Skip to comments.Pope Francis meets US televangelists, and the first-ever ‘papal high-five’ follows
Posted on 07/10/2014 2:24:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
What does it take to produce the first-ever papal high-five? A meeting with American televangelists, apparently.
The gesture came during a three-hour meeting of Pope Francis and Texas televangelists Kenneth Copeland and James Robison, just weeks after the pontiff met with televangelist Joel Osteen and other religious leaders. At the June 24 meeting, Robison said he was so moved by Pope Francis message of the gospel that he asked the translator to ask Francis for a high-five. The pope obliged, raised his arm and the two men smacked hands.
The televangelists are among some wealthier U.S. evangelicals who have recently met with Francis, who has called for a focus on the poor and a simple lifestyle for clergy. In March, the pope met with members of the Green family, the Oklahoma billionaires whose company, Hobby Lobby, won their challenge to President Obamas contraception coverage mandate at the Supreme Court last week.
Copeland and Osteen have been criticized by some as teaching health and wealth prosperity theology, the belief that faith can increase ones wealth. But from his humble shoes to his simple Fiat, Francis has set a decidedly un-extravagant example.
The prosperity gospel seems to be fundamentally opposed to the message that Francis has been spreading. But he has shown that hes willing to meet with just about anyone, said Michael Peppard, a professor of theology at Fordham University.
Joel Osteen seems to have a charismatic authority among a large amount of people. Maybe Francis is channeling Jesus: If you disagree with someone, meet with them.
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Cute! I think the Pope should be a little friendlier to traditional Catholics, but he’s great at dealing with our separated brethren and that’s a good thing. Every Pope has his calling.
Who appointed these dufuses, besides the Pope (I know who appointed him, but I do hold him to be an idiot), as religious leaders? Copeland, Osteen and the rest are prosperity freaks and losers.
I remember when people would try to teach that to my toddler son in the mid 1970s, I would always make them stop and in the Army I would ignore the black GIs efforts to do the 3 minute handshake routine.
I also wasn’t a fan of other ghetto culture, such as describing everyone as bro, or talking about what “went down” or was “going to go down” or the cussing to “keep it real” or all the other coarsening of our culture.
Actually I’ve learned alot from Robinson. He does a lot of in depth bible teaching. Not to fond of Osteen. I learn from EWTN as well and I’m no Catholic.
Those grinning protestants in the photo...they know the liturgy largely has been subverted to their interests.
Snake oil salesmen convention. The False Prophet meets the false profit.
I do not trust any of them. God did not each any of that prosperity junk. A guy with initials MM is one of the worst. Just give me $58 for a windfall. That was the amount the last time I came across him.
I’m not Catholic but I’m on the pope’s side here because unlike the TV preachers, he really believes what he says.
Let’s just say the pope doesn’t read the vile comments on the Catholic Church that appear on FR. I was an innocent about evangelicals about a year ago...no longer.
Same could be said about catholics as well.
I would like to remind everyone who call themselves Christian to remember that Jesus’ harshest rebukes were aimed at the religious folk.
His commandment is that we love one another.
Why me, first? Why not Dr. (??) Thorne? He’s always going on about Catholics.
There’s a few nasty Evangelicals here, but I wouldn’t smear them all with the same brush. Some are very nice. There is a lot of anti-Catholicism on FR and unfortunately that’s just a given. But there’s also a lot of positive stuff and I just try to focus on that.
My theory is...ignore them. Satan is the master of division.
There’s a lot of nasty vangies here. I run across them all the time - they’re horrible as well you know it. Let’s not be naïve - or purposely naïve - here. I like the church militant and the Old Testament types, not some squishy post-Vatican 2 lets-all-get-along - especially with people who belong to churches that allow gay marriage and women priests and/or beg on tv for money from poor, elderly people.
OMG!!! I am a cradle Catholic, and sad to say, I think this Pope has DIMINISHED the PAPECY!!!
The next time I post it will be to ping the Moderators.
I suggest you stop your rudeness in this thread.
Grow up and look at your own egotistical, self-absorbed ministries in which there are hundreds of homosexuals running amok. Or just as bad: your Joel Olsteens with teeth more numerous than the many sins I’ve committed in life begging for money and fooling decent old ladies out of their pensions. For shame.
