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Was Dietrich Bonhoeffer gay? A new biography raises questions
Religion News ^ | 07/05/2014 | Sarah Pulliam Bailey

Posted on 07/07/2014 8:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A new biography is raising questions about the life and relationships of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, an anti-Nazi dissident whose theological writings remain widely influential among Christians.

Both left-leaning and right-leaning Christians herald the life and writings of Bonhoeffer, who was hanged for his involvement in the unsuccessful plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in 1944. Bonhoeffer was engaged to a woman at the time of his execution, observing that he had lived a full life even though he would die a virgin.

The new biography, “Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer,” from University of Virginia religious studies professor Charles Marsh, implies that Bonhoeffer may have had a same-sex attraction to his student, friend and later biographer Eberhard Bethge.

“There will be blood among American evangelicals over Mr. Marsh’s claim,” Christian Wiman, who teaches at the Yale Institute of Sacred Music, wrote in a review for The Wall Street Journal. But there’s been no bloodbath yet, at least considering a few initial reviews.

“Marsh makes a convincing case that Bonhoeffer harbored feelings for Bethge that extended beyond friendship,” writes Timothy Larsen, a professor of Christian thought at evangelical Wheaton College, in a book review for Christianity Today. “Those feelings were unrequited, and Bonhoeffer probably did not consciously acknowledge them. Still, Marsh notes, he was possessive and smothering in his attention.”

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TOPICS: History; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bonhoeffer; dietrichbonhoeffer; gay; homosexuality

1 posted on 07/07/2014 8:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Well, which is it? Is being gay OK? Or not OK? Make up your mind!
2 posted on 07/07/2014 8:20:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hate it when the liberals make out everyone in the past to have been gay. In recent years this was done with Alexander Hamilton and Abraham Lincoln too.


3 posted on 07/07/2014 8:21:20 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: SeekAndFind

Co-opt the dead.

They can’t confirm or deny...


4 posted on 07/07/2014 8:22:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: vladimir998
Joan Rivers is doing it to Obama and Michele now.

Whoops. Progressives/Liberal are supposed to do it to Conservatives and Christians, not other progs/libs.

5 posted on 07/07/2014 8:25:05 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not take the opportunity to push the gay agenda even further?


6 posted on 07/07/2014 8:28:08 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind

Revelation 14

The Lamb and the 144,000 on Mount Zion

14 Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, like the sound of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder, and the voice which I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth. 4 These are the ones who have not been defiled with women, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb. 5 And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.


7 posted on 07/07/2014 8:33:26 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: SeekAndFind
Both left-leaning and right-leaning Christians herald the life and writings of Bonhoeffer, who was hanged for his involvement in the unsuccessful plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in 1944. Bonhoeffer was engaged to a woman at the time of his execution, observing that he had lived a full life even though he would die a virgin. The new biography, “Strange Glory: A Life of Dietrich Bonhoeffer,” from University of Virginia religious studies professor Charles Marsh, implies that Bonhoeffer may have had a same-sex attraction to his student, friend and later biographer Eberhard Bethge....

....“Marsh makes a convincing case that Bonhoeffer harbored feelings for Bethge that extended beyond friendship,” writes Timothy Larsen, a professor of Christian thought at evangelical Wheaton College, in a book review for Christianity Today. “Those feelings were unrequited, and Bonhoeffer probably did not consciously acknowledge them. Still, Marsh notes, he was possessive and smothering in his attention.”

Coming soon to your local Family or Lifeway Christian Bookstore: "secret homosexual" biographies.

8 posted on 07/07/2014 8:33:42 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: SeekAndFind

Strange how all the great men of the past become gay upon their death. This is nothing but rank speculation and fantasy of the worst sort.

Ps 133:1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

The basis for Bonhoeffer’s book “Life Together”

But the lefties must take all that is good and attempt to sexualize and pervert it to fit their own ends.


9 posted on 07/07/2014 8:33:53 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: SeekAndFind

Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a brave man of principle. A good man. He worked diligently to make sure that the world would know that there was a German church that was not twisted and polluted by the Nazi vermin as so many were in that era. That is what should be remembered about him. God forbid that we should ever get to the point where we burn books in our country, but if we do we should start with this vile, and I do mean vile, professor’s vile book.

The gathering storm that is the homosexual agenda has many tentacles. Notably the pederasts, and it now comes to this.


10 posted on 07/07/2014 8:35:16 AM PDT by RushLake (Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles. (Emerson))
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To: SeekAndFind

Just curious. I wonder if there are any passages in “Dreams from My Father” or the “Audacity of Hope” that could be interpreted and construed to be latently or blatantly HOMOSEXUAL in nature.


11 posted on 07/07/2014 8:40:42 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind
"...University of Virginia religious studies professor..."

I think that's about all we need to know.

12 posted on 07/07/2014 8:41:23 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Those feelings were unrequited, and Bonhoeffer probably did not consciously acknowledge them.

Right, he was gay and just didn’t know it.
See, everyone is gay, just out gays are more
aware of their gayness...../s


13 posted on 07/07/2014 8:41:54 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If he said he would die a virgin, then he could not possibly be “gay,” homosexual or a fag, since he obviously did not engage in homosexual activities. This coupled with the fact that he was engaged to a woman, which is what having a fiancée means, is proof of that.

The homo-revisionists will go back into the past to rewrite everything gay. So historical, Bible believing, Christian men who were not known to fornicate, rape, or carouse with loose women are now to be considered, “gay.”


