Skip to comments.Vatican Urges Priests To Clamp Down On Excessive Emotions During The Sign of Peace
Posted on 08/02/2014 10:31:19 AM PDT by Steelfish
Vatican Urges Priests To Clamp Down On Excessive Emotions During The Sign of Peace
By Josephine Mckenna | August 1 VATICAN CITY In an effort to insure a more sober ritual, the Vatican has urged bishops to clamp down on singing, moving around and other casual expressions of affection when the sign of peace is exchanged during Mass.
The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments led by Spanish Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera, has sent a letter to bishops around the world expressing concern about what it considers to be ritual abuses.
Among them, he said, were turning the sign of peace into a song of peace, the priest leaving the altar during the interlude, or use of the ritual to offer congratulations at weddings or condolences at funerals.
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Now if they would only issue a statement that contrary to the assertions of Nancy Pelosi, abortion is not sacred to the Roman Catholic Church.
What do they want, the Muslim sign of peace....chop off your neighbors hand or ear or even his head?
The article didn’t appear to mention other “abuses” that some have pointed out, such as high-fives, fist-bumps, and other now-common but non-conventional greetings ... Also, with the celebrant & congregants roaming the aisles as it were, it’s felt that the focus is being removed from the consecrated Christ on the altar.
As to the claim that hand-shaking or simply acknowledging your neighbor is going to result in rampant spreading of disease, you’ll probably get as many germs just from handling things around the pews at the service
I agree wholeheartedly. Which is one reason I’d like to have at least the option of a Latin Mass every week.
I agree, but it’s being taken two ways: either rein it in, or go on with what you’re doing, because the Vatican is so indirect and “sensitive” that it now no longer gives clear guidance.
However, that said, I hate the “Grip and Grin,” and I wish they had at least moved it to the Offertory, which was the suggestion they rejected. There’s usually some goofy woman who will come swimming up to you, clutch your hand moistly, and try to stare deep into your eyes...ick.
I’d like to get rid of the whole thing - it is optional, btw - but if they have to have it, it would have been much better if they’d accepted the suggestion of moving it to the Offertory.
Yes, stop this heartfelt nonsense. Keep it phony.
A pity you can't seem to grasp that.
They don’t show any “peace sign” at daily Mass on EWTN.
**Among them, he said, were turning the sign of peace into a song of peace, the priest leaving the altar during the interlude, or use of the ritual to offer congratulations at weddings or condolences at funerals.**
Wish peace to one or two people only. They are stand-ins for someone you really do need to make peace with.
it never hurts to sit by yourself either — especially at daily Mass.
The real meaning for us.
And we must remember that the “Peace be with you.” was spoken to the apostles and disciples who were hidden away after his death.
On Sunday or Holy Days of Obligation it's virtually impossible to not only sit alone (for one thing I have the family with me), but most times there are infants crying or people fidgeting around, causing a distraction. Also, it the times we so sit away from others, most times the late comers ten to sit pretty close for some reason.
I do notice, however, that there is almost always near silence when the Priest is breaking the Bread to prepare for Holy Communion. Interesting. You may have noticed the same.
This is supposed to say:
Also, at the times we do sit away from others, most times the late comers tend to sit pretty close for some reason
Sorry for the typo’s.
I always liked daily Mass - no sermon and very few people around to annoy me. And if you’re lucky enough to be in an old church, you have the beneficial effects of beauty, quiet and lovely meditation.
People do that at movies, as well. Herding instinct, I guess.
We have a short sermon and a new church, but the setting doesn’t really matter, unless the building was falling down like in our previous church.
I remember those days with five children. We sat right in front of the cry room so we could retreat quickly with a child when they were misbehaving.
Well, setting is very important to me. I do seek out very old dark churches with red stained glass windows and the heavy velvet on the drapes of the confessional. I imagine this is very generational. I was in school prior to Vatican 2 in a very urban environment; most of the churches were built by Italian-Americans!
What does who want?
Agree. I simply fold my hands.
2 Samuel has some interesting takes on such "displays"
14 Wearing a linen ephod, David was dancing before the Lord with all his might, 15 while he and all Israel were bringing up the ark of the Lord with shouts and the sound of trumpets.
20 When David returned home to bless his household, Michal daughter of Saul came out to meet him and said, How the king of Israel has distinguished himself today, going around half-naked in full view of the slave girls of his servants as any vulgar fellow would!
21 David said to Michal, It was before the Lord, who chose me rather than your father or anyone from his house when he appointed me ruler over the Lords people IsraelI will celebrate before the Lord. 22 I will become even more undignified than this, and I will be humiliated in my own eyes. But by these slave girls you spoke of, I will be held in honor.
23 And Michal daughter of Saul had no children to the day of her death.
Trying to maintain personal decorum when worshiping the Lord is a fools errand and diminishes the value of the worship. Not all can allow themselves to let awe of God to take them to special places of worship - no sense in curbing those who do.
I am suspicious of the citations to fragmentary pieces of Scripture. Scripture must be taken as as a whole with tradition, ritual, and revelation. While the inculturation of local customs and practices into liturgical worship is understandable, the central point of the Catholic Mass, is the Eucharist. The very presence of Christ- body, blood, soul, and Divinity. No Eucharist, no Church. Hence reverence and decorum are indispensable to worship. This is not a form of “Joel Osteen” entertainment.
I have to admit I'm a bit surprised. Many here won't hesitate to quote the Old Covenant. I guess when David asserted that he would worship God with all he had, even if it was perceived as undignified by those who watched, he was just getting in touch with his inner clown. Perhaps you should go and read the whole bit to keep it from appearing to be a "fragmentary piece of Scripture. On the other hand, Jesus did berate the Pharisees for trying to appear to be way too pious for "show and decorum".
If you feel the Holy Spirit moving you to worship, I say you should follow where it leads you. One must assume that, being the most loving Father imaginable, God wants us to rejoice in body and soul when we honor Him. Those who think different either miss the message of His Grace, or take themselves way too seriously.
Just my opinion - not a Theologian, but I have been through Scripture - both in-whole and in fragments (like those who have some favorite pieces of Scripture to keep them company while walking past the graveyard of Satan's domain we live in.). I've been known to toss out the occasional "AMEN!" and to raise my hands in praise and worship myself - my early Catholic upbringing made me feel self conscious at first, but I got over it. Won't be rolling in the aisles or speaking in tongues, but I find an unabashed (ala David) rejoicing during worship to be refreshing and uplifting.
Context matters. The Mass is a re-enactment of the Last Supper. The eve of His death and Crucifixion. There is nothing to suggest backslapping festivity in commemorating this Divine sacrifice.