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White House invites "gay-affirming" Southern Baptist pastor to Presidential reception
http://www.christianity.com/news/white-house-invites-pastor-of-southern-baptist-church-which-broke-ranks-on-homosexuality-to-reception-with-president-122202/ ^

Posted on 06/25/2014 6:54:49 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

I can't cut and paste right now, but the story says the "pastor" is invited to a reception with Obama on June 30.

(Excerpt) Read more at christianity.com ...


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KEYWORDS: baptist; heresy; homosexualagenda; obama; whitehouse
I really doubt that Obama would have extended this invitation if the SBC had taken action against this church at its annual meetings, which the faith requires that it should have.
1 posted on 06/25/2014 6:54:49 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Your linky no worky.


2 posted on 06/25/2014 6:56:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Faith Presses On

Page Not Found


3 posted on 06/25/2014 6:57:13 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Faith Presses On

I hope the link works. I had to guess what it would be since I’m on a phone and the link I have is for the mobile version. If it isn’t right I would really appreciate it if someone could post the correct one. Thank you.


4 posted on 06/25/2014 6:57:23 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

They should take immediate action now then, to prevent being affiliated with this abomination


5 posted on 06/25/2014 6:57:24 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: F15Eagle; Gamecock

Sorry. Could someone post the correct link?


6 posted on 06/25/2014 6:59:06 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: F15Eagle; Gamecock

The story is on the CP web site but I had to change the title because I doubted it would fit.


7 posted on 06/25/2014 7:00:59 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Please ping me when you have a working link. Thanks.


8 posted on 06/25/2014 7:05:38 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: Faith Presses On

No performance like Obama since Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Gasoline will be up a buck very soon.


9 posted on 06/25/2014 7:09:20 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Faith Presses On

About 10,000 SBC pastors strongly condemn homosexuality, but one guy is shown as “proof” that pastors support gay marriage.


10 posted on 06/25/2014 7:11:10 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Faith Presses On

Don’t know a thing about how the SBC is structured or how it operates do you?


11 posted on 06/25/2014 7:11:14 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Faith Presses On; GiovannaNicoletta; F15Eagle; .45 Long Colt; Buddygirl; Former Fetus; Bockscar; ...

Baptist ping with a link

http://www.christianpost.com/news/white-house-invites-pastor-of-southern-baptist-church-which-broke-rank-on-homosexuality-to-reception-with-president-122202/


12 posted on 06/25/2014 7:12:06 PM PDT by WKB
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To: upchuck

See post 12


13 posted on 06/25/2014 7:14:37 PM PDT by WKB
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To: Faith Presses On
link???. I'm trying the link again.
14 posted on 06/25/2014 7:17:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Fido969

I’m not SBC but from what I understand, all churches are independent, but to belong to the convention, they have to share some fundamental beliefs based on taking God at His Word in the Bible. Churches that turn aside from that have been and should be expelled. The SBC met recently and did nothing on this church, and in fact passed the buck to possibly the state part of the SBC and tabled a motion on it.


15 posted on 06/25/2014 7:24:06 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

A link to a thread I posted about the SBC’s failure to act this month:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3167309/posts

I was disappointed the SBC ‘leadership’ prevented any action from being taken.


16 posted on 06/25/2014 7:31:54 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Faith Presses On

Southern Baptists remain resolute in our stance on homosexuality. Rome hid pedophile priests for years but no sane person believes she is actually pro-pedophila. Likewise the SBC isn’t softening on sodomy. The situation with the renegade congregation will be handled in due time. Just because you don’t understand how we operate you must not leap to conclusions and pretend there was some sort of moral failing at the annual convention.


17 posted on 06/25/2014 7:32:14 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Faith Presses On

A little leaven, leavens the entire loaf.

And with this Homo agenda - everything we are seeing was already illustrated for us as to what will happen when wickedness is not put in check back in Genesis 19.


