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To: Ransomed

“All on one side and most on the other don’t believe that, as far as I can tell.”

And that is the point. A person who has studied Scripture can read what God says about marriage. For many others, the god of this world is big and bigger government. They like it that way because they can bend government to advance their beliefs, and when government decrees something, it establishes a moral force in their minds.

When I post what I did elsewhere, I sometimes get pushback from people who claim they are Christian but who look to government to “protect” marriage. The truth is that the more godly aspects of our lives (like marriage and charity) that we turn over to government, the more power over our lives we cede to it. We are amazed when we wake up to the monster we have allowed to put us in chains.

In this case the chains are in part that government will demand, backed up by the credible threat of deadly force, that we accept a definition of marriage that not only is contrary to God’s definition, but is intended in part to insult and marginalize people who accept God in their lives. Since when would anything think that “marriage” could be used as a weapon to help destroy society?

That day has arrived, at least in some jurisdictions that determine that it is a crime to decline to enable same-sex marriage by refusing to sell the happy couple wedding cakes or photography services.

To advance the legal case that a marriage between two people of the same sex is no different than a marriage as God defines it, the US Justice Department will base their arguments before the Supreme Court that a child does not need, nor have a right to a mother. [1]

Curiously, when advocates of gay marriage are asked if their policy also would allow polygamy or polyandry, they recoil in horror and insist that it does not. However, logic demands that it does. I would ask how same-sex parents are going to react in the future when, for example, Utah public schools officials require that teachers instruct the children that Mormon-related polygamy is just as “normal” as same-sex “marriage”. The fact that this will be an issue will show yet again that gay “marriage” is not about marriage at all it is about forcing the rest of us to approve of repugnant sexual immorality, something that LDS polygamists never demanded.

[1] DOJ: Children Do Not Need—and Have No Right to—Mothers March 3, 2013 By Terence P. Jeffrey
http://tinyurl.com/blcyj9u


25 posted on 06/30/2014 6:12:41 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

“They like it that way because they can bend government to advance their beliefs, and when government decrees something, it establishes a moral force in their minds.”

“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

—Pope Leo XIII, 1880

To the state, marriage is simply whatever judges, pols or the voting public think it can be at any one time. That’s it, that’s all it will ever be to the state.

“I sometimes get pushback from people who claim they are Christian but who look to government to “protect” marriage.”

That’s because anyone who thinks this way about the state and marriage is obviously a raging pro-gay marriage libertarian just like Pope Leo XIII. Or something.

FReegards


27 posted on 06/30/2014 6:30:08 AM PDT by Ransomed
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