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Is There Anything Prophetic About the ISIS?
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2014/06/22/is-there-anything-prophetic-about-isis/ ^ | 06-21-14 | Bill Randles

Posted on 06/21/2014 8:39:31 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

Edited on 06/22/2014 5:15:01 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The world is reeling with the horrifying spectacle of the recent stunning success of the Sunni Islam, ISIS, (Islamic Society of Syria and Iraq),which in the past two weeks has taken over most of Iraq, and is currently encircling Baghdad. The group has become the richest terror organization in the world after plundering banks in Mosul(Biblical Ninevah), and as a prize has taken Fallujah and Tikrit, places the United States,Britain and their coalition spent billions in treasure and thousands of our finest young lives to “liberate”.


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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: endtimes; eschatology; iraq; isis; prophecy; shia; sunni
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1 posted on 06/21/2014 8:39:31 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles

What I’m thinking is the mess in the Middle East. What I’d watch for is someone coming up saying the have the answer to all the war and strife and if only they would give him power to handle it .....


2 posted on 06/21/2014 8:41:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Kindle Sword OnThe LAnd"
3 posted on 06/21/2014 8:41:39 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: SkyDancer

amen!


4 posted on 06/21/2014 8:42:25 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Plain old crass political move on part of president Obummer to satisfy war weary American voters. He should have left 20,000 troops in Iraq as the generals wanted. We have more troops than that in Germany & S. Korea after 75 years.


6 posted on 06/21/2014 8:51:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, thanks to voters who abstained on election day!)
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To: pastorbillrandles

I didn’t know you had a book out. I just ordered it and I look forward to reading it.

I’ve always enjoyed your posts and I have found them very informative.


7 posted on 06/21/2014 8:56:39 PM PDT by boycott
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To: pastorbillrandles

Some great descriptions of muslims in these 3 Bible passages!


8 posted on 06/21/2014 8:57:32 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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To: F15Eagle; pastorbillrandles
Messed up that sentence. Should have written instead "What I’d watch for is someone coming up saying he has the answer......
9 posted on 06/21/2014 9:03:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Scary stuff. It all comes back to the Holy Land. Pray hard.


10 posted on 06/21/2014 9:04:10 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SkyDancer

C’mon people. What evidence do you have that these Islamist are any worse than any other? Obama said so? CNN, ABC ,CBS,and Fox said so? The rhetoric is only to give the President latitude. The Sunni are the historical power players in Iraq. These are the people we should have set up shop with. Once more we chose the wrong side. The good news is they are killing each other and they hate each other more than they hate us.


11 posted on 06/21/2014 9:04:59 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: pastorbillrandles

Thank you, Pastor Bill.


12 posted on 06/21/2014 9:13:53 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: SkyDancer

The anti-Christ will be welcomed by many because the world will be in such dire straits. Obama is putting it all in place.


13 posted on 06/21/2014 9:24:29 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

A lot of marauding hordes have barreled through what is now Iraq over the past two millennia: The Persians on several occasions, the Arabs, the Seljuk Turks, the Mongols, the Ottoman Turks, the Turko-Mongols under Tamerlane, and the British. No wonder the geopolitician Halford Mackinder called the region a “shatterbelt.”


14 posted on 06/21/2014 9:32:15 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: pastorbillrandles

“The Shia are concentrated in Iran, southern Iraq, southern Lebanon and a minority in Syria.”

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You forgot to mention that the bulk of the oil of Saudi Arabia is found in the Eastern Province which is predominantly Shia in a sea of Sunni, but that the Shia do not benefit from it as much as the Sunnis do.

The Royal family of S.A. are all Sunni.


15 posted on 06/21/2014 9:43:10 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SkyDancer

That someone can only be a non-Muslim.


16 posted on 06/21/2014 9:46:05 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: boycott

Thanks Boycott, let me know how like it.


17 posted on 06/21/2014 10:08:40 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: 353FMG

Very good and important point, also I could have mentioned that the Shia are primarily clients of Russia, and the US through the Saudis, supported Sunni-(Alot of good that did us!)


18 posted on 06/21/2014 10:10:55 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: pastorbillrandles

I too have no doubt that all this is prepwork for what’s on the way. More geopolitical puzzle pieces of the end sliding into place. I’ve become 90% convinced that the “12th imam” will be the AntiChrist, that Pope Francis is the False Prophet, and the “historic peace treaty” that ushers in the Tribulation will be a deal in which Arabs agree for the Jews to rebuild the temple, in exchange for Israel giving up east Jerusalem.

