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Do Evangelical Churches Have to Accept Gay Marriage to Attract Millennials?
Christian Post ^ | 07/12/2014 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 07/12/2014 10:29:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Must Evangelical churches change or downplay their position on homosexuality to attract millennials?

Millennials, generally defined as those ages 18 to mid-30s, are the most supportive of redefining marriage to include same-sex couples, many polls show. A recent Public Religion Research Institute poll had their support at 69 percent, the highest of any age group.

Even among self-described Evangelicals, the millennials showed the highest level of support at 43 percent (though the poll only included white Evangelicals), compared to 33 percent for generation X, 22 percent for Baby Boomers and 19 percent for those 68 and older. The poll also found that 70 percent of millennials "believe that religious groups are alienating young adults by being too judgmental about gay and lesbian issues."

Some Evangelicals have pointed to this and similar studies to argue that Evangelical churches need to end their opposition to same-sex marriage or they will die off.

The church's "obsessions with opposing gay marriage," Evangelical author Rachel Held Evans wrote in March for CNN as she pointed out the PRRI report, is one of the reasons "evangelicalism is losing a generation to the culture wars."

Other media outlets appear eager to report that Evangelicals will end their opposition to same-sex marriage and stop teaching that homosexuality is a sin. "Evangelicals Are Changing Their Minds on Gay Marriage: And the Bible isn't getting in their way," religion reporter Jim Hinch wrote Monday for Politico.

For evidence that Evangelicals are changing their minds on gay marriage, Hinch points to Pew Research polling showing that support for same-sex marriage among white Evangelical Protestants jumped 10 percentage points, from 13 to 23 percent, from 2001 to 2014.

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; millenials; millennials
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1 posted on 07/12/2014 10:29:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rachel Held Evans is a completely obsessed about queers faghag.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 10:33:51 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: SeekAndFind
70 percent of millennials "believe that religious groups are alienating young adults

Because it is NOT about them only. They are the ones hitting "the real world" and starting to realize the world does not revolve around them excursively, and frankly most are intolerant to anything that does not.

3 posted on 07/12/2014 10:35:43 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: SeekAndFind

Did the first Church accept such things? No; they preached the Gospel, and they knew it would not be a popular message.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 10:36:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DYngbld

More like the “young adults” are alienating themselves to the truth.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 10:36:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

Churches who adapt to Political Correctness end up dying. But the poison is to sweet to avoid.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 10:36:59 AM PDT by lurk
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To: DYngbld

excursively umm ok got to love auto correct. “Exclusively”


7 posted on 07/12/2014 10:37:28 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: SeekAndFind

Is inviting Satan to join the choir the Christian thing to do?


8 posted on 07/12/2014 10:37:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: MNDude

This is such a deceptive message.

Whenever they talk about democracy or “attracting” or what science says, they really mean what churches should be forced to accept..

They first presume their stuff is great and then find out they are part of a scam rejected by others and they start attacking after that.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 10:38:32 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: SeekAndFind

When millennials are head of the church instead of Christ, it will no longer be church.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 10:39:39 AM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: Olog-hai

Indeed, a church is about ministering the truth, not acceptance. gays are welcome if they accept the ministry and testimony of each. This is a blatant attempt at muzzling and shutting up other congregants who have a different word from God to them.

These people are truly of the seed of Soddom and Satan, horrible.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 10:41:15 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: cripplecreek
Is inviting Satan to join the choir the Christian thing to do?

I don't know about that, but they ought not use his hymnal.
12 posted on 07/12/2014 10:42:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind

If homosexuality is not a sin, then is there such thing is any sexual sin? If there is no such thing as a sexual sin, then how serious are other sins such as pride?

If we are guilty of committing few sins and those we commit are not serious, then why do we need Christ or the church?


13 posted on 07/12/2014 10:42:23 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: SeekAndFind

Millenials have more authority than the church, so the church must follow the Millenials?

If Gertrude Stein accused Hemingway’s generation of being The Lost Generation, I can’t imagine what she’d call the millenials.

I’d just call them the Illenials.


