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IRS Settles with Atheists, Agrees to Crack Down on Churches for ‘Electioneering’
Christian News Network ^ | Heather Clark

Posted on 07/22/2014 2:07:59 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

WASHINGTON – The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has reached a settlement with a prominent atheist organization, agreeing to crack down churches and religious groups for infringements of its prohibition against ‘electioneering.’

As previously reported, the Freedom from Religion Foundation (FFRF), headquartered in Madison, Wisconsin, sued the IRS in 2012, asserting that many non-profit religious organizations have been “blatantly and deliberately flaunting … electioneering restrictions,” but the government has not enforced its rules pertaining to the matter.

According to the IRS website, “Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. The prohibition applies to all campaigns including campaigns at the federal, state and local level. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.”

However, while candidates may not be promoted or opposed, churches and ministries that obtain 501 (c)(3) status may speak out on political and moral issues and/or generally encourage others to vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at christiannews.net ...


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: irs; politicking

1 posted on 07/22/2014 2:07:59 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

Will they send it spies? I’m intrigued.


2 posted on 07/22/2014 2:09:08 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Faith Presses On

This IRS will do more for a flat tax than any media campaign.


3 posted on 07/22/2014 2:10:56 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Faith Presses On

No doubt an agreement was made between Obama’s Justice Department and the atheists only after prolonged and difficult negotiations.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 2:11:23 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Faith Presses On
So those Black Baptist Churches can't tell their parishioners to Vote Democrat anymore?
The IRS is going Racist, or this is for White Preachers who don't give Homos their ceremony.
Oh wait, that is Racist also.
5 posted on 07/22/2014 2:12:21 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Faith Presses On

Isn’t that special ... Church lady style.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 2:12:33 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Faith Presses On
I'm sure Holder's Justice Dept will look the other way for any open campaigning in Black churches
7 posted on 07/22/2014 2:13:27 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Faith Presses On

Note the clever use of a “ settlement” with a party that is not the subject of the newly- announced spying or penalties or enforcement actions The real parties in interest were not signatories to this settlement. A misuse of legal process


8 posted on 07/22/2014 2:14:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Faith Presses On
But left-wing non-profits are free to do as much "electioneering" as they want?

9 posted on 07/22/2014 2:14:53 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Faith Presses On

And here comes selective enforcement. No chance of this affecting Rev. Jackson, Rev. Sharpton and Rev. Jeremiah Wright.


10 posted on 07/22/2014 2:15:32 PM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: allendale
No doubt an agreement was made between Obama’s Justice Department and the atheists only after prolonged and difficult negotiations.

TRANSLATION: DOJ had to find someone had to be found to take dictation.

11 posted on 07/22/2014 2:15:32 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Faith Presses On

The rule prohibiting churches from advocating for any candidate is unconstitutional.


12 posted on 07/22/2014 2:16:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Faith Presses On

Maybe God will intervene and strike lightning upon all IRS buildings and turn the employees into dust.

Kinda like Sodom and Gomorrah.


13 posted on 07/22/2014 2:17:33 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Faith Presses On

“blatantly and deliberately flaunting … electioneering restrictions”

Uh, I b’lieve that would be “flouting” (openly disregarding), rather than “flaunting” (openly displaying”. Journalism...


14 posted on 07/22/2014 2:18:21 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: taxcontrol

“This IRS will do more for a flat tax than any media campaign.”

Congressmen make their “donations” by manipulating the tax code for interested parties. That’s why it is in hundreds of volumes and makes no sense whatsoever. Congress will never give up the power associated with having the IRS the way it is now. The rest of us will just have to suffer.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 2:21:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Faith Presses On

My advice to churches is to pay the tax and speak freely about the injustice of taxing speech, abortion, gay marriage, etc.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 2:23:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: P-Marlowe
The rule prohibiting churches from advocating for any candidate is unconstitutional.

You must think the constitution says something like:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

It should be fun watching the IRS go in a shut down churches.

17 posted on 07/22/2014 2:24:30 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: unixfox

From your keyboard to God’s eyes.


18 posted on 07/22/2014 2:25:37 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Faith Presses On
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. . .

. . . except when the speech is religious or conservatively political, the press is religious or in any way conservatives, or the assembly is religious or conservative, or the petition to the government is religious or conservative, or otherwise offensive to anyone not religious or conservative. — The Enlightened Progressive first of the co-equal (and not assumed by position to be of more importance than any other) Amendments to the Suggestions of Recommended Whims for the Dictator of the United Satrapies of America (and whomever else we can apply them to).

19 posted on 07/22/2014 2:56:57 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: taxcontrol

I was thinking of getting rid of the income tax and going to a national sales tax. Anyway of castrating the IRS.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 3:05:39 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: BitWielder1

That was my thought, too.


21 posted on 07/22/2014 3:07:55 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: Faith Presses On

This will either result in a court ruling that the IRS has no jurisdiction over what Church’s preach, or it will be one more step toward civil war.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 3:12:17 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Faith Presses On

Brought to you by LBJ’s War On GOD.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 3:18:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Faith Presses On

With the politicalization of everything in the Ten Commandments, and everything about morality in the Bible, what can be preached about in Church? Bingo? Oops. Taxable. Rummage sales. Taxable.