MM


19 posted on 06/21/2014 10:26:45 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: pastorbillrandles
I find the Kurds very interesting at this time in their history.... They are not Arabs, nor Turks, rather their entire culture is vastly different the the Arab country's surrounding them....greatly welcome western influences..have an enormous ability of tolerance for all, including varied religions throughout their population.... And considered one of the most friendliest county's in the world for their hospitality and warm welcome. They have learned "How" to live with all their diversity peaceably.

Speaking of population...Kurds are NOT just a small ethnic group as many imagine...their actual population is equal to that of Canada, though they are scattered in other nations as well.

Since Saddam was taken out...the Kurds have made enormous strides in building a “country” within Iraq. Their own army , Government, infrastructure is all in good shape. The only thing which has kept them from becoming an independent country is cash flow, which after taking over the oil now would make them independent of Baghdad’s “cut” from the oil. They would have no need of Baghdad now. I think Iraq will become a federation....with three seperate regions..which of course many had determined would come to this in time.

How the Kurds, (Medes), come into the prophetic picture will be very interesting to observe in the months and years ahead. Especially since they are favorable toward Israel...and vice-versa.

20 posted on 06/21/2014 10:35:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: pastorbillrandles

21 posted on 06/21/2014 10:36:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: pastorbillrandles

What the Kurds endured over the centuries is remarkble....I think after Saddam used chemical weapons, taking well over 12, ooo just in two of thier communities.....they would not show mercy toward any in Iraq (Sunni or Shite) if either should rise against them....what was done to their people by Saddam was beyond cruel. I’m not so sure they see Shites or Sunni’s differently in respect to their own freedom and desire to maintain their culture. They don’t appear to side with either rather which ever will bring peace to the nation overall..and that’s more to do with the leadership of Iraq.

In some ways the Kurdish culture sort of reminds me of how Israel has fought to retain their culture and people over the years....Kurds have been repressed by nations and suffered much to sustain their culture.


22 posted on 06/21/2014 10:47:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

bkmk


23 posted on 06/21/2014 11:05:22 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

bookmark


24 posted on 06/21/2014 11:40:34 PM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: pastorbillrandles

LOL!


25 posted on 06/22/2014 12:25:36 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: F15Eagle

There is some speculation that the a-c comes from the House of Wales. Princes Charles, William, George or even Harry could be the one.


27 posted on 06/22/2014 2:54:59 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: pastorbillrandles

I prefer a print book to a real book, but I just purchased your book because this is probably the most important book I’m going to read this year.

Making breakfast, and will spend the day reading it on my iPad.

Thank you Sir, for the courage to write it.


29 posted on 06/22/2014 3:30:06 AM PDT by Gefn (More cowbell)
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To: SkyDancer
What I’m thinking is the mess in the Middle East. What I’d watch for is someone coming up saying the have the answer to all the war and strife and if only they would give him power to handle it ...

I'm watching for an actual "peace" deal that affects Israel. If that couples with a sudden and "unexpected" financial boon that affects the world, it will be time to tie up any loose ends...

30 posted on 06/22/2014 4:02:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: pastorbillrandles

“From Genesis, we learn that much of the Arab nation came from the first-born son of Abraham, Ishmael. He was not the child of the promise,nor was he born of Sarah Abraham’s wife. Ishmael was the son of Abraham through his bondslave, the Egyptian woman,Hagar.”

In other words, not legitamite, forgive me of any misspellings, not legit born?

I would use another word, but I want to keep it “clean” this posting and thread.


31 posted on 06/22/2014 4:06:32 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: pastorbillrandles

not directly by name

but look for the takeover of Babylon with the one world religion moving in

the pope, the liberal protestants and some form of Islam, all claming to be one


32 posted on 06/22/2014 5:36:08 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: F15Eagle
Although I believed the Revived Roman Empire theory, along with everyone else, for a long, long time, I'm no longer sold. The primary objection to this theory is that the Bible clearly identifies AntiChrist as coming from "the people" who destroyed Jerusalem (in A.D. 70). While there's no doubt that Titus was in charge of Rome at the time, nor any doubt that he was the authority behind the sacking, there's considerable historical evidence that "the people" who carried out the attack were predominantly Arab conscripts, not Italians or Romans in any sense other than taking orders from Rome. Or heck, given the already-entrenched hatred of Arabs for the Jews, they probably only needed permission.

Who cannot look around today and see that the major spiritual battle on Earth is between the forces of God and the forces of Islam? It's so glaringly obvious. Plus, the similarities between the prophesied Islamic "messiah" and the prophesied AntiChrist are uncanny. It's really exactly as it has always been: God vs. an evil attempted counterfeit cum usurper of God.