14 posted on 07/07/2014 8:43:54 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: huldah1776

Oh, I get it.


15 posted on 07/07/2014 8:46:51 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Waryone

Maybe his virginity allowed his genius.


16 posted on 07/07/2014 9:00:43 AM PDT by amihow
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To: Waryone

[ The homo-revisionists will go back into the past to rewrite everything gay. So historical, Bible believing, Christian men who were not known to fornicate, rape, or carouse with loose women are now to be considered, “gay.” ]

So if one is not a lustful Bill Clintoon like animal they are gay....

That is an artifact of the feminist movement that has carved out an exception for gay males and the only non-sexually-violent males.

Therefore any chivalrous male from history who is dead automatically gets labeled as gay by the feminist cartel.


17 posted on 07/07/2014 9:02:03 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: 353FMG

Robert De Niro just came out with a new book about his father and mentions he thought his father was homosexual. Of course this is the headline to any review of the book. Saw an interview he did about the book with Katie Couric and she mentioned it to him. She asked him how he knew he was father was “gay”. I guess De Niro read a paper the old man wrote after he passed away mentioning something about how hard it is to hide homosexuality. Couric asked him did his father ever talk about it, did he know his father was indeed homosexual. Was his father depressed because of his homosexuality, did his mother know it. De Niro answered no to all the questions. Guess De Niro had a great childhood with his family. He even says the part about his father being “homosexual” is a very small part of the book. In otherwords he didn’t know if the old man was homosexual or not.

Well that’s Hollywood for you. De Niro is a big time liberal Obama supporter and figured no one would buy the book unless he says his father was homosexual.


18 posted on 07/07/2014 9:07:19 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Gaffer
Please read Obama’s poem Pops that had to be about Frank Davis. The item about stains in the underwear is definitely homosexual.
19 posted on 07/07/2014 9:07:29 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: carcraft

Thanks for the info. However, my mother (a staunch, devoted servant of the Lord) would roll over in her grave should I ever put my eyes on written works of the Devil. :o)


20 posted on 07/07/2014 9:17:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Vendome

RE: Co-opt the dead.

They can’t confirm or deny...

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There was also a book that claimed Abe Lincoln was gay.

Apparently, Lincoln was close friends with Joshua Speed, a man considered effeminate by contemporaries, and the two shared both living quarters and a bed for four years.

This of course, was not highly unusual for the time, as men often slept together because of a lack of money or space, but the relationship may have been more intimate than a deep friendship.

Lincoln wrote what many consider to be a homoerotic poem about Speed, and Lincoln broke off his engagement to Mary Todd when Speed left Illinois to concentrate on his own marriage and business pursuits.

It was only after a respite from work and his personal life at Speed’s plantation in Kentucky that Lincoln reconsidered marriage. This certainly does not prove Lincoln was bisexual, but the circumstantial evidence points in that direction.

Additionally, Lincoln’s bodyguard, Captain David Derickson, reportedly shared a bed with the president when Lincoln’s wife was out of town and had a close personal relationship with Lincoln that extended beyond business. Again, this was a rumor, and some historians have discounted it as hearsay, but the fact that Washington society was aware of it might indicate an element of truth. Interestingly, Lincoln’s supposed homosexuality led to the establishment of the Log Cabin Republicans, a modern political organization predominantly comprised of homosexual Republicans dedicated to same-sex issues.


21 posted on 07/07/2014 9:24:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And now they try to paint every hero as a homosexuals. No, he wasn’t. The homos were the Nazis. Ernst Roehm.


22 posted on 07/07/2014 9:28:40 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Still waiting for the sodomite nazis to claim John Wayne and George S. Patton were queer. Never been much of a Lincoln fan, but the stuff about him being a fag is farfetched to say the least, but that still does not stop the acceptance-hungry sodomites from labeling anyone and everyone fag if there is the least bit of “evidence”. They usually wait till after the person is dead so they can’t defend themselves.


23 posted on 07/07/2014 4:53:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: SeekAndFind

I have a different view .. perhaps, as “an anti-Nazi dissident whose theological writings” may have been more important to him.

There are some people who’s calling is more important than the expected temporary gratification of a normal life.

To assume he’s gay without any evidence is typical of the left in their attempts to smear his name. But, I thought being gay was okay .. maybe not. The left is sick!

It’s hard for the left to contemplate doing without a sex life .. but for some people it’s a secondary thought; not a first.


24 posted on 07/07/2014 9:47:52 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: CyberAnt; MinuteGal

“There are some people who’s calling is more important than the expected temporary gratification of a normal life.”

The same specious speculation is ruminated about Adolph Hitler also. That he was gay. No proof at all, but the speculation is endless. Maybe Bonhoeffer and Adolph Hitler were gay lovers and Bonhoeffer tried to blow up Hitler as part of a lover’s quarrel. That would be a good tale to tell. It’s as good as any of the other many fabrications as to who is/was gay or not.


25 posted on 07/07/2014 10:20:46 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: RushLake

“Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a brave man of principle.”

In my view, if he was a homosexual, and never acted on those sinful desires, makes him even more a man of principle.


26 posted on 07/07/2014 10:26:13 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is just...sad.


27 posted on 07/07/2014 10:39:10 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Catholic doctrine and discipline may be walls; but they are the walls of a playground."--GKC)
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To: flaglady47

Well .. good luck with that story.


28 posted on 07/07/2014 10:47:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (True the Vote: " MY AMERICA, ... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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