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HHS money to church entities long before waves of illegal immigrants
WDTPRS ^ | July 11, 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 07/12/2014 1:46:36 PM PDT by NYer

Via Pewsitter I learned of this from Liberty News. My emphases.

EXCLUSIVE: HHS Bankrolled Catholic and Baptist Church from 2010 to 2013 to Prepare for Obama’s 2014 Invasion!

A month or two ago news broke that Obama’s HHS was calling for private contractors to help transport illegal aliens throughout the interior United States. What made this already big news even bigger is the fact that the original call for proposals came out in January, long before the bulk of the illegal alien surge began.
The breaking news you’re about to read is ten times bigger, because the following proves the Obama administration was bankrolling America’s churches back in 2010. And the tens of millions were flowing in to prepare for the invasion currently underway.
The following is a small taste of what’s out there in grant records. This is just the tip of the iceberg, folks.
Between Dec 2010 and Nov 2013, the Catholic Charities Diocese of Galveston received $15,549,078 in federal grants from Health & Human Services for “Unaccompanied Alien Children Project” with a program description of “Refugee and Entry Assistance.”
Last year, the Catholic Charities Diocese of Fort Worth received $350,000 from Department of Homeland Security for “citizenship and education training” with a program description of “citizenship and immigration services.”
Between September 2010 and September 2013, the Catholic Charities of Dallas received $823,658 from the Department of Homeland Security for “Citizenship Education Training” for “refugee and entrant assistance.”
From Dec 2012 to January 2014, Baptist Child & Family Services received $62,111,126 in federal grants from Health & Human Services for “Unaccompanied Alien Children Program.”

All that money from the feds… from our taxes. What could go wrong?

Moderation queue is ON.

UPDATE:

I was sent a link to the Catholic Charities site of Galveston-Houston, which is fair and appropriate to post. HERE They give their criteria for assistance for deferred action in regard to illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: baptist; border; hhs; immigration; obama

1 posted on 07/12/2014 1:46:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

PING!


2 posted on 07/12/2014 1:47:01 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer
This is a lie!

Ubama knew nothing about his child/human trafficking border initiative until he read about it on Breitbart!

3 posted on 07/12/2014 1:49:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: NYer
Connect the dots and it's pretty obvious that Obama planned this to force some action on immigration.

I think it's a big backfire.

Pssst....time for American companies to pull out of Mexico.

4 posted on 07/12/2014 1:51:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: NYer

**HHS Bankrolled Catholic and Baptist Church from 2010 to 2013 to Prepare for Obama’s 2014 Invasion!**

Original sentence is false. Only the Catholic Charities got money. Not the Catholic Church.

Likewise it was the Baptist Child & Family Services — not the Baptist Church.

It all amounts to journalists with leftist minds trying to invent a headline.


5 posted on 07/12/2014 1:52:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Add misuse and misappropriation of funds to the articles of impeachment.


6 posted on 07/12/2014 1:55:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: NYer
When at the supermarket, BOYCOTT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM MEXICO.. BE SURE TO CHECK ALL LABELS!!!!

This is one thing ALL Americans can do to punish Mexico. THEY are the country allowing Central American illegals free passage.

7 posted on 07/12/2014 1:58:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: NYer

NYer, for you, I’ll do this for the fourth time in two days, which is how often I have seen this posting here on this all too happy to denigrate the Church forum.

I am posting a 12 year old article, which Is how long I have known Catholic Charities is a political, profit-making business which has no more to do with the teachings of the Catholic Church than its commonality in name with the Church.

Below is a link and below that is an excerpt

I beg you to read it.

If you want to find things the USCCB is doing to thwart the Constitution and in so doing very definitely thwart the very Teachings of the Church, there is evidence out there.

But Catholic Charities is not the Church. Please make it stop.

Cardinal O’Connor said the statement below, in case there is anyone looking to dis the Church hierarchy there it is. Condemnation of CC from the Cardinal

http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/excellence_in_philanthropy/taking_the_catholic_out_of_catholic_charities

“..Because Catholic Charities receives almost two-thirds of its funding from government sources, the senator said, it “can do little that is uniquely Catholic. They have to do what the government dictates, which means they can’t talk about the Catholic part of the charity.”

Senator Santorum had a special reason to be critical of the organization. He had just emerged from an intense debate about the political future of the welfare state. At issue was a Republican bill that sought to curb the growth of the welfare state by eliminating the idea of a welfare “entitlement” and transferring some programs to be administered by states. Senator Santorum, a proponent of the bill and a devout Catholic, was alarmed to witness firsthand the role of the Catholic lobby — especially Catholic Charities — in scuttling the most important parts of the bill.

His conclusion? “The number one opponent, and perhaps the most effective opponent, of welfare reform was Catholic Charities.” This organization, he implied, was more interested in maintaining its own status as a benefactor of government grants than in promoting true charity to the underprivileged, much less witnessing to the truths of the gospel in a way that is “distinctly Catholic.” “If you are only going to be a more efficient bureaucracy, if you are not going to feed the souls as well as the stomach, then why exist?” the senator asked rhetorically.

