

Amen.

http://www.amazon.com/High-Tech-Heretic-Reflections-Contrarian/dp/0385489757


19 posted on 06/20/2014 5:52:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

WIN. Found in my library catalog! I’m often pleasantly surprised by the People’s Republic of Charlotte-Mecklenburg. Obviously someone in the bowels of the library system just likes books.


20 posted on 06/20/2014 5:55:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: NYer

It is foolish to expect a government school to actually teach something.


21 posted on 06/20/2014 5:58:10 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Tax-chick

It’s a good book - albeit now “old” in computer years.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 6:00:59 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Meh, I’m old, too.


23 posted on 06/20/2014 6:01:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Tax-chick
Get the kids off the freeping computers, and have them read dead-tree text and write with pencils. (rant OFF)

My students use them for Technical drawing with AutoCAD and Inventor. They receive up to 9 credits from the local community college.

I start them out on the drawing board, after they have mastered the basics we move to the computer. I tell them straight out the only thing the computer does is allow you to make the same mistakes faster.

Companies are demanding technical competency and for my students to be able to compete in college or the job market they need to have these basic skills.

24 posted on 06/20/2014 11:03:17 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Tax-chick
I made some money in college because I had a manual typewriter, which worked when the power was off, which was a lot of the time. If you had a paper due, you’d pay me a per-page fee, plus wine and candles, to get it done during a power failure.

In which world was your college? First, Second, or Third?

In order for the get paid to type while power off business model to be viable, I'd guess Third. Probably Kenya or somewhere else on the same continent. LOL!

25 posted on 06/20/2014 11:19:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Texas.


26 posted on 06/21/2014 3:00:50 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: verga

Obviously, a technical training program in which computers are used is an exception to my generalization.


27 posted on 06/21/2014 3:02:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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28 posted on 06/21/2014 3:02:40 AM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Tax-chick
Obviously, a technical training program in which computers are used is an exception to my generalization.

I think you misunderstood. I was agreeing with you. I limit the scope of their use to a specific area, and they only get to use them after they have demonstrated a level of proficiency using the tried and true manual methods first.

29 posted on 06/21/2014 4:30:18 AM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: verga

Yes, I did misunderstand. Thanks for explaining!


30 posted on 06/21/2014 5:19:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: annalex
It is foolish to expect a government school to actually teach something.

Oh, no. You are quite wrong.

They teach a lot of things, and they're getting better at it as time goes by.

Moral relativism, nihilism, atheism, sexual anarchy and r-mating strategy, birth control, hatred of whites, respect for savage and barbarian cultures - the list goes on and on.

And if you don't think they are good at what they do, you must live in an over-55 community. Just check out the recent products of the system - it's all coming together.

31 posted on 06/21/2014 5:24:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Tax-chick
They still should just have books.

I agree. But they should have REAL books. Unfortunately, the only books allowed into the public schools are as badly slanted as this internet program. And from what I have seen, even the Prep Schools have drifted that way.

32 posted on 06/21/2014 8:36:20 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Excellent point.


33 posted on 06/21/2014 8:37:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Cynicism is a far greater spiritual danger than naivete." ~ Stephen Webb)
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To: Jim Noble

Of course they do that, but I meant teaching something positive.


34 posted on 06/21/2014 2:10:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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