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California pastor, 2 others admit they tortured 13-year-old, forced him to dig own grave
nydailynews.com ^ | July 8, 2014 | Philip Caulfield

Posted on 07/18/2014 11:18:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

The thuggish pastor of a small Southern California church and two of his parishioners tortured a 13-year-old boy who lived at a church-run group home, savagely beating him, grinding salt into his raw wounds and forcing him to dig his own grave.

The pastor, Lonny Remmers, 56, and his two goons even tortured the teen during a group Bible study session, forcing him to sit in front of the others while they twisted his nipples with pliers, court documents show, according to the Los Angeles Times.

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1 posted on 07/18/2014 11:18:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I knew this stuff would happen once the DNC started taking over all of the churches.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 11:21:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

These bastards will do their time in SEG unfortunately....


3 posted on 07/18/2014 11:22:02 PM PDT by wardaddy (we will not take back our way of life through peaceful means.....i have 5 kids....i fear for them)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

May they never see the light of the sun again.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 11:23:24 PM PDT by wastedyears (Everything Obama does wrong is Bush's fault.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

from his linkedin page:

Pastor Lonny Remmers’ Summary

Fire Escape Ministries/Re-Entry Foundation moves into today’s social arena with a continued plan of delivering its Christian Aftercare Program based on Discipleship training founded on Scripture. Through our experience we have identified many of our Clients needs. We feel it is necessary to help meet these needs on several levels; these levels consist of Spiritual, Physical and Relational needs. This will be done with the foundation of Biblical principles through the Word of God.

We will utilize the proven materials of Aftercare Programs. These and other similar programs will be implemented for those in need of special guidance according to the same biblical principles.

We will act as a conduit between many different Prisons or Community-based programs and the Churches, helping those coming out of these programs be able to maintain some sort of structure in their reintegration into society and limit their return to their old lifestyles.

The program will consist of 12 months of strict Bible-based programming, as well as relational help and personal empowerment through 12 step programs, anger management, stress management, parenting, financial management training, and other practical counseling methods needed to help assist them to productively transition back into society.

The Ministry will use available resources to meet physical needs as well. These needs will consist of food, shelter, clothing, vocational training, job placement assistance, transportation and eventually legal and medical needs. With these added opportunities to help the Clients reintegrate into society we hope to take the recidivism rate of 85+% to a much lower rate of less than 20%.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 11:24:07 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I wonder if he ever read Luke 17:2 or Mark 9:42?
6 posted on 07/18/2014 11:25:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Remmers, who runs the Hart of Worship Community Church in Corona, was expected to be sentenced to two years in prison.

TWO YEARS?!?

TWO YEARS?!? For doing, to a 13 year old boy:

Two years... ...PLUS AN ETERNITY IN HELL!
7 posted on 07/18/2014 11:26:44 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The pastor, Lonny Remmers, 56, and his two goons even tortured the teen during a group Bible study session, forcing him to sit in front of the others while they twisted his nipples with pliers

When shopping for a Bible Study class for your young errant teen, I highly recommend avoiding the "Church of Zed"....


Pulp Fiction's 'Zed' & 'Gimp'


Hart of Worship's Pastor Lonny Lee Remmers

8 posted on 07/18/2014 11:39:32 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This makes me wonder if Pastor Lonny Lee Remmers is a faggot. What kind of stories do the other kids tell?


9 posted on 07/19/2014 12:15:21 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This is so evil...I’m speechless..no mere words can describe such a thing as this :-(


10 posted on 07/19/2014 12:43:36 AM PDT by Bobalu (Israel is the most long-suffering and peace loving nation on Earth.)
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To: Yossarian

His orders to scare the boy provided all three men the chance to fullfill every hurtful thing they could dream up. They all felt righteous and just in their cruelty, because it was suposedly for showing the teen how to live properly, ready to accept responsibility for all his actions. Two years is an insult to civilized behavior. Story doesn’t say who turned them in and why. I’m guessing it was the hospital. Moms too stupid or disconnected.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 12:57:34 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Never, ever trust a preacher named “Lonny”. No good can come of it.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 1:06:27 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

I don’t trust anybody who thinks they’re closer to GOD than I am.


13 posted on 07/19/2014 3:30:45 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road

‘I don’t trust anybody who thinks they’re closer to GOD than I am.’

I don’t trust anyone who is a member of the flock at a church and then does paid contracting work on it. You know they are there for the business.

I don’t trust anyone who during church services shouts Amen!, Tell it preacher! and then meets with the Sunday School teacher, who was married as was she, after church for some in depth injection of the.... He was a deacon.

I also don’t trust preachers who explain that God wants his people to prosper financially, give till it hurts he said and you can demand your monetary reward from God with interest whenever you wish.

I tend to be constantly looking for a new church for some reason.


14 posted on 07/19/2014 5:40:14 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Sounds like a general-purpose scumbag. See this from the OC Register:

Corona pastor, a former O.C. resident, indicted on investment fraud

Corona pastor Lonny Remmers, already facing a July trial in Riverside on kidnap and assault charges, has been indicted by a federal grand jury in a case in which he and four others are accused of defrauding investors out of millions of dollars.

Remmers, 56, was arrested June 5 and appeared in federal court in Riverside that day. He was ordered to report to federal court in Toledo, Ohio, on July 1.