Not everyone agreed. John Cardinal O’Connor of New York weighed in with a theological critique, arguing that in providing for the poor, Catholic Charities is fulfilling the gospel mandate even if the workers themselves do not preach Jesus to every recipient of charity. Indeed federal law restricts them from doing so. “I have not thought of Catholic social services as a medium for direct, oral teaching about Jesus,” said Cardinal O’Connor...”


8 posted on 07/12/2014 2:03:30 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer

9 posted on 07/12/2014 2:07:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NYer
Sure sounds like the HHS (Health and Human Services) budget is way too big, and evidently unsupervised or lacking any oversight at all

Obama Scandal #13???

10 posted on 07/12/2014 2:09:21 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

How can we boycott Obama????


11 posted on 07/12/2014 2:10:58 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer

From the same crowd that regularly screams ‘separation of church and state!’

What a load.


12 posted on 07/12/2014 2:12:25 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: publius911

...HHS (Health and Human Services) budget is way too big, and evidently unsupervised or lacking any oversight at all.

__________________

Wow! You are correct and WHAT does this have to do with HOMELAND SECURITY anyway????????????????????

Give OUR $$$ to the National Guard and put them on the border.

(breathing fire...)


13 posted on 07/12/2014 2:13:08 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
When at the supermarket, BOYCOTT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM MEXICO.. BE SURE TO CHECK ALL LABELS!!!!

You do realize that many of the vegetables and fruits grown in the US are picked by Mexican migrants. Boycotting Mexico grown veggies accomplishes nothing.

14 posted on 07/12/2014 2:13:48 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Travis McGee

Tell us again these are just little bitty children.


15 posted on 07/12/2014 2:15:47 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Sacajaweau
Pssst....time for American companies to pull out of Mexico.

Double Pssssst!!

Time totally tostop all normal surface traffic from Mexico altogether.

I'm sure there will be screams, but a Sovereign Nation's physical and health security of its citizens trumps all other considerations, even economic ones.

Humanitarian considerations? The biggest manufactured red herring of all!

16 posted on 07/12/2014 2:16:20 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: NYer

Actually, many of our fruits and veggies ARE coming from Mexico these days due to water problems in CA.


17 posted on 07/12/2014 2:16:38 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer

And Obama now wants BILLIONS more...


18 posted on 07/12/2014 2:18:21 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
When at the supermarket, BOYCOTT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM MEXICO.. BE SURE TO CHECK ALL LABELS!!!!

I've been checking for years. The last few years, NO fruits and vegetables bear any hint of nation of origin.

I always thought that federal health laws require that.

19 posted on 07/12/2014 2:19:41 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Travis McGee

No wonder they don’t want pictures in those child processing facilities — those poor little children are suffering from rapid aging syndrome.


20 posted on 07/12/2014 2:22:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: stanne

Bfl


21 posted on 07/12/2014 2:24:14 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: SumProVita
Wow! You are correct and WHAT does this have to do with HOMELAND SECURITY anyway????????????????????

I may be wrong, but I believe that Homeland Security and Health and Human Services are two distinct an unrelated agencies.

But it does underscore the fact that Obama's "fundamentally transformed America" has waaayyy too many agencies which exist for the sole purpose of spending as much of working taxpayer money as the populace will tolerate.

22 posted on 07/12/2014 2:26:33 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: stanne
Thank you VERY MUCH for the post and ping!! I had no idea.

“..Because Catholic Charities receives almost two-thirds of its funding from government sources, the senator said, it “can do little that is uniquely Catholic. They have to do what the government dictates, which means they can’t talk about the Catholic part of the charity.”

As you probably know, I attend a Maronite (Eastern Catholic) Church. The See is in Lebanon and the parish is very aware and sensitive to the plight of christians in the Middle East. We had a RC visitor one Sunday who shared our concerns. He mentioned that Catholic Charities in Albany was supplying outreach by providing transportation, food and shelter. Elated to hear this, I asked for a local contact, suggesting that these immigrants would enjoy hearing the gospel in their own language. He said it wouldn't matter since Catholic Charities was assisting muslim immigrants!!! I was shocked. Your comment on this thread clarifies the situation. Again, thank you for repeating it for my benefit.

23 posted on 07/12/2014 2:30:03 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: SumProVita
Actually, many of our fruits and veggies ARE coming from Mexico these days due to water problems in CA.

Good point. This produce passes through multiple hands before it arrives on supermarket shelves. Try convincing busy consumers on limited budgets to read the labels on each item before making their selections. It's a noble cause that will be ignored by most Americans.

24 posted on 07/12/2014 2:36:52 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Travis McGee
Holy Cow.
Most of those "children" look like MS13 or whatever the Mexican criminal network is called. Remember, these gangs have contract killers as young as 12 or 13.

