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Hobby Lobby Verdict a Victory For Ultra-Right Catholic Co-Conspirators With Chuck Colsonís Ghost
Patheos.com ^ | 7/1/14 | Frank Schaeffer

Posted on 07/01/2014 6:27:01 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis must have vomited when he heard the Hobby Lobby news. Nothing could undo the good he has recently done the Church’s image more than yet another case of anti-woman lashing out by a cabal or far right Roman Catholic activists– this time in the Supreme Court.

Alarmed by the Supreme Court pandering to the extreme religious right in the Hobby Lobby case, the new pope might ask “Who is responsible for this?” The answer is: Many people. However two people are the real instigators: the late evangelical far right activist, Charles Colson, and Roman Catholic far right ideologue and anti-gay activist, Princeton Professor Robert George. Their tool has been Justice Antonin Scalia the other Roman Catholic members of the Court.

George is a close friend and co-conspirator with fellow ultra-conservative far right Roman Catholic ideologues including with Scalia who became the ringleader of the GOP’s Court-driven Hobby Lobby lunge into theocratic politics. George is the de facto father of the twinned war against gays and war against women. Scalia is his follower and close friend. And George has the support of the U.S. Roman Catholic bishops, the Mormon leadership and the most conservative of the evangelical leaders. Charles Colson was George’s close confident. Together they hatched the plan that in the end (and after Colson died) became the Hobby Lobby case.

Way back when, the late Charles “Chuck” Colson teamed up with George of to launch the dirty tricks campaign to brand President Obama as “anti-religious.” They decided to use the issue of contraception as the hinge to turn people against him.

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No, this is not humor and yes, I know this screed is deranged but it's good to be aware of the depth of anti-Christian hatred simmering in this country. Notice the absence of reasoned argument and the reliance on demonizing and name-calling. We're all evil conspirators.

The persecution is coming.

1 posted on 07/01/2014 6:27:01 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
We're all evil conspirators.

First, I never received the memo. Second, do we get name tags or something? Last, will there be a picnic so that we may mingle and share strategies on conspiring to annoy Progressives?
2 posted on 07/01/2014 6:30:08 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: marshmallow

The demons are screaming incessantly that they have had to take a step back from forcing God’s people to comply with Satan’s will.


3 posted on 07/01/2014 6:31:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Army Air Corps

People who say this wasn’t an important decision should look at the left’s reaction to it and re-think that.

This really enraged them that they can’t force everyone to participate in chemical baby murder.

I assert that this was one of the primary motivations of Obamacare. There was even a clause in it that required “$1 of every premium payment be allocated to abortion services”.

Why do you think that is? To make everyone participate against their will and against obedience to God.


4 posted on 07/01/2014 6:34:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marshmallow

Schaeffer is out of touch with reality.


5 posted on 07/01/2014 6:35:01 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: marshmallow

Al Qaeda has less hatred for Christians than these people.


6 posted on 07/01/2014 6:35:22 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: Viennacon

The primary goals of the ACA are anti-Christian.


7 posted on 07/01/2014 6:36:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marshmallow

This”Decision”would have been UnNecessary were it not for Roberts’ calling”The Individual Mandate”a”TAX”!!This is UnConstitutional because ObongoCare “originated”in The Senate.All bills for the purpose of raising revenue(taxes/for those of you in Rio Linda),MUST Originate in The House of Representatives.If you don’t believe me,check out Article 1/Section 7 of The US Constitution!!!!!


8 posted on 07/01/2014 6:36:34 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure glad you clarified your position posting this


9 posted on 07/01/2014 6:38:15 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: marshmallow

The author has fallen so far from the faith and good values of his father, it’s pathetic.


10 posted on 07/01/2014 6:39:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: darkangel82

The author of “Why I am an atheist who believes in God? I think he and reality parted company a long time ago.


11 posted on 07/01/2014 6:40:21 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: marshmallow

This article reminds me of the possessed girl in “The Exorcist” when splashed with Holy Water.