Shall we start employing IRS Sunday (and Saturday, for 7th Day Adventists and Jews) political officers, ala the USSR, to assure nothing wrong is said? Shall our pastors and rabbis be required to submit sermons to the IRS for pre-vetting before a word is uttered? Will the IRS issue regulation approved prayer books for all occasions to assure compliance? Will preachers have to get a Certified Public Advocacy license from the IRS before they can be allowed to speak from a pulpit?

This agreement is Anathema to our Republic. . . and any judge who signs off on it should be impeached.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 3:24:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

A real church of G_D should turn in there 501(c) paper work and follow G_D not man. But we could not have big fancy church buildings and big pay rolls than. I understand the 30 pieces of silver and the part about depart from me as I never knew you.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 3:29:31 PM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: lostboy61

I think there is something in the First Amendment about freedom of religion and a blurb about free speech. But they can not be used together?

I hope they do bring a lawsuit, they will lose for sure.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 3:36:23 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: lostboy61
A real church of G_D should turn in there 501(c) paper work and follow G_D not man. But we could not have big fancy church buildings and big pay rolls than.

I think they would be much better off doing so as well. That said I don't believe the founders would have tolerated this over reach by the feral gooburmunt using NPO status for tool of tyrants trying to silence the churches.

27 posted on 07/22/2014 3:59:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Faith Presses On

Only when a pastor endorse an individual candidate will the IRS take action.

Churches can always speak to issues like abortion and for a man and a woman forming a marriage, but they cannot endorse individuals or parties.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 4:25:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Churches can always speak to issues like abortion and for a man and a woman forming a marriage, but they cannot endorse individuals or parties.

Why not? Churches have every right to say anything they like.

29 posted on 07/22/2014 4:27:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

The IRS should begin with the Fountain Street ‘church’ here in Grand Rapids — the ACLU hq is right inside that abomination.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 4:38:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: allendale
No doubt an agreement was made between Obama’s Justice Department and the atheists only after prolonged and difficult negotiations.

Oh that is just crying out for a scenario script. . .

Fade into a conference room with several women and metrosexual, wimpy men around a generic, government issue conference table. The people are seated in straight backed metal chairs. The windows are covered in Venetian blinds. Aluminum concentric circular fluorescent fixtures from the 1950s hang over the table.

Off stage voice: "CUT! No! No! That's not realistic any more! Nobody will believe that! That's not Washington. . . that office exists only outside the beltway! Here's what we nee. . ."

Second voice, female "All right people, it's not working. Same time call for tomorrow. Strike the set!"

Fade Out.

Fade into a modern elegantly opulent walnut paneled conference room with the same people. The table is a single slab of ebony, and the people are seated in leather executive chairs. Tasteful window treatment consists of gorgeous drapes. Out the window is the White House. The IRS seal is centered on a tastefully lighted area on the wall behind the largest chair at the head of the table flanked by US Admiralty Flag and an IRS Flag. Lighting is provided at each chair by obviously expensive Tiffany executive desk lamps.

The scene opens as a harsh faced woman stands, paces, and speaks.

Justice Department and IRS attorney: "What would it take to make you guys drop your lawsuit so we can keep this below the tea-bagger radar?"

Atheists' attorney: "Here's a list of our unconstitutional blue sky demands."

Woman takes list and hands it to wimpy, metrosexual men and women on her side of the table.

Justice Department and IRS spokesperson: "Hey! This looks good! That was going to be our initial offer! Are you sure you don't want some walking around money for the next election? We were thinking something in the range of 100 to 200."

Atheist one "WOW! Everything?"

Atheist two "Uh, 100 to 200? What? Dollars?"

Justice Department and IRS spokesperson: "Millions."

Atheists all fall off of chairs.

Atheist two "Oh my God! $200 million!"

Atheist one "Sweet Jesus!"

Justice Department and IRS attorney: "Plus we'll toss in around $50 millions for your attorney's fees and court costs!"

Atheists' Attorney jumps out of his chair, onto the table, strikes TV preacher pose, hand in air.

Atheists' Attorney: "Praise the Lord and pass me the money! We'll take it!"

Fade to black as the IRS, DOJ, Atheists, and all attorneys link arms and skip off singing "We Shall Over Come" which segues into a haunting sound fading in from the Right of "Prase The Lord and Pass the Ammunition" growing louder and louder.

The End

31 posted on 07/22/2014 5:00:31 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Great!Very well written. New Obama scam . Encourage your friends to sue the government and quickly settle with a 10-15% kickback


32 posted on 07/22/2014 5:27:41 PM PDT by allendale
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To: fwdude

They already do spy on churches, even attending services and recording what is said.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 8:30:19 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Faith Presses On

All they need to do is go into any black church in Memphis during election season, and every one running for dog catcher to Governor will be there. Not all black either because just being a D is going to get you that spot on the podium.

All illegal of course, but nothing is every done.

Let a R do it and all H breaks loose in the media, which is silent when the D’s do it.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 6:19:01 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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