As to why so many were wrong for so long, I think that's simple: God told Daniel to seal up the book until the end times. I think only now is God revealing the obvious truth about the nature of what lies ahead. But there are so many prophecy "experts" out there who have literally built their lives and careers around the Roman theory, and change would require them to invalidate what they've said on the matter their entire lives. That kind of change is tough.

I think most serious prophecy followers today--you and I come instantly to mind among these--agree that we're nearing the end. Given what we've seen unfolding over the past decades, picture this scenario:

The rapture occurs, leaving behind all Muslims, a ton of nominal Protestants, and countless Catholics. The world is now made up almost entirely of pie-eyed naivete, desperate for answers. There's not any real Christian leadership left, and a charming and peace-loving Muslim pops up out of nowhere with a solution to finally put the Middle East at peace, to end the strife so the world can sing Kumbaya. Given the heretical ecumenism already underway with Francis, a big speech about "all God's children coming together in the wake of this tragedy" is no stretch at all. In fact, it's perfect. Expected.

Finally, an intriguing possibility: Given what's happening in Europe today, is it any stretch to imagine this wonderful Muslim leader having a strong European connection as well? That would be the ultimate example of two birds with one stone, eh? MM

33 posted on 06/22/2014 9:13:33 AM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Lots of folks are wondering...me included...

ISIS, Are We Witnessing One of the Women of Revelations? (Vanity) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3168721/posts

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The Beast in the War Machine

Sirius was also known as the Star queen Isis, the mother goddess and her marriage to the sun.

Throughout history the summer solstice and the throne of Isis which basks in the sun of the summer solstice have been very powerful symbols and it is no accident that we have seen these symbolic images before.

We have covered extensively the symbolism of ISIS and the newly organized “Islamic State in Iraq and Syria” and how it is a powerful acronym recognized in the west. We have also covered the appearance of an Isis doppelganger in the Disney Film Maleficent.

We have also spoken of the thousands of years that have transpired since the first caliphate took power after the death of Mohammad and how his name is similar to the leader of the newly formed Isis.

According to it is written that Abu Backr was the first Caliphate or successor to Mohammed.

Backr’s biography states: After Mohammed died (632), an assembly of Muslims in Mecca elected Abu Bakr as the first ‘khalifat rasul Allah’ (successor of the Prophet of God), or caliph. Under him the collection of Mohammed’s revelations was recorded in the Koran. Abu Bakr suppressed tribal uprisings and brought central Arabia under Muslim control, after which he directed Arab armies into Iraq and Syria initiating thus the Muslim conquests.

ISIS coincidentally is being lead by an elusive leader named Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, a man who shares the name with the first caliphate after Mohammad
http://www.groundzeromedia.org/the-beast-in-the-war-machine/

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All of this is intriguing, as we are instructed to watch for the signs. Isis in a scarlet sheath dress bedecked in gold, pearls, and royal purples of Egypt...same depicted in Babylon as Ishtar goddess of prostitutes.

The Great Harlot is not the church...before modern man or Christ...the Great Harlot was Isis/Ishtar.


35 posted on 06/22/2014 11:58:00 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: MississippiMan

The Mideast obviously has a role to play here in the end times. However I think we’ve always envisioned them as it’s been for the last 50 or so years, as a collection of Israel hating name states, much like the coalition that attacked them during the Yom Kippur War.

The whole Arab Spring destabilization followed by the rise of the various Wahabi influenced Islamic groups is changing the view. One can feel the force that they are expanding with to know that there is something more going on that meets the eye. Now it’s starting to look like the Caliphate thing again, with the Iran/Shia stick jabbed in their to make it more interesting.

Whatever is taking shape there, what we know is the whole paradigm of the old order crumbling-instability-chaos-power vacuum-new order arising, such as what happened in Nazi Germany or Czarist Russia, is happening there. Whether they are the RRE remains to be seen, but it is also not out of the question, as this area was mostly in the old RE.

Change is afoot and the chess pieces of the end times are moving, I’m sure we’ll see in our lifetimes what is arising.


36 posted on 06/22/2014 1:22:39 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: caww

caww, you bring up some interesting points, however what about the Kurd’s role in the Armenian Genocide? While I agree that it is good that they are out from Sunni/Shia control, I do not see these people as a shining example of integrity. What are your thoughts?


37 posted on 06/22/2014 2:56:28 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Probably not.


38 posted on 06/22/2014 3:05:22 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Free Vulcan

Agreed, Vulcan.

MM


39 posted on 06/22/2014 4:32:40 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: F15Eagle

Yup, the beheading element is a biggie.