18 posted on 06/25/2014 7:39:09 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Faith Presses On; F15Eagle

http://global.christianpost.com/news/white-house-invites-pastor-of-southern-baptist-church-which-broke-rank-on-homosexuality-to-reception-with-president-122202/


19 posted on 06/25/2014 7:39:31 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Fido969

Our president must be homosexual to do this. I know I’ve read that before, but now I believe it.


20 posted on 06/25/2014 7:50:43 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: WKB; Faith Presses On

Thanks for the ping WKB.


21 posted on 06/25/2014 8:03:33 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: Faith Presses On
After a period of prayer, study and discernment, which also included hearing from gay and straight teachers on both sides of the homosexuality debate, the church voted in May not to dismiss Cortez and instead become a "Third Way" church.

IMHO, this church in California was lost before they made this decision.

Bye.

22 posted on 06/25/2014 8:07:07 PM PDT by upchuck (Everyday, Joe Wilson becomes more correct!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Each church is in charge of their affairs. There is the SBC which is in charge of all the churches overall. A national meeting is held each year and each state has a yearly meeting. Each church votes on their ministerial staff. I know some other churches have no say about their pastor and staff. Our pastor has been here since about 1978.


23 posted on 06/25/2014 8:10:50 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: .45 Long Colt

My church is SBC. We do not accept homosexuality as a normal lifestyle. While we would not turn one away, we would strongly feel that once they came to Christ, they would have to see this as sin and allow the work of the HS to change them. I realize it would be a process, but I do not believe that we would knowingly allow a homosexual to be a deacon, SS teacher, etc. No positions of authority or leadership. Same as we would do if we found a “straight” person living in another sexual sin, as adultery. The Bible is pretty adamant about that.


24 posted on 06/25/2014 8:14:03 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Shery

Of course. I get tired of people who aren’t Baptists taking shots at the SBC. They don’t understand that each congregation is independent. That’s part of what makes us Baptists. As a convention we haven’t wavered one iota on homosexuality, or sexual sin in general. In due time that aberrant congregation will be dealt with if there is no repentance, but there is an orderly process that will be followed.


25 posted on 06/25/2014 8:19:33 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: MamaB

Exactly


26 posted on 06/25/2014 8:20:03 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Faith Presses On

Bind Demonic attacks against Christians in Jesus name.

Deception by Pastors that don’t preach the truth is just as bad as Satan lying to people himself!


27 posted on 06/25/2014 8:21:39 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: .45 Long Colt

I think the SBC in general has been lax on their outward support of Israel. I’ve contacted the SBC and the State Association. Taking pastors on tours of Israel is nice but. . . .


28 posted on 06/25/2014 10:36:54 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: .45 Long Colt; Faith Presses On
17 Southern Baptists remain resolute in our stance on homosexuality. Rome hid pedophile priests for years but no sane person believes she is actually pro-pedophila. Likewise the SBC isn’t softening on sodomy. The situation with the renegade congregation will be handled in due time. Just because you don’t understand how we operate you must not leap to conclusions and pretend there was some sort of moral failing at the annual convention.

What .45 Long Colt said ...

Albert Mohler Jr., 6/19/2014 - Baptist Polity and the Integrity of the Southern Baptist Convention

Long article by Albert Mohler Jr., president of the SBC Theological Seminary in Lexington, KY. Excerpt below ...

"...A church that is recognized by the Convention as a participating church is a congregation that contributes to the causes of the Convention and is in “friendly cooperation” with it. The SBC Constitution states: “Among churches not in friendly cooperation with the Convention are churches which act to affirm, approve, or endorse homosexual behavior.” Thus, a church that takes any such action effectively removes itself from being “in friendly cooperation” with the SBC.

But this does not mean that the Convention does not have a responsibility to act on its own authority. In 1992 the SBC voted to withdraw fellowship from Pullen Memorial Baptist Church in Raleigh, NC and Binkley Memorial Baptist Church in neighboring Chapel Hill. Both churches had taken actions that endorsed homosexuality. In 2009, the Convention acted again to remove fellowship from Broadway Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX, on the same grounds.