12 posted on 07/01/2014 6:40:34 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: marshmallow

From the article:
The far right ideologues who turned depriving women of contraceptives into a “religious liberty” issue were counting on trying to get their “case” before at least 4 Supreme Court Justices that have a right wing Catholic worldview –Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas. And they just won.

A good Segway into the truth about Hobby Lobby. Although they offer other avenues of contraception to their employees, they would not support the mandated abortion and abortifacients (Morning after pill). It that simple because they are a closely held (family) business that believes and lives their religion in their business. They even play religious music in their stores. (And not just at Christmas!)

God bless them.

PS. This does not apply to corporations, etc. as the libs would have you believe.


13 posted on 07/01/2014 6:43:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MrB

I agree. Most of the Leftists that I know are absolutely apoplectic. Many of them are now screaming that this creates a “right wing Christian tyranny” or that somehow this decision will result in women dying in the streets by the thousands (”Women are now going to be denied health care!”).


14 posted on 07/01/2014 6:43:37 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: marshmallow

What I see in this is fear that their own tactics are being used against them,and successfully.

It’s quite humorous.

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15 posted on 07/01/2014 6:43:40 AM PDT by Mears
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To: marshmallow
Frank Schaffer is a member of the Hollyweird elite (writer and director) and is close to being a case study in parent-child reaction. As the son of Francis Schaeffer (30 January 1912 – 15 May 1984), an American Evangelical Christian theologian, philosopher, and Presbyterian pastor, this son is now a Greek Orthodox convert. In 2007, Frank Schaeffer published an autobiography, Crazy for God: How I Grew Up As One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back.
16 posted on 07/01/2014 6:46:21 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: marshmallow

Oh, my!


17 posted on 07/01/2014 6:47:34 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marshmallow

He starts with a reference to Pope and the movie The Excorist, then devolves into an abyss of irrationally. Perhaps lithium would help.


18 posted on 07/01/2014 6:49:05 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Army Air Corps

What I don’t get is that they think that “women” are so helpless that they can’t choose where they want to work.


19 posted on 07/01/2014 6:49:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marshmallow

“Who is responsible for this?”

Anti-Christian Barack Obama and excommunicated Catholic Kathleen Sibelius. Simple answer.


20 posted on 07/01/2014 6:50:41 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Army Air Corps
I made a badge for us eeeevil Christians to wear.


21 posted on 07/01/2014 6:53:02 AM PDT by red-dawg
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To: circlecity
This article reminds me of the possessed girl in “The Exorcist” when splashed with Holy Water.

That's funny. I had a similar image, but from a VERY different movie.

We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.--St. Thomas Moore, "A Man for All Seasons"
22 posted on 07/01/2014 6:56:08 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: marshmallow
ultra-conservative far right Roman Catholic ideologues

Not enough punch in that phrasing ... perhaps adding "extreme" would polish it off nicely.
23 posted on 07/01/2014 6:57:15 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: Raycpa
"abyss of irrationality" explained here:

Romans 1:28-32
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.

24 posted on 07/01/2014 6:57:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: marshmallow

When I first read this I honestly thought it was satire, a mocking of the moonbat left wing. It is obviously not satire, sadly, but it is certainly demonic.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 6:58:43 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: marshmallow; xzins; Gamecock

Boy did this nut ever fall far from the tree.

I would think all those Catholics that rejoiced at his conversion to Catholicism are wondering if they can throw this fish back into the sea.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 6:58:49 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: marshmallow
The persecution is coming.

It is already here. It just hasn't gotten really physical yet, but they will get to that soon enough. Keep your powder dry.

27 posted on 07/01/2014 7:01:45 AM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be screwed by the fickle finger of fate)
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To: marshmallow
a cabal or far right Roman Catholic activists

This Is a little confusing. Many Catholics support the Obama policies. Illegal immigrants, welfare, social services, big government, etc.

