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To: glennaro
Precisely the response obama is hoping to get from the church and and country he is committed to destroying. He knows he can't do that without the complicity of the ones who he wants to bring down.

com·plic·i·ty
kəmˈplisitē/
noun
noun: complicity

the state of being involved with others in an illegal activity or wrongdoing.

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Some precision of thought is required. Performing the Corporal Works of Mercy is not contingent; nor is it wrongdoing.

Let's stay clear on who the real bad actors are in this situation.

29 posted on 07/11/2014 6:35:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o
It's like talking to the deaf. But it's ok. because just like the idiots that claim to be Catholics and continue to take the Eucharist, they are just bringing wrath upon themselves. We are blamed for all the worlds evils. Just ask everyone not Catholic on this forum. They would prefer that these kids go home, I would as well. I am very concerned about this situation.

But the allegedly pro-life conservatives who are not Catholic, would rather these kids die then take up any space in their precious universe, because they are poor and illegal. Most of these illegals probably don't have a clue what they are doing here. They are being used. So by all means we should just get in line and mistreat them. Then the headline will be "Catholics Turn Backs on Hispanics". Don't care! We can't win that one!

You know I am tired of this. Lets go spiritual, shall we. Today's first reading. "for in you the orphan finds compassion.” I will heal their defection, says the LORD, I will love them freely; for my wrath is turned away from them. "

For the literalistic that will pounce.

Orphan: one deprived of some protection or advantage.

Today's Gospel:Jesus said to his Apostles: “Behold, I am sending you like sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and simple as doves. But beware of men, for they will hand you over to courts and scourge you in their synagogues, and you will be led before governors and kings for my sake as a witness before them and the pagans. When they hand you over, do not worry about how you are to speak or what you are to say. You will be given at that moment what you are to say. For it will not be you who speak but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you. Brother will hand over brother to death, and the father his child; children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by all because of my name, but whoever endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in one town, flee to another. Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”

Don-o, it very well may be that God is giving us a means to redemption. This country has and continues to go off the rails. Even though we don't support abortion, infanticide, eugenics etc. a large part of our country does.

I am reminded of the story from the Old Testament, where God promised not to destroy the city if there were even one righteous man in it.

I don't claim to be righteous but we owe it to God to try.

I would have preferred that these kids stayed home with their families, but they didn't. They are here. They are human beings, they are sick and hurt and frightened. Instead of gratitude that the Catholic Church is willing to step up and try to get at least some of this burden off the citizens and tax payers all they get is grief. Accusations of ulterior motives, suspicions, complicity. I would love to have a conversation with some of their pastors.

36 posted on 07/11/2014 8:04:09 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: don-o
Some precision of thought is required. Performing the Corporal Works of Mercy is not contingent; nor is it wrongdoing. ... Let's stay clear on who "the real bad actors" are in this situation.

Make no mistake my friend -- My thinking is quite precise and I am very clear on who the real bad actors are in this crisis.

You missed my point -- That being that I see this as an attempt by the "bad actors" -- I prefer "evil-doers" -- to use you and the Catholic Church's "Corporal Works of Mercy" to advance their mission to destroy our Judeo-Christian values and heritage on which this country was founded by opening our borders.

The Left's tactic of advancing their political agenda by wrapping it in a humanitarian cloak (which makes those who want to preserve our sovereignty by controlling our borders look "mean" or "uncaring" at best), then appealing to religious people and institutions to join them -- as religious tenets compel -- is sheer brilliance (though truly evil in its contemptible use of people of faith who the Left holds in disdain).

There is no question we must treat these people humanely -- illegal though their actions may be -- and we must show compassion for their plight. But that compassion must be on a personal level, not on a societal or "group" level or we'll lose our country.

You must remember this crisis is -- at its core -- a political tactic. The Left cares little about religious people and even less about the church, and it makes me angry that good people like yourself cannot see beyond the humanitarian imperative. Provide food, temporary shelter and any necessary medical care to these people then, after explaining why they cannot stay here, put them on a comfortable bus and send them back to where they came from.

As to others on this forum who would rather attack those who disagree with them than to acknowledge the counterpoint (e.g., defconw: It's like talking to the deaf. But it's ok. because just like the idiots that claim to be Catholics and continue to take the Eucharist, they are just bringing wrath upon themselves.) I say this: You should show a little compassion toward those who see beyond the humanitarian crisis and you should at the very least acknowledge that history shows that good works, no matter how well intended they may be, can produce an even greater tragedy. Instead, you profess to somehow know that those who take issue with you will bring "wrath upon themselves".

49 posted on 07/11/2014 1:38:47 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: don-o
Some precision of thought is required. Performing the Corporal Works of Mercy is not contingent; nor is it wrongdoing.

The most obvious corporal work of mercy would be to:
honor God's commandment to honor thy mother and father
and hence return these children ASAP to their mothers and fathers back in their home countries!

By taking them in, Catholics play RIGHT into Obama's hands. Insane!

65 posted on 07/11/2014 3:56:54 PM PDT by Yossarian
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