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Jessa Duggar's Beau Ben Seewald Deletes Anti-Catholic Statements From Facebook After Backlash
The Christian Post ^ | 7/24/14 | Sami K. Martin

Posted on 07/29/2014 4:02:28 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

Jessa Duggar is currently courting Ben Seewald, a very strong Christian with very strong views on things. His views on the Catholic faith, however, recently caused a social media scandal and Seewald deleted the comments he had posted to his Facebook page.

"Where Catholics depart from Scripture, I will in no way support, but will call them out because I love them and desire that they be turned from their deadly errors," Seewald wrote. He also noted that he disagreed with the claim that Jesus' mother Mary was a "sinless being. I have nothing against individuals who are Catholic," he continued. "I know a lot of Catholics who are great people. What I DO have a problem with is the teaching that man can merit God's favor through his own works or the works of other fallen men."

Seewald was still not through expressing his disappointment with the Catholic tradition.

"I DO have a problem with the teaching that man can come to God through Mary or any other person besides Jesus … I DO have a problem with the deification of Mary as a sinless being. Mary herself admitted her need for a Savior. If she had no sin, she would need no Savior," he concluded.

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To: JudyinCanada

Not sinless, though.


21 posted on 07/29/2014 4:26:40 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Telepathic Intruder
>"Why would God put his only Son in a sinful world?"

http://biblehub.com/john/3-16.htm

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


A love so great it drove his #1 angel over creation into a murderously insane fit of jealousy!

22 posted on 07/29/2014 4:27:27 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Faith Presses On

As a Catholic, I may disagree with him (and he with me), but his posts are not “anti-Catholic.”

It’s a theological disagreement, and, bluntly, one that is not relevant to a person’s ultimate destination.


23 posted on 07/29/2014 4:28:26 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Faith Presses On
Oh yeah....God sent his SON to be born of a SINFUL woman!!! Do you Baptists EVER think about that??? Or is your HATRED of all things CATHOLIC BLINDING you to THINK for YOURSELVES!!!!

Close your eyes and just THINK WHY GOD would have HIS ONLY SON be BORN of a SINFILLED WOMAN!!!! It's really ridiculous.....even my Jewish husband understands it.

24 posted on 07/29/2014 4:29:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Ann?


25 posted on 07/29/2014 4:30:40 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: longfellowsmuse

The “Hail Mary
comes DIRECTLY from Elizabeth John the BAPTISTS’S MOTHER at the VISITATION!!!


26 posted on 07/29/2014 4:31:14 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Legatus

WHAT??? I go to Mass EVERY day, I have NEVER heard that!!


27 posted on 07/29/2014 4:32:04 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: JudyinCanada

Riiiight.... Jesus’s MOTHER can’t do a THING for you......yeah.


28 posted on 07/29/2014 4:33:15 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: JudyinCanada
Not trying to offend anyone, but it seems a little weird to ask a dead person to pray for us, be it Mary or “saints”.

As I read the Bible, the term "saints" is not applied to dead Christians that have some miracles associated with them. "Saints" just refers to the believers. You and I are saints. The original Greek term simply means "holy one" or "set apart" or "sanctified". We are made holy through through His blood when we accept his sacrifice and become part of His Body (the church).

29 posted on 07/29/2014 4:34:22 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: JudyinCanada

Without knowing how your acquaintances “pray” it is impossible to know whether they are following Catholic doctrine. Sadly, it is sometimes the case that Catholics do not know the tenants of their own religion. I have met fellow Catholics for instance who are unaware that the church teaches that the eucharist is the actual body and blood of Jesus not merely a symbol.

Maybe you will think I am weird, but my mother died when I was seventeen and yes at times I ask her to pray for me, I think you would be surprised at how many people ask their much loved relatives that have passed on for strength here on Earth.


30 posted on 07/29/2014 4:34:25 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: yldstrk

Yes.


32 posted on 07/29/2014 4:38:04 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Ann Archy
The “Hail Mary comes DIRECTLY from Elizabeth John the BAPTISTS’S MOTHER at the VISITATION!!!

The big difference is that Elizabeth was talking to Mary directly - she was not praying to her after she was dead... And the Hail Mary is a bit different, in that Elizabeth did not ask Mary to pray for her. So while a part of that ritual comes from Scripture, not all of it does.

33 posted on 07/29/2014 4:39:43 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Faith Presses On

How did he get the right to limit the powers of God?


35 posted on 07/29/2014 4:42:57 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Ann Archy
Not sure if serious... lol

Granted this is from the text of the "old" Mass but it's still there:

To us also Thy sinful servants, who put our trust in the multitude of Thy mercies, vouchsafe to grant some part and fellowship with Thy holy Apostles and Martyrs: with John, Stephen, Matthias, Barnabas, Ignatius, Alexander, Marcellinus, Peter, Felicitas, Perpetua, Agatha, Lucy, Agnes, Cecilia, Anastasia, and all Thy Saints. Into their company we beseech Thee admit us, not considering our merits, but freely pardoning our offenses. Through Christ our Lord.

By whom, O Lord, Thou dost always create, sanctify +, quicken +, bless +, and bestow upon us all these good things.

Through Him +, and with Him +, and in Him +, is unto Thee, God the Father + Almighty, in the unity of the Holy + Ghost, all honor and glory. World without end.

There it is in black and white for all the world to see, the big secret of Catholicism... we don't merit salvation.

36 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:03 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Ann Archy
Elizabeth said “Hail Mary FULL of GRACE”......one CAN’T be FULL of GRACE with SIN on their soul......you have been taught very badly......sorry to break it to you, but the UGLY side of prejudice is IGNORANCE.

Grace is something God gives to all of us. It is by grace that we are all saved. She was full of grace at that point because she had been overshadowed by the Holy Spirit and had conceived the Savior. I have no doubt that God cleansed her from her sin prior to her conception.

However, I think you err in drawing the conclusion that a) Mary lived a sinless life until that point, and b) that she lived a sinless life after the birth of Christ (not to mention c)that she was assumed bodily into Heaven without seeing death.)

37 posted on 07/29/2014 4:44:46 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Ann Archy

You really need to calm down. Just because I do not believe Mary was sinless throughout her life doesn’t mean I am showing disdain for her. As the Bible says, she was blessed above all women. But that does not say she lived a sinless life.

There was only one sinless Person, and that was Jesus. If it were possible for ANY person to live a sinless life without Christ, then Christ died in vain because we have the ability to live a sinless life without His death,and would need no forgiveness.


38 posted on 07/29/2014 4:48:35 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Faith Presses On

“What I DO have a problem with is the teaching that man can merit God’s favor through his own works or the works of other fallen men.”

Uh, who teaches that? The Catholic Church does not teach that we merit anything BY OUR OWN WORKS. The works are God’s. We cooperate with them.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 4:49:08 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: CA Conservative

This is what I understand a saint to be as well.


40 posted on 07/29/2014 4:49:47 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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