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Closed Church gets New Life as Islamic Center (Yes, that's the headline)
Winona Daily News (Minnesota) ^ | June 29, 2014 | AP Staffer

Posted on 06/29/2014 6:36:59 PM PDT by rabidralph

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — One of the oldest Catholic churches in St. Paul had to close down because of a dwindling congregation, but it's been given new life as an Islamic community center.

The Church of St. John parish, built in 1886, closed in 2013. It reopened Friday as the Darul-Uloom Islamic Center, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported (http://bit.ly/1z0o5In ).

"There are a lot of East Africans in the area, and we want to give them a place to worship, a place to be educated, a community space," center spokesman Feisal M. Elmi said.

The former church held its last Mass in the summer of 2013, and has been vacant ever since. The congregation merged with the one at nearby St. Pascal's Church.

(Excerpt) Read more at winonadailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: anticatholic; deathofthewest; foreignfunding; globaljihad; islam; islamicimperialism; lifeamongthekufir; minnesota; mn; muslimamericans; muslims; somali; somalia; somalis; stpaul; victorymosque
Catholic church is converted into a muslim community center. The town rejoices at the diversity.
1 posted on 06/29/2014 6:36:59 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
Life in the land of the frostbit brain.
2 posted on 06/29/2014 6:39:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rabidralph

Didn’t they bring a bunch of Somalis into the area?

Government dollars at work. Making the country more dangerous every day.


3 posted on 06/29/2014 6:39:15 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: rabidralph

May Sharia Law rest lightly on your headless shoulders.


4 posted on 06/29/2014 6:39:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: rabidralph

G-d does not live in a building made by man. A stone structure is just that. It can be turned into a night club or whatever. G-d is where people are gathered to worship Him and Yashua and it makes no difference what sort of covering they’re under, from a tent to a cathedral ...


5 posted on 06/29/2014 6:40:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: rabidralph

God taught us to choose life. It appears a Minnesota town’s choosing death. Ungood.


6 posted on 06/29/2014 6:41:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: TigerClaws

Yes, they have been importing Somalis for some time now. I don’t know why.


7 posted on 06/29/2014 6:42:10 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: SkyDancer

Yes, I understand that, but still, the news is shocking, to me.


8 posted on 06/29/2014 6:42:55 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL! They’ll get there.


9 posted on 06/29/2014 6:43:45 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph

Warkland?


10 posted on 06/29/2014 6:45:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rabidralph

Caliph Baraq was in Minnesota on Friday!

Was he there to dedicate the new mosque?


11 posted on 06/29/2014 6:45:16 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Salvation

Oops that should have been
Waekland?


12 posted on 06/29/2014 6:46:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: rabidralph

I used to live right by that beautiful church. Back when there wasn’t much diversity beyond Scandinavians, Italians and Poles. And everybody had real jobs.


13 posted on 06/29/2014 6:48:22 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rabidralph

Lots of Middle Easterners since the 1970’s. Had my first gyros there, and it wasn’t Greek, was called something different, same thing; it was some kind of Arabs and really good. Also Palestinians. The Somalis are more recent.


14 posted on 06/29/2014 6:48:45 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: rabidralph

15 posted on 06/29/2014 6:50:21 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: rabidralph

Another new outpost for the newly created caliphate.


16 posted on 06/29/2014 6:51:55 PM PDT by all the best
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To: rabidralph

Oh, Christians helping Muslims establish a Caliphate. Interesting muslims don’t help out Christians in Muslim countries. Huh, Christian compassion is naive by doing this.


17 posted on 06/29/2014 7:05:35 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: rabidralph
Closed Church gets New Life as Islamic Center Armory.

There, fixed it.

18 posted on 06/29/2014 7:05:59 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: SkyDancer

So no problems with muzzies taking over a Catholic Church, eh? St. Paul - the new Mosul, church by bloody church.


19 posted on 06/29/2014 7:58:12 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: rabidralph

Islam has nothing to do with life.


