Skip to comments.Censoring Vatican Website Cannot Stand
Posted on 06/20/2014 2:23:43 PM PDT by NYer
Bill Donohue comments on the response by Jody Ian Goeler, Superintendent of Schools for Regional School District 14 in Connecticut, to accusations that the Vatican website has been blocked in district schools because it promotes “hate speech”:
Yesterday afternoon, I asked Superintendent Goeler to “please identify examples of ‘hate speech’ found on the Vatican’s website.” He responded last night saying that he never “stated or implied anywhere that the Vatican website promotes or has examples of hate speech.” This resolves nothing. In a public letter released today, Goeler admits that access is provided to liberal websites, but not conservative ones. Nowhere does he address the issue of censoring the Vatican (Islamic sites are okay).
Goeler would have us believe that some kind of technological glitch is at work; he is asking the filtering service provider, Dell SonicWALL, for an explanation. But this condition is not a technological flukeit is the work of a left-wing ideologue. Goeler’s big mistake was to state his tolerance for intolerance. “The district is trying to determine the reason for the inconsistency and if bias is pervasive enough to justify switching to another content filtering provider.” (My italics.)
I spent 20 years in education, 16 as a professor, and I cannot believe that any seasoned educator would make such a remarkable comment. Goeler would have us believe that before he can rule on this matter, he needs to know if the “bias is pervasive enough to justify switching.” Just how many websites of a “conservative”or for that matter a “liberal”nature have to be blocked to merit a change? And how many Catholic websites have to be censored before action is taken? The man is not suitable to work in education.
We are taking this issue to Stefan Pryor, Commissioner of the State Department of Education in Connecticut. This is a serious matter. Abridging the First Amendment can only be allowed when there is some competing interest of overriding importance. Stopping students from accessing the Vatican’s website is not one of them.
No indoctrination in our schools. Move along, now.
Jody Ian looks a little light in the loafers. One suspects personal animus.
And surely Bill is being rhetorically disingenuous in saying that he is surprised at an “educator’s” acting in this way.
(rant ON) What are the students doing on the Internet anyway? We got an excellent education, through college, with no more than a word processor. Get the kids off the freeping computers, and have them read dead-tree text and write with pencils. (rant OFF)
In this situation, the student was preparing for a debate and wanted to provide both views. His initial discovery was that the National Rifle Associations website was blocked, but not anti-gun websites. But the more websites Lampart tried to reach, the stranger it got. The State Democrat web site was unblocked but the GOP site was blocked. Lampart checked out websites related to abortion. He discovered that the National Right to Life website was blocked, but not Planned Parenthood or NARAL Pro-Choice Americas websites. Lampart had similar results when checking out religious websites. Christianity.com and the Vaticans web site were both blocked, but Islam-guide.com was not.
Lampart brought this to Fox News where it has now been picked up by others.
Just look at the Hate that is in the ten commandments! We can’t have children to be taught to hate sin, hate lying, hate stealing, hate murdering (sarcasm)
leftists being leftists
and they are in charge of the molding of millions and millions of childrens minds
I still think they should be off the computer at school, using books. When I was doing debate, it was an “extracurricular activity,” and you were doing it outside school time with your own library and other resources. (rant OFF)
This is not to say that, if the school is too pathetic to have books, they should be allowed to limited computer access to a leftist perspective. They still should just have books.
Of course not. That would be intolerant and judgmental.
“(rant ON) What are the students doing on the Internet anyway? We got an excellent education, through college, with no more than a word processor.”
You had WORD PROCESSORS? We didn't even have TYPEWRITERS!! We didn't even have PAYPYRUS!! We had to pound out our answers in STONE!!
My senior thesis weighed four TONS!!
Misspellings were a B!TCH to correct!!
I made some money in college because I had a manual typewriter, which worked when the power was off, which was a lot of the time. If you had a paper due, you’d pay me a per-page fee, plus wine and candles, to get it done during a power failure.
Maybe they’ve fixed the power issue in the last 25 years.
The web page for this particular product states the following:
"Granular content filtering capabilities allow administrators to block all predefined categories or any combination of categories. Filtering can be scheduled by time of day, such as during school or business hours. Dell SonicWALL content filtering solutions also enhance performance by filtering out IM, MP3s, streaming media, freeware and other files that drain bandwidth... Administrators can enforce multiple custom policies for individual users, groups or specific category types. Local URL filtering controls can allow or deny specific domains or hosts. To block objectionable material more effectively, administrators can also create or customize filtering databases."
So regardless of their protestations, someone at the school district is responsible for deciding to block those site or that category of sites. If the Vatican web site was being blocked under the category of "Violence/Hate speech", someone at the district had to deliberately put it in that category, because no content filter vendor I have seen (and I have evaluated many over the years in the course of my job) would ever categorize it as such - they would risk losing too much business, especially from parochial/Christian schools.
>> “someone at the district had to deliberately put it in that category” <<
And school districts are lefty hate central.
Soft pitch. Couldn't resist taking a smack at it. My older son would likely groan for taking the easy hit.
In truth, I worked at a lab with pretty much state=of=the=art minicomputers when I was in college, and we actually had a primitive word processing program.
We also had IBM Selectrics in the lab.
I also had a manual typewrite at home.
And stone tablets with a chisel and a hammer.
I was multi-media.
I had a Selectric II at That Insurance Company. I loved it. I wish I had one now.
My kids are all techy-fied, too, until you ask them to put a roll of toilet paper on a spindle. Then they stare at you blankly, like newly-awakened reptiles.
Show them a Commodore 64
My husband had one and used it to play computer games, with a cassette-tape drive. We had TRS-80s in high school.
“I still think they should be off the computer at school, using books.”
WIN. Found in my library catalog! I’m often pleasantly surprised by the People’s Republic of Charlotte-Mecklenburg. Obviously someone in the bowels of the library system just likes books.
It is foolish to expect a government school to actually teach something.
It’s a good book - albeit now “old” in computer years.
Meh, I’m old, too.
My students use them for Technical drawing with AutoCAD and Inventor. They receive up to 9 credits from the local community college.
I start them out on the drawing board, after they have mastered the basics we move to the computer. I tell them straight out the only thing the computer does is allow you to make the same mistakes faster.
Companies are demanding technical competency and for my students to be able to compete in college or the job market they need to have these basic skills.
In which world was your college? First, Second, or Third?
In order for the get paid to type while power off business model to be viable, I'd guess Third. Probably Kenya or somewhere else on the same continent. LOL!
Obviously, a technical training program in which computers are used is an exception to my generalization.
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I think you misunderstood. I was agreeing with you. I limit the scope of their use to a specific area, and they only get to use them after they have demonstrated a level of proficiency using the tried and true manual methods first.
Yes, I did misunderstand. Thanks for explaining!
Oh, no. You are quite wrong.
They teach a lot of things, and they're getting better at it as time goes by.
Moral relativism, nihilism, atheism, sexual anarchy and r-mating strategy, birth control, hatred of whites, respect for savage and barbarian cultures - the list goes on and on.
And if you don't think they are good at what they do, you must live in an over-55 community. Just check out the recent products of the system - it's all coming together.
I agree. But they should have REAL books. Unfortunately, the only books allowed into the public schools are as badly slanted as this internet program. And from what I have seen, even the Prep Schools have drifted that way.
Of course they do that, but I meant teaching something positive.