14 posted on 07/12/2014 10:43:00 AM PDT by Vision Thing (obama wants his suicidal worshipers to become suicidal bombers.)
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To: lurk

They want force people to have sex and be perverted, doing the sins for them... Who needs a pedophile scandal when it is the norm to reward a child for sinning for them.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 10:43:55 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: DannyTN

America needs a Dietrich Bonhoeffer.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 10:44:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: DannyTN

No, it will be a mosque where little kids are praised and rewarded for performing sexual acts and suicide/abortion bombings for the imams.

These people are retarded... They really have an evil retarded mind and they compulsively use their wits only for lies and power.


17 posted on 07/12/2014 10:46:00 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: lurk
I have left churches that went PC. Had to cater to this group to get this demographic etc.. You are correct most fall apart when the teaching moves from solid biblical teaching to world views.

Our current Church has a thriving young adult population. We teach only the word of God. Speaks to everyone at a different level.

Does the Word of God step on toes? You bet it does! Watering down the Word into a feel good tell you what you want to hear message will fill the seats. The hard to swallow stuff truth is what makes you better person. It is also what drives people away.

18 posted on 07/12/2014 10:47:06 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!! (this post approved by the NSA))
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To: SeekAndFind

No Church that follows the word of God can accept gay marriage or abortion. Even though much of America has surrendered to the abortionists I believe abortion is a more serious matter. America is now drenched in the blood of millions of its aborted babies. This is not the blood our country needs to be soaked in right now.

The one saving grace here is that all this foolishness makes it easier to figure out where the real churches are.


19 posted on 07/12/2014 10:53:04 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: SeekAndFind

I am a church going Catholic, indulging in the homosexual lifestyle is a Mortal Sin! We are talking about Eternal Damnation. Accepting the “gay” lifestyle and same sex marriage is dancing on the edge of going to Hell.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 10:55:29 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: SeekAndFind

The question itself presupposes that churches are no more than entertainment businesses that have to tailor their “basic tenets” to whatever draws the most customers.


21 posted on 07/12/2014 11:04:08 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: lurk

I came across a show about religion this morning. The speaker said that churches decided politics was dirty and they had no business getting involved. This was in the 1960’s and 1970’s. He said many things happened to get laws passed that were not good for Christians. We were silent far too long. It is way past time for mainline churches to make our views known. Everything he said made sense.


22 posted on 07/12/2014 11:05:56 AM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB
The speaker said that churches decided politics was dirty and they had no business getting involved. This was in the 1960’s and 1970’s.

Its a result of taxed speech for churches. The progressives knew that churches planted the seeds of the American revolution and needed to be silenced.

There's nothing illegal about talking politics from the pulpit but it will cost money (at least if you talk conservative politics)
23 posted on 07/12/2014 11:09:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SeekAndFind

obviously not, but based on the millennials I’ve talked to, they nearly unanimously think being gay is just fine and dandy, so that’s why the churches are doing it. And some of the national denominations are being told to do it by their hierarchy. That’s why for example, many UMC churches have the fag flag flying.


24 posted on 07/12/2014 11:18:22 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

it is not up to a church to “accept gay marriage” (sic!)

a Christian church cannot accept ‘gay marriage” (sic) and remain a Christian church

see Bible.

(some good Christian church needs to file a lawsuit or trademark complaint case ... against any formerly Christian church which “adopts gay marriage” for any reason — let’s at least have these outfits adopt honest labels, names for themselves and STOP trying to masquarade as Christian churches anymore.... they can call themselves Homosexual Recreation Centers, Male Pleasure Palaces, or even “Gay” GloryHoles..... whatever they want .... as long as they stop calling themselves Churches!)


25 posted on 07/12/2014 11:24:15 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: SeekAndFind

Better question: Should millenials change their support of sodomy to avoid offending a holy God?


26 posted on 07/12/2014 11:32:45 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ('Merica!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they want to die like the PCUSA


27 posted on 07/12/2014 11:40:46 AM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess those churches won’t condemn any sin then...don’t want to alienate the sinners. So then pastors can commit adultery with a member of the church, divorce his wife, shack up with that pig then marry in big church wedding. An offense to God welcomed by apostates.


28 posted on 07/12/2014 11:46:32 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Olog-hai
Did the first Church accept such things? No; they preached the Gospel, and they knew it would not be a popular message.

and yet it grew in spite of that.