20 posted on 06/29/2014 8:00:22 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Once a denomination leaves a building it’s no longer part of their denomination. Didn’t you read what I wrote? And in answer to your question, what had the Catholic administration done to keep it Catholic? There’s a Catholic church in Italy that has been abandoned for over 30 years because of an earthquake that killed 3,000 of the town’s inhabitants. It’s a wreck. Is it still a church? The Bible describes the church as the people not the building.


21 posted on 06/29/2014 8:06:19 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: rabidralph

You know, I think really the bigger part of the story is how the Catholic parish’s attendance declined to below having a critical mass.

We can complain all day about other religions “taking over”, but all they’re doing is filling a void if we’re not taking care of our own churches. People out there are STARVED spiritually, even if they aren’t aware of it. You see that every day with the cultural decay. They’ll go to what ever port in a storm that they see. The question is 1) are we going to keep our own, and also show others the positive aspects of Christianity and welcome them in, or 2) let someone else show them the “answers.”

Not to be abrasive about it, but it’s really that simple. We can’t just play defense trying to keep what few people are left in the church, but we need to go out into the world and bring new people in. I’m not just talking about funding missionaries out in the third world—that’s all well and good, but I’m talking about just the people next door in your own neighborhood.


23 posted on 06/29/2014 8:30:40 PM PDT by ksm1
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To: rabidralph

Why not??? They are all brothers...


24 posted on 06/29/2014 8:55:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: rabidralph

And why can’t we stop the importing of people who will never assimilate?


25 posted on 06/29/2014 10:10:16 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: rabidralph

Good Golly, Somali!


26 posted on 06/29/2014 10:46:19 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: ksm1; SkyDancer

And I have no idea about the growth/decline of the Catholic church (or any Christian) in the overall Minneapolis/Minnesota area - but neighborhoods change. And it is just a building. The only thing is that the Catholics and the Protestants (in the US anyway) don’t shoot each other or throw bombs. The muslims.....?


27 posted on 06/29/2014 10:53:42 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

“The only thing is that the Catholics and the Protestants (in the US anyway) don’t shoot each other or throw bombs.”

They don’t need to. They have Freerepublic:-)


28 posted on 06/30/2014 1:33:01 AM PDT by Diapason
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To: SkyDancer

You mean Jesus.


29 posted on 06/30/2014 2:11:26 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ksm1

AMEN!


30 posted on 06/30/2014 2:13:09 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: miss marmelstein

Sad, but true.


31 posted on 06/30/2014 2:15:06 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Big difference is that in America, Americans are armed to the teeth.


32 posted on 06/30/2014 2:15:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Diapason

That gave me a chuckle. Sort of. I used to be pretty anti-Catholic. As I’ve gotten older I’ve come to appreciate some of their stuff, and come to let some of it slide- partly on my own lack of knowledge. And a lot of that has been due to some of the more thoughtful Catholic posters on FR.

At some point we will need to put those differences behind us to combat the Liberals in our government, and at some point those who practice Islam.


33 posted on 06/30/2014 4:24:56 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: ksm1

Yep.

I know (or knew) that neighborhood. It’s a big old stone cathedral that’s simply too expensive to maintain in any dignity. Parishioners with comfortable incomes long ago moved to suburbs.

A few years in the hands of Third World muzzies and the place will have to be demolished.


34 posted on 06/30/2014 5:28:29 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: rabidralph

the sadly funny thing is that at least in our area, Catholic Charities started bringing in muzzies in order to keep their Refugee resettlement arm alive after the end of the Vietnam war refugees.

No bureaucracy ever dies. But they do kill their hosts.


35 posted on 06/30/2014 5:33:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: ksm1

It’s more of the so-called “New Springtime” of Vatican II.


36 posted on 06/30/2014 5:50:49 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Biggirl

Yashua is the Hebrew name for Jesus.


37 posted on 06/30/2014 6:12:34 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes, that is true, but also expressing the reality of the graft branch.


38 posted on 06/30/2014 7:50:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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