As the 2014 meeting of the Convention approached, a 4th congregation, New Heart Community Church in La Mirada, CA, took a similar action. In this case, the congregation voted to retain its pastor after he announced that he had changed his understanding of same-sex relationships and behaviors. Pastor Danny Cortez acknowledged that his affirmation of homosexuality was a “radical shift” from the congregation’s stated position and the denomination’s confession of faith. He led the congregation to adopt a self-identification as a “Third Way” fellowship, allowing for multiple understandings of same-sex behaviors and relationships. That led to a schism within the congregation, with more conservative members leaving.

All this came to the Convention’s attention just days before the meeting in Baltimore. On JUN 2, I published an article alerting Southern Baptists to the development and making clear that the Convention now faces a duty to protect the integrity of its own confession of faith and integrity of fellowship. Further, I argued that there is no “Third Way” on the issue. Eventually, every church and denomination will have to decide if it will recognize or conduct same-sex unions. That moment of decision will come sooner, rather than later.

In Baltimore, the SBC did not act on the question, and for an understandable reason. The issues erupted just days before the Convention met, and there was no time for the Convention to come to a clear understanding of New Heart Community Church’s actual relationship, if any, to the Southern Baptist Convention.

Like many Southern Baptists, I was frustrated that the SBC could not and did not act during the meeting in Baltimore, though I fully understand why. I have no doubt that the Convention will act decisively and rightly at its earliest opportunity.

As the Convention gathered in Baltimore, there was a very real question about the nature and status of New Heart Community Church. An official with the California Southern Baptist Convention said that the congregation is actually a mission of a parent church that does not affirm the mission’s revolt on this issue. If so, that issue needs to be clarified immediately and the “mother” church must act decisively to discipline the mission, assert its own leadership, and demand confessional integrity. If the mission continues in its revolt, that parent church must either repudiate the mission and sever fellowship, or it will violate its own confessional integrity and effectively remove itself from “friendly cooperation” with the SBC. ...

... Autonomy implies responsibility, and every general Baptist body related to New Heart Community Church now faces the responsibility to act. I am confident that the Southern Baptist Convention will act rightly. I am hopeful that the Los Angeles Southern Baptist Association and the California Southern Baptist Convention will act with equal clarity and resolution.

There is always sadness when fellowship must be withdrawn, but if New Heart Community Church does not repent and return to agreement with our convictions and confession of faith, the failure to withdraw that fellowship will be nothing less than a tragic abdication of responsibility and a violation of theological integrity. The moment of decision will not be long delayed."

29 posted on 06/25/2014 10:59:57 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: .45 Long Colt

>> Of course. I get tired of people who aren’t Baptists taking shots at the SBC.<<

Yes! That’s exactly how I feel being Catholic! You’ll probably be told you should quit the SBC because now you’re condoning it if you stay a member.


30 posted on 06/26/2014 3:44:01 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Mr Rogers

Nothing new under the sun.

Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. - Isaiah 29:13-14

This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. - Matthew 15:8

I was disappointed the SBC ‘leadership’ prevented any action from being taken. - Mr. Rogers 6/25/14

The human condition hasn’t changed since the Expulsion. They haven’t built upon the Rock.


31 posted on 06/26/2014 6:27:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: .45 Long Colt

The Lord knows if I’m pretending something here or not.


32 posted on 06/26/2014 7:53:41 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: .45 Long Colt

Actually I was part of a conservative Baptist church in the Northeast for years, and I keep up with the church, so I understand that each SBC church is independent - to a point. So if this church is to be dealt with eventually, where is all the concern from the leadership now? I’m not against the SBC at all, but these days words and actions have to be looked at closely, because this is a time that some masks are being taken off and some people are “evolving,” and leadership these days tend to be more like the followers and sheep, pleasing their congregations. One other thing, too, is that the body of Christ isn’t divided, as Paul said. Whatever is done in the Lord’s name is every Christian’s concern.


33 posted on 06/26/2014 8:02:16 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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