I agree....preach the full Word and God will honor His Word.

29 posted on 07/12/2014 11:46:51 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: SeekAndFind

The purpose of the church is not to “attract” anyone. It is to worship and serve The Lord Jesus Christ faithfully and obediently. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to draw (”attract”) lost sinners to repentance.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 11:54:29 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Olog-hai
This just another example of the Apostasy foretold in The Bible.

We are warned that the 'man of lawlessness' (2 Thessalonians 2) will not appear until the Apostasy (1 Timothy 4) comes first.

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!(Isaiah 5:20).

I would not want to be the pastor of one of these apostasy churches who will have to stand before The Lord and give an accounting of his actions.

31 posted on 07/12/2014 11:58:28 AM PDT by Florida native
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To: SeekAndFind
churches need to that end their opposition to same-sex marriage or they will die off.

Fixed it.

Ask the Episcopal Church USA, Presbyterians Church USA, United Church of Christ, Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, etc., how their membership rolls have been since they "embraced same sex marriage". Any "millennials" beating down the door to join those "churches"

32 posted on 07/12/2014 12:00:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They shouldn’t be concerned about attracting men, they should be concerned about living by God’s Word.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 12:22:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cripplecreek
. . . Dietrich Bonhoeffer . . .

He was a brilliant and blessed man--a man who held his ground and his testimony for Christ.

But the Americans who need him most would not be able to heed his message. See Romans 1:18 and the rest of the passage to understand that America is cursed with huge numbers of people who are imbued with the reprobate mind--the mind that cannot understand Spiritual truth. The mind that believes that evil is good.
34 posted on 07/12/2014 12:33:25 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some of the wisest words I ever heard about evangelism were - you have to catch the fish before you clean them.

Change the heart (spirit) first, and a lot of these sinful desires fade away. Religion has been fighting in the flesh. We win war in the spirit. Preach the Word, love the people, and let the Holy Spirit do its work to change the folks.


35 posted on 07/12/2014 1:10:10 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: SeekAndFind
Do Evangelical Churches Have to Accept Gay Marriage to Attract Millennials?

Depends on what you're looking for.

If you want to build YOUR church, probably.

If you want to build the body of Christ, not a chance.

You cannot compromise on sin. It is doing no one any favors.

36 posted on 07/12/2014 1:11:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Olog-hai

This going along to get along routine is getting old. The Bible clearly states that as believers we are to get off our duffs and spread the Good News. . .not just invite them into a building! I heard a sermon yesterday that explicitly stated that we are to be like Paul and run the race to the end. . .not sit on a false sense of security. Notice verse 20 Jesus said commanded you NOT suggested to you.

Matthew 28:16-20King James Version (KJV)

16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 1:24:53 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Viennacon

Exactly. If embracing homosexuality is the ticket to church growth, then the PCUSA and other liberal denominations should be bursting with growth. Instead they’re dying out.


38 posted on 07/12/2014 1:45:35 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps the question should be asked:

why would someone who embraces homosexuality want to worship someone who taught this:

‘And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”’(words of Christ from Matthew 19:4-6.)


39 posted on 07/12/2014 1:49:38 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: DannyTN

Exactly. The millenials are not conceived by the Holy Ghost, they are not born of a virgin and didn’t suffer under Pontius Pilate and weren’t crucified, dead, and buried and never rose from the dead and never ascended into heaven and never sat at the right hand of God the Father Almighty and never will come to judge the living and the dead.

Therefore, they do not meet the qualifications for head of the Christian church.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 1:56:16 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Thane_Banquo

Exactly.


41 posted on 07/12/2014 2:20:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: BillyBoy

Exactly. According to the logic of these folks, those denominations should by definition be bursting at the seams with members. Isn’t happening is it?


42 posted on 07/12/2014 2:22:55 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: DYngbld
Because it is NOT about them only. They are the ones hitting "the real world" and starting to realize the world does not revolve around them excursively, and frankly most are intolerant to anything that does not.

BOY, do they have a LOT of growing up to do.
It will be very painful for the TRULY spoiled. Where was their father to implant BACKBONE. My daddy did so with me.

