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Let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.'
Rorate Caeli ^ | 7/30/14 | New Catholic

Posted on 07/30/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by ebb tide

Do you all remember Cardinal Hummes? Yes, the Pope's greatest friend in the College of Cardinals, the Franciscan who inspired the papal name "Francis", the man who was right by the Pope's side in the loggia in the memorable evening of his election. As an emeritus, his influence is obviously a more understated one. Anyway, he granted an extensive interview days ago (July 27) to a paper in his native Brazil, and the answers are just remarkable, particularly this one, on same-sex "marriages":

If Jesus were alive today, would he be in favor of gay marriage?

I don't know, I formulate no hypothesis on this. Who must answer this is the Church in its entirety. We must take care not to raise issues individually, because this ends up creating more difficulties for us to reach a valid conclusion. I think we must get together, listen to people, those who have an interest, the bishops. It is the Church that must indicate the ways, and there must be a way for all.

Perfectly clear.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: francis; homos; hummes; marriage

1 posted on 07/30/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

>>Pointed to as the Brazilian Cardinal nearest to the new Pope, His Eminence, Claudio Cardinal Hummes, 78, says that the Church “does not work” as it is now, and its entire structure is asking for changes.<<

http://www.aleteia.org/en/religion/documents/interview-with-claudio-cardinal-hummes-on-the-election-of-pope-francis-578001


2 posted on 07/30/2014 7:00:00 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
If Jesus were alive today, would he be in favor of gay marriage?


Next question.
3 posted on 07/30/2014 7:11:48 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: ebb tide

Just like the Mahdi, this pope is looking more and more like a Trojan Horse.


4 posted on 07/30/2014 7:11:52 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: ebb tide
If Jesus were alive today, would he be in favor of gay marriage?

Uh, no.

Next question.
5 posted on 07/30/2014 7:12:23 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t he the one who would have the Church be more politically active and LEFT? A Socialist?


6 posted on 07/30/2014 7:13:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Isn’t he the one of the many who would have the Church be more politically active and LEFT? A Socialist?

There. Fixed it.

7 posted on 07/30/2014 7:21:03 PM PDT by scouter
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To: ebb tide

Spoken like a true advocate of Situation Ethics.


8 posted on 07/30/2014 7:34:13 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: ebb tide
If Jesus were alive today, would he be in favor of gay marriage? I don't know, I formulate no hypothesis on this.

Apparently he has apostatized.

9 posted on 07/30/2014 7:42:16 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

Guilt by association?

Hmmmm...Jesus spent a lot of time with sinners.


10 posted on 07/30/2014 7:42:36 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NTHockey

In a way this reminds me of NYC Cardinal O’Connor. When he stated the Catholic Church’s stands against abortion and homosexuality, he was a BAAAAD Cardinal. When he spoke out against Pres. Reagan’s “Star Wars” program and bashed him and Pres. Bush Sr. for not “doing enough” for the poor, he was a GOOOOOD Cardinal.


11 posted on 07/30/2014 7:47:24 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus is alive and wouldn’t understand why two men or two women would insist on engaging what has historically been a fertility ritual that predates the Church and Jesus himself.


12 posted on 07/30/2014 8:31:05 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: SumProVita
..Jesus spent a lot of time with sinners.

Every time somebody brings that up I have to wonder: does that mean sin is good?

13 posted on 07/30/2014 8:38:13 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
..Jesus spent a lot of time with sinners. Every time somebody brings that up I have to wonder: does that mean sin is good?

It means he spent time with those who needed to be saved. In other words, he wasn't here to preach to the choir.

14 posted on 07/30/2014 8:50:39 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus IS alive today.


15 posted on 07/30/2014 9:19:55 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Doomonyou
It means he spent time with those who needed to be saved.

Yeah, but proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense.

16 posted on 07/30/2014 11:18:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: Gamecock; metmom
Do you all remember Cardinal Hummes? Yes, the Pope's greatest friend in the College of Cardinals, the Franciscan who inspired the papal name "Francis", the man who was right by the Pope's side in the loggia in the memorable evening of his election. As an emeritus, his influence is obviously a more understated one. Anyway, he granted an extensive interview days ago (July 27) to a paper in his native Brazil, and the answers are just remarkable, particularly this one, on same-sex "marriages":
If Jesus were alive today, would he be in favor of gay marriage?

I don't know, I formulate no hypothesis on this. Who must answer this is the Church in its entirety. We must take care not to raise issues individually, because this ends up creating more difficulties for us to reach a valid conclusion. I think we must get together, listen to people, those who have an interest, the bishops. It is the Church that must indicate the ways, and there must be a way for all.

IB4TPCWM

17 posted on 07/31/2014 5:24:39 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

Soynds like he is in the PC(USA)!


18 posted on 07/31/2014 5:44:36 AM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Every time somebody brings that up I have to wonder: does that mean sin is good?

______________________

If you have to wonder about that, you’re already in big trouble. ;-o


19 posted on 07/31/2014 7:52:52 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Here is what I was getting at.

When a member of the clergy goes yucking it up with an enemy of Christ, giving him comfort and affirmation in his sins, somebody invariably brings up Jesus having lunch with a tax man or something. Other favorites are “He who is without sin cast the first stone,” and “Judge not, lest ye be judged,” all intended to tie our consciences and normalize support for baby-killing, fudge-packing socialists.


20 posted on 07/31/2014 8:19:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: SumProVita
Hmmmm...Jesus spent a lot of time with sinners.

And told them to *Go and sin no more*.

No way, no shape, did He ever endorse sin.

Do we have to associate with sinners? As long as we're in this world, that's the reason we're here.

Do we validate or condone their sin? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

21 posted on 07/31/2014 5:20:22 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

You’re preaching to the choir. ;-)


22 posted on 07/31/2014 7:35:29 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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