Anf you can be sure that they are will be forthcoming about their record.
< /sarc >

25 posted on 07/12/2014 2:47:14 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: publius911

You are correct, sir. I was so angry upon discovering when this taxpayer money was given out...that the two departments warped into one in my mind. It must have been the smoke from the fire I was breathing at the time... ;-o~~

We certainly will have a GREAT DEAL to clean up after this sophomoric ideologue leaves the White House.


26 posted on 07/12/2014 2:48:05 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer

With one stroke of his pen he can cause a pandemic. We are living in a dictatorship. I never dreamed it would happen. And just because lots of people still love Obama doesn’t mean it’s not a dictatorship. Not everyone hated Hitler.


27 posted on 07/12/2014 2:49:39 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: publius911
Talked to a farmer in Sacramento Valley the other day, he said it is a joke among distributors of fruit and vegetables. They bring them in unlabeled, and depending on what area they are going to they put whatever labels are needed. Made me sick at my stomach that was always how I bought them, depending on where they were from. mrs easternsky
28 posted on 07/12/2014 2:58:45 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Reddy

Nice. What does the acronym stand for?

Cannot make out what exactly you mean, referring you to the response from the poster, in #23


29 posted on 07/12/2014 3:17:03 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer

Another chapter in Obama’s war against America. As usual, the illegal alien dictator using our resources to destroy us.

It would be most helpful if we could regain even a modest control over our tax dollars.


30 posted on 07/12/2014 4:23:35 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: sport

ping


31 posted on 07/12/2014 4:33:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Whether it is a big backfire depends on what you believe his ultimate goal is. If you believe it is to get the republicans to move on providing amnesty for illegals, it is a big backfire fail. But if his ultimate goal is to open the borders and allow as many illegal aliens, drugs, cartel gang members, red Chinese and jihadis into this country as possible, he has been tremendously successful.

Why do we have to go through TSA searches when all the illegals and arabs have to do is get on the plane with a piece of paper or walk across our southern border.


32 posted on 07/12/2014 5:04:42 PM PDT by Waryone
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Since illegal immigrants are turning into so-called refugees - book mark this site.
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/

Most refugees aren’t refugees - now there’s more!


33 posted on 07/12/2014 6:01:36 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: NYer

I’ve heard of these people before! something about 30 pieces of silver and selling out the Son of G-D.


34 posted on 07/12/2014 7:08:00 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I do. If it reads “Product of Mexico” I put it back down and move on.


35 posted on 07/12/2014 7:15:04 PM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

they won’t be deported. But what they will do is bring the pig pen lifestyle from where they came from to where they end up.


36 posted on 07/12/2014 7:17:16 PM PDT by sport
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To: B4Ranch

Thanks.


37 posted on 07/12/2014 7:18:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: SumProVita
The fact that those fruits & veggies aren't coming from CA has something to do with the "water issues," in CA but has much more to do with NAFTA.

Why do you think that so many of us screamed when we knew nothing at all good would be coming from South of the Border, when we were told that Mexican drivers and trucks wouldn't be a problem, right, wrong - thanks George W., we got them anyway didn't we?

Yes we did and while we're at it, we also got to send our fruits & veggies South at the same time.

Most of what you see at the grocery stores comes from some other place and that is a fact that has nothing to do with water shortage.

Stopping by Gilroy, CA every year for 20+ years, I still see plenty of produce and when asking where much of their produce would be ending up, was told it was going "off shore" as much was too expensive for Mexico!

So, as you can suspect by now, most of what we gain from our land is never consumed here, it's consumed elsewhere, so if you are looking to get some safe green onions to use in your salad from your local grocery store, you're out of luck, "water issues "or no, it's because the only "fresh" green onions in your neck of the woods would be coming from Mexico (I did get that clarified, peaches from Chile, green onions from Mexico! Not a one to be had from the U.S.

Ecoli be dammed!

38 posted on 07/12/2014 9:01:44 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: VerySadAmerican

“With one stroke of his pen he can cause a pandemic. We are living in a dictatorship. I never dreamed it would happen. And just because lots of people still love Obama doesn’t mean it’s not a dictatorship. Not everyone hated Hitler.”

This country has undergone a Bolshevik revolution, and most don’t even see it. In 1917 the communists gained control of a few cities (as communication as well as population centers); the Obamunists have done the same here with the cities and media. Obama is widely disliked, but that won’t be reported; only a small number of perpetual ethnic malcontents and some VERY wealthy liberals are supporting him. His war on religion, families, and the middle class is very real.


39 posted on 07/13/2014 5:24:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: stanne

Bfl = bump for later. Bookmarks your place if you don’t have time to read, or helps you find the resource later. I am interested in your info about Catholic Charities. Makes sense that it is not the Catholic Church. Thanks.


40 posted on 07/13/2014 6:26:19 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

Gratia

CC is NOT the Church


41 posted on 07/13/2014 6:46:09 PM PDT by stanne
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