But when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, etc., Catholics are the biggest enemies of the Obama policies.

28 posted on 07/01/2014 7:02:11 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: MrB

I think it might be more of a matter that certain people would prefer to “level the playing” field such that...

if someone ultimately decides to go off the welfare rolls and actually becomes employed...

they would rather that such “work” would be equal to welfare and...

not really require any physical/mental ^effort^ to gain a paycheck. All the while complaininig that their employer doesn’t “pay” any better than welfare. (Can you say “McDonald’s”?)

IOW, if the government will pay me to sit on my a$$ and abort my sexual indiscretions for free, why shouldn’t my employer do the same. To wit, every employer should operate like the nanny-state government but pay much better than welfare.

Let’s all review the Rise & Fall of the CCCP.


29 posted on 07/01/2014 7:04:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: marshmallow
He looks as peaceful and loving as he writes.
30 posted on 07/01/2014 7:05:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Dr. Sivana
"We must just pray that when your head's finished turning, your face is to the front again.--St. Thomas Moore, "A Man for All Seasons"

Great line! I'll be putting that one firmly in my back pocket, ready to pull out to devestating effect during the inevitible agrument which will arise offering the perfect opportunity.

31 posted on 07/01/2014 7:06:18 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: dangus

Anyone else curious what his NCR screen name is?


32 posted on 07/01/2014 7:07:12 AM PDT by dangus
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To: bandleader
You are right, of course, but even more fundamentally, it is not a Supreme Court Justice's job to rewrite the law.

Roberts had to rewrite the law to rule on the 'tax', because it was, in fact, a penalty, and it had been repeatedly stated that the penalty was not a tax by the selfsame legislators who pushed the measure.

33 posted on 07/01/2014 7:10:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: marshmallow

Name Religion Appt. by On the Court since
John Roberts (Chief Justice) Roman Catholic G.W. Bush 2005
Antonin Scalia Roman Catholic Reagan 1986
Anthony Kennedy Roman Catholic Reagan 1988
Clarence Thomas Roman Catholic G.H.W. Bush 1991
Ruth Bader Ginsburg Jewish Clinton 1993
Stephen Breyer Jewish Clinton 1994
Samuel Alito Roman Catholic G.W. Bush 2006
Sonia Sotomayor Roman Catholic Obama 2009
Elena Kagan Jewish Obama 2010

34 posted on 07/01/2014 7:11:00 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: MrB

One dollar.

I guess that’s how much a pinch of incense for divine Caesar costs these days.

The Left demand worship of the state - and of their master, the devil. They have been denied. This is why they are shrieking.


35 posted on 07/01/2014 7:11:23 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Viennacon
My theory is that Satan encourages competition among his lieutenants.

A demon called “Allah” has a plan. Some other high ranking demon runs world socialism in all its forms.

They compete with each other, but they never lose sight of the Enemy.

36 posted on 07/01/2014 7:33:47 AM PDT by chesley
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To: oldbrowser
But when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, etc., Catholics are the biggest enemies of the Obama policies.

I disagree with making that generalization. Although my observations are anecdotal, some of the biggest PRO abortion and gay marriage advocates that I know are Catholics.

As with a large number of American Jews, many Catholics place political ideology above their religion.

Which is very perplexing for me. Although I do not consider myself a religious person, I believe that if one is truly religious, then those beliefs and principles must take precedence over everything else. I also believe that a religion of any sincere, humanitarian value does not advocate murdering babies and repressing the liberties of people. Nor does it advocate despotic government and the forced subjugation of the populace.

37 posted on 07/01/2014 7:36:24 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: marshmallow
The persecution is coming.

Then they had better be well armed and willing to die for their fanatical & perverted ideologies.

I am coming to believe that there is a breaking point for those that are the objects of their sick hatred. The only thing in question is when that point will be reached.