I don’t think Jews and nominal Christians will be expected to acknowledge the AntiChrist as any kind of messiah early on. I think the situation will be sold by the False Prophet as more of an interfaith, ecumenical thing. Of course, we know AC will eventually demand to be worshipped, but I don’t think there’s anything that mandates it early in the Tribulation when the masses are being sucked into the deception.

MM


40 posted on 06/22/2014 4:37:58 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: humblegunner

ping


41 posted on 06/22/2014 5:08:38 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: pastorbillrandles

bookmark


42 posted on 06/22/2014 5:16:53 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: pastorbillrandles

Hey everybody It has been brought to my attention that I wasn’t supposed to put that link to my book, it is soliciting and against the policy of this fine site. I am sorry about that, If it offended anyone, I meant no harm-


44 posted on 06/22/2014 8:36:02 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: pastorbillrandles

bookmarking for later


45 posted on 06/23/2014 4:57:14 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Well I do think when you look at the Middle East nations, and for that matter in many of the conflicts worldwide, Muslim Islamists are more times then not instigators in one way or another....I believe this was also in the Armenia Genocide where Islamic Kurds seemed to have spearheaded the event...or at least highly influenced it.

As we've seen in Egypt, Syria, and now Iraq. The “wild man” always goes to where ever there is conflict, will change sides on a whim, and often fed heavy drugs to carry out the atrocities we read of.

I mention this because it is always difficult to determine if or not the actual opposing sides are doing the damage, rather that these “wild men” can often do so to incite further war. They are after all paid to fight...that is what they do as their vocation.

When looking at Ukraine it is not simply Ukraine's Army and the Citizens fighting....you also have the Oligarchs with their own personal armies fighting....also the hired militias which Ukraine is using, Russia is using, and the Nazi element is using. It's all a hodge podge of elements.

The Middle East conflicts are never clear, rather intensely varied.....but at the heart is always the lust for power and wealth regardless of the motive used to justify, and the tribes who continue to fight as they have throughout history. Religion is used ‘to motivate the masses’ when it's advantageous to do so.

I still tend to find the Kurds really just want to have their own country, and do not see themselves as Arabs or tied to any one religion. They will always fight from whatever standpoint would lead them to their goal of an independent nation. What is interesting, as the Iraq War heats up...is the refuges who head toward Kurdish areas.....those who are weary of war and want peace seem to understand the Kurdish people will accept them. They recognize the Kurds as basically peaceful seeking for all. Unlike the Islamists who see peace ONLY through Islam ad until all nations are under Islamic rule there can be no peace.

46 posted on 06/23/2014 10:01:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: EBH
Just a side note here....interesting how many religious movements and cults have a “female” deity or idol within their faith....and is often times central to who they pay homage to. From New Agers to some of the larger false religions there is a female entity...Hinduism and many eastern religions have a female entities.....Interesting as much it is only ISlam who pays little if any homage to any woman.

I tend to think that the “she” side of these religions and cults will be central to a common ground of uniting faiths to some degree. I say so because the great deception will be powerful on the minds and hearts of people for having refused Christ....the masses will be easily led as history shows.

47 posted on 06/23/2014 10:10:37 AM PDT by caww
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To: pastorbillrandles
In the broad sense, Turkey is the key - The Magog War cannot occur without her... She is historically the head of the Caliphate. She is the 'land of Magog', Meshech and Tubal are from her, as is Togarmah. What we see happening is the formation of the Caliphate which will eventually go against Israel, along with Russia and Germany (perhaps broadened to the EU)... When Turkey finally aligns with Islaam (and she is pretty wobbly now), all the pieces will be in place for the rise of a Caliph.

The infighting we see now, while pertinent, is incidental - Except in that Iraq must needfully be part of that broad coalition, hence must fall to the jackals.

Note however, that Ps83 could come sooner, and could very well be the catalyst that causes that Caliphate to aggregate.

48 posted on 06/23/2014 11:06:12 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: caww
Actually the homage to 'woman' comes in the form of the crescent, moon, and star. If one looks at images of Isis or Ishtar, upon her head one observes the crescent and moon/star...or even an empty thrown.

Do a minimal search on the internet and one will come across dozens of sites that illustrate the linkage between Isis, Ishtar, and the Islamic Crescent and star. I am providing a link to another forum to give you a better idea of how Islam and a 'female goddess' are indeed linked.

Is ISLAM based on PAGAN roots?

I would submit that the recognized symbol for Islam is quite feminine and in ancient times was well recognized as belonging to the goddess Isis/Ishtar.

49 posted on 06/23/2014 11:43:10 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: F15Eagle

Agreed, Eagle. Mid-trib is when we’re definitely gonna see the mandatory worship of the Beast.


50 posted on 06/23/2014 9:32:42 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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