It REALLY helped to a have a faith that taught what the parents were trying to inculcate.
The Catholic Church taught that sin was BAD, not a "repercussion of upbringing" or a "personal choice of what I decide is "right and wrong."

Catholic Church = moral absolutes

Pope Benedict had it right by saying that the greatest scourge of our century was MORAL RELATIVISM.
Bingo. The Panzer Pope nailed it.

43 posted on 07/12/2014 2:58:32 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: righttackle44
But the Americans who need him most would not be able to heed his message. See Romans 1:18 and the rest of the passage to understand that America is cursed with huge numbers of people who are imbued with the reprobate mind--the mind that cannot understand Spiritual truth. The mind that believes that evil is good.

Pope Benedict said that the greatest scourge of our century was MORAL RELATIVISM, or as you said, "evil is good."

The PANZER POPE nailed it.

44 posted on 07/12/2014 3:01:21 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ReformationFan

Ironically, most of those “Christian” denominations that celebration abortion and homosexuality are suffering from an aging elderly white population, and they’re not getting any new members to replace the older ones that die off. Conservative traditional Christians are also leaving churches like the Episcopalians in droves. Worse, they can’t even get liberal members of churches who support traditional marriage (Catholics, Southern Baptists, etc.) to jump ship to a “tolerant” mainline protestant church.


45 posted on 07/12/2014 3:07:14 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No. In fact, they’d do a lot to further the survival of the flock by actively promoting traditional marriage AND having children.

Encouraging family formation creates a buffer against the political system.

Encouraging traditional family formation will offset the bad life outcomes that go up three to ten times in likelihood when there is a married father in the home. Everything from poverty to addiction to mental illness to crime are far more likely in broken homes, and all are most likely in unmarried homes. You can’t say “do what is best, be married as husband and wife” and support it if you also support homosexual unions.

Promoting traditional marriage has the additional benefit of increasing the number of likely members in 20 years. Two men married to each other are a PC photo op, but 95% won’t have kids, and those that do are bloody unlikely to fit into a traditional church in our culture.

We need a system akin to Christian arranged marriages, with all adults consenting, of course. Help many religious individuals find like minded mates, whereas many religious men are pushed out of church by the groups seeking to promote feminism and too many girls assume they are going to marry a minister.


46 posted on 07/12/2014 5:17:26 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind
Then you have this :

A Sexual Revolution for Young Evangelicals? No.
Defying the secular culture, churchgoing Christians are sticking to Biblical teaching.

..

Regnerus surveyed 15,378 persons between the ages of 18 and 60, but he focuses in particular on respondents under 40. Significantly, Regnerus did the important work of differentiating between those who identify merely verbally with a particular religious tradition and those who actually attend church weekly.

While support for same-sex marriage characterized a solid majority of those identifying as atheists, agnostics, liberal Catholics, and liberal Protestants, only 11 percent of young Evangelicals actively expressed support for same-sex marriage.

Approximately 6 percent of religiously active Evangelicals expressed support for abortion rights, while over 70 percent of their non-believing peer group said they believed in abortion rights.

Evangelical Christians were also drastically less likely to believe that cohabitation is a good idea. While upward of 70 percent of those who claim no religious affiliation or those who are “spiritual but not religious” agree that cohabitation is acceptable, approximately 5 percent of Evangelicals agreed that cohabitation is acceptable. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/

47 posted on 07/12/2014 7:47:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SeekAndFind

DO NOT BEND! HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG!


48 posted on 07/12/2014 7:50:56 PM PDT by burgereater (Heroes: Reagan, Bush Sr, Dole, Bush Jr, McCain, Romney)
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To: painter

Accepting the “gay” lifestyle and same sex marriage is dancing on the edge of going to Hell.

...I guess someone forgot to tell the seminaries that vital piece of information in the first postconciliar decade...


49 posted on 07/13/2014 10:12:12 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: BillyBoy

Any “millennials” beating down the door to join those “churches”

...plenty of these millennials are joining the mega churches, where worship consists of having song and fun, and ‘preaching’ is meant to be ‘interpretive’...

...by the way, all denominational churches, in addition to the ones you named, are suffering from this poaching...


50 posted on 07/13/2014 10:19:09 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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