38 posted on 07/01/2014 7:39:34 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: chesley

You nailed it. “Allah” is only the Devil masquerading as a god. Jesus warned us of such.

Muzzies themselves believe it is impossible to approach “Allah” with prayer. “Inshallah!” is their only hope. This “Allah” has the attributes of a demon, IMO, because his worshippers kill and kill and kill in hopes of pleasing him, in fact they see killing “infidels” as their only sure route to “paradise”.

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”


39 posted on 07/01/2014 7:41:35 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: marshmallow
ohmygosh...it's getting impossible to do satire anymore, with stuff like this passing as truth. This is no victory for the ultra-right contingent (and many other religious people) because ObamaCare still forces paying for birth control.

It's a victory for everyone who believes in "Thou shalt not kill". It only defunds abortion methods.

40 posted on 07/01/2014 7:45:50 AM PDT by grania
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To: marshmallow
"Those who are not with Me are against Me" - Matthew 12:30

Gee, sounds pretty extremist. I guess Jesus wasn't much into relativism.

41 posted on 07/01/2014 7:55:53 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: dangus
He looks as peaceful and loving as he writes.

What is that he is holding -- knitting needles? Is he prepared to do abortions in his barn?

42 posted on 07/01/2014 8:12:33 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: dangus
Anyone else curious what his NCR screen name is?

"Frank Lee Hysterical"?
"Sploded"?
"StinkEyeSchaeff"?
"D.Lusionalef T"?
"Bay B. Pouting"?

43 posted on 07/01/2014 8:19:10 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are g"?few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Bratch
Never knew much about Breyer until I read your convenient Wikipedia link. Hoo, boy:

Judicial philosophy...: Purposive approach

Breyer's pragmatic approach to the law "will tend to make the law more sensible"; according to Cass Sunstein, Breyer's "attack on originalism is powerful and convincing." In 2006, Breyer said that in assessing a law's constitutionality, while some of his colleagues "emphasize language, a more literal reading of the [Constitution's] text, history and tradition," he looks more closely to the "purpose and consequences." [emphases mine]


44 posted on 07/01/2014 8:25:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are g"?few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: marshmallow

Frank Schaeffer is Eastern Orthodox.


45 posted on 07/01/2014 8:28:54 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: marshmallow
the left is becoming unhinged
46 posted on 07/01/2014 8:31:00 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Boy did this nut ever fall far from the tree.

I would think all those Catholics that rejoiced at his conversion to Catholicism are wondering if they can throw this fish back into the sea.

Schaeffer converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, not Catholicism.

47 posted on 07/01/2014 8:32:12 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Zionist Conspirator

‘On October 10, 2008, a public letter to Senator John McCain and Sarah Palin from Schaeffer was published in the Baltimore Sun newspaper.[8] The letter contained an impassioned plea for McCain to arrest what Schaeffer perceived as a hateful and prejudiced tone of the Republican Party’s election campaign. Schaeffer was convinced that there was a pronounced danger that fringe groups in America could be goaded into pursuing violence. “If you do not stand up for all that is good in America and declare that Senator Obama is a patriot, fit for office, and denounce your hate-filled supporters ... history will hold you responsible for all that follows.”’

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer


48 posted on 07/01/2014 8:35:02 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They’re Catholics.


49 posted on 07/01/2014 8:52:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“The author has fallen so far from the faith and good values of his father, it’s pathetic.”

Yes, but I find it interesting that these types often come from a supposed Christian hothouse, where they should have flowered instead of withering. I have some sympathy for children of famous men. Often the cult surrounding their parents hides the humanity that the Scriptures blatantly lay bare (see: King David).

To these people the disconnect between the fame cult and reality is unbearable. Imagine all the fawning phony baloney that must have gone on at La Brie! Ever been to a retreat with a beloved preacher? Nice place to visit...

I hope Frank gets “surprised” along the way by The Lord.


50 posted on 07/01/2014 8:53:29 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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