Poor you! The last refuge of the hurt evangelical - calling in the religious mods who have no time to investigate who is wrong and who is right. Boo hoo.
My theory is...ignore them. Satan is the master of division.
Exactly. As my dear late mother always reminded me, “Sticks and stones...etc.”
Oh Ann. You just don’t have a sense of humor! ;-)
Actually, I agree with you. When I think of the strong popes loyal to the One True Faith, I think of men who wouldn’t be caught dead giving a “high five”...especially to a Protestant heretic.
I'm surprised you're willing to soil yourself by posting on a site with Protestants. Should you even be speaking to us? I mean, the unseemliness of it! /S
That's okay, though, Pius. Really. I know you're a brother in Christ, even if you don't think so.
Such bad optics.......he needs a talking to by Benedict!!!
RE: Lets just say the pope doesnt read the vile comments on the Catholic Church that appear on FR. I was an innocent about evangelicals about a year ago...no longer.
Just wondering, how do you know that any rude comments about the popes were posted by Evangelicals?
I’m sure he would be thrilled to see what his FR minions say about Protestants on this site.
Actually, according to Traditional Catholic teaching, Protestants are separated brethren, but still heretics.
i question the choices to meet with these “money cometh!” prosperity gospel “preachers”.
i suppose he might figure the light on doctrine crowds are’easier to bring over’to the rcc than those that are rooted deply in biblical theology.
Am I, as a Protestant, considered to be following a false religion?
“”Actually, according to Traditional Catholic teaching, Protestants are separated brethren, but still heretics.”
Don’t forget that not all holders of heresy are fully blameworthy because they know no better.
“Am I, as a Protestant, considered to be following a false religion?”
If it is Protestant, it was started by a man and not by Christ. It is by definition false. It may hold to some truth, but it also embraces and teaches error.
Thanks, vladmir. That confirms what Pius told me recently.
No hard feelings, brother. :)
same thing my Orthodox friends say about the Romans...
...and relax, I don’t have a dog in this fight. I’m a severely lapsed Anglican, who’s just tired of the internecine bullcrap Christians seem capable of throwing at each other...
Good luck. I notice your Bishop of Rome has brought the Vatican Bank into the 21st century using some semblance of accounting standards...that’s actually going to give you more problems than a bunch of narcissistic, telegenic nutters obsessed with popular culture expressions of “unity”.
Well, there’s the crowd that swears up and down that the Roman Catholic church is the Whore of Babylon.
And there’s another crowd that swears up and down that it is one and the same with the Perfect Bride of Christ, and that anyone with a lower view of it is on the express bus to hell.
My take on it? Both of these crowds partake of blasphemy. They are trying to define the church in terms of enemies, of which of CO-OURSE they are conveniently not.
“No hard feelings, brother. :)”
None at all. If you’re baptized, we have the same Father whom we can call on as Abba!
How about hijacked by a man or men...
He might have more classily met with someone like Franklin Graham.
Mat_7:3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
I am baptized, yes. And you're right. What a blessed reason to rejoice.
The uncomfortable truth is that even believers are not entirely square with Christ in the way they live in this world.
Other than elucidating a very sharp line between believer and unbeliever, which is based upon an atomic action, not upon some average of conduct, we believers have no business being occupied with who is a worse enemy of Christ. Because we might find ourselves doing something dastardly and bastardly too.
Check out the plank in your eye with the name calling.
She’s saying she doesn’t care for weak, wimpy anything-goes Christians, as I read it.
Jesus said something similar. He wished that Laodicea was hot or cold. It wasn’t either one. It was lukewarm and it was about to get the divine barf treatment.
Better to be wrong, but to be wrong because you really care about God, than to be a mush.
“How about hijacked by a man or men...”
Well, I suppose man-made sects (all Protestant sects are) can be quite often “hijacked” but what’s the difference if it was already man-made rather than Christ-made?
Ever since the church accepted Rome on a silver platter its attitude has had a lot of man made problems.
Believers are Christ-made one by one.
The church ran into institutional problems when it presumed it could take stewardship of a land of unbelievers.
Some Catholics on here post much worse about Protestants. Some seem to show a lot of hatred.
“Ever since the church accepted Rome on a silver platter its attitude has had a lot of man made problems.”
Sorry, your comment makes no sense. I have no idea what you mean.