Remmers, head of the Heart of Worship Community Church, was released after a judge denied the federal government’s request to keep him locked up. Court records show the government considers Remmers a flight risk. Church member Eric McNamara posted the $200,000 bail, court records show.


15 posted on 07/19/2014 5:42:38 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: oblomov
My first boss after college graduation was named Lonny. He was a real piece of work as well. The other people in the outfit were pretty decent or I wouldn't have stayed even the 16 months which I did.

To this day, I find myself doing things that irritated "Lonny."

16 posted on 07/19/2014 5:45:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

People name their kid “Lonnie” because they already used Ronnie, Bonnie, Connie, Donny and Jonny.


17 posted on 07/19/2014 5:51:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Berlin_Freeper

**Remmers, who runs the Hart of Worship Community Church in Corona,**

If only they let these men marry — then this wouldn’t happen ———oh, wrong church, sorry.


18 posted on 07/19/2014 6:02:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Yossarian
TWO YEARS?!?

Well it ain't like they was Papists.

/sarc for them that needs it

19 posted on 07/19/2014 7:39:03 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
“pastor” huh?

What Church? Beelzebub's Church of Darkness?

20 posted on 07/19/2014 8:57:59 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Rashputin

If only Fire Escape Ministries/Re-Entry Foundation preachers were allowed to get married . . .


21 posted on 07/19/2014 9:00:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

My church is the ranch and God rides shot gun with me daily, he knows everything I know and has seen everything I’ve seen. There’s not a single part of my life he’s not aware of. One thing I do know about God is he don’t fix flats and he don’t open gates, I’m driving this truck and those are my responsibilities.


22 posted on 07/19/2014 9:34:30 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I once did a kitchen remodel for a pastor in WA. state. On my fourth and final draw he had taken out ten percent off the total bill. He said that was my tithe to his church. I told him it didn't work that way as I was not a member of his church as I handed back the check. It's that or nothing was his reply. I put a mechanics lean on the property and he told me he did not care as he would never sell the property. The next day I sat down with the banker that held the first on the property and made a very good bid to buy the note. The banker called him and told him I was buying his note the next day and would demand him pay off the note and any leans. He called me up and called me everything he could put his tongue to but paid the bill plus 1/2 again the bill. Last thing he said was I was a Jew bastard as he gave me a bank check. I would rather work for a whore than a pastor as they know what it's like to get screwed.
23 posted on 07/19/2014 1:12:41 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I once did a kitchen remodel for a pastor in WA. state. On my fourth and final draw he had taken out ten percent off the total bill. He said that was my tithe to his church. I told him it didn't work that way as I was not a member of his church as I handed back the check. It's that or nothing was his reply. I put a mechanics lean on the property and he told me he did not care as he would never sell the property. The next day I sat down with the banker that held the first on the property and made a very good bid to buy the note. The banker called him and told him I was buying his note the next day and would demand him pay off the note and any leans. He called me up and called me everything he could put his tongue to but paid the bill plus 1/2 again the bill. Last thing he said was I was a Jew bastard as he gave me a bank check. I would rather work for a whore than a pastor as they know what it's like to get screwed.
24 posted on 07/19/2014 1:12:45 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: Dusty Road

I used to raise cattle and loved it easiest and most peaceful job I ever had.

Years ago my church was a golf course, I most often played alone because I could not stand the cursing that often accompanied a bad shot.

For some reason I always viewed golf as a mental and spiritual game, overcoming the handicaps your own mind places in front of you, I never really understood the reason it felt like a spiritual journey as I walked around the course but I knew God had to have had a hand in some of my nutty shots that actually worked as planned. I will always remember the great shots and have already forgotten the bad ones. Sorta like life isn’t it, routine, often boring then the unexpected occurs and makes all the other stuff immaterial.


25 posted on 07/19/2014 3:21:04 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Dusty Road

Bump


26 posted on 07/20/2014 8:44:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What is his Freeper screen name? (Just kidding.)


27 posted on 07/20/2014 8:47:18 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Time for an eye for an eye.

Then capital punishment.

They’re no better than any serial killer and deserve the same justice.


28 posted on 07/20/2014 6:15:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Sadly, it’s only going to get worse as the end times draws near.

Too many wolves fleecing the flock.


29 posted on 07/20/2014 6:18:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: markomalley

Throw away the key.


30 posted on 07/20/2014 6:18:39 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

‘Too many wolves fleecing the flock.’

Wish it weren’t so true.

I now go to a small Baptist church and the backbitin and gossip is fierce. Seems they have never read the verse about you notice the speck in your brother’s eye but not the beam in your own.

I have less patience with this type stuff the older I get and would vent my real thoughts about this stuff but I figure as long as they come to church at least there is a chance they might hear the message. If I let loose they will run home and not return, I do not mince words and I am not a wussy Christian. And, yes, I am judgmental of people when I know I am right. When I get angry, which I am slow to do, my stop button does not work.


31 posted on 07/21/2014 12:58:01 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Special place in Hell…


32 posted on 07/21/2014 4:24:34 AM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
I have less patience with this type stuff the older I get...

I hear you.

33 posted on 07/21/2014 5:21:11 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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