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Barbarians at The Gate
Our Sunday Visitor ^ | 8/20/14 | Greg Erlandson

Posted on 08/24/2014 9:28:10 AM PDT by marshmallow

ISIS leader’s terror in Iraq, threat to ‘march on Rome’ is forcing Western leaders to take action

It may sound perverse, but perhaps we owe a small note of thanks to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the head of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Like a bullet whistling overhead, the ruthless rise of ISIS under al-Baghdadi has had the effect of concentrating the fretful and forgetful minds of Western leaders. Despite the various terrors inflicted by al-Qaida, the Taliban and other radical Muslim groups over the years, and despite the spreading regional war between Islam’s Sunni and Shia factions, America and Europe have been losing interest in what seems like an endless fratricidal slaughter.

It is too soon to tell how the Sunni-Shia wars will end, but it is clear that Americans are war weary, and so is the rest of the West. Dealing with IEDs and suicide bombers and ungrateful local populaces has grown thin, and a general retreat has been sounded.

But al-Baghdadi has reminded the world of the barbarian at its gates. How barbarian? Even al-Qaida disowns ISIS as too extreme. ISIS fighters have turned the regional conflicts of Syria and Iraq into charnel houses of death and destruction.

As a petition written by Robert George on the website iraqrescue.org puts it, ISIS “is conducting a campaign of genocide against Christians, Yazidis and others in Iraq. In its fanatical effort to establish a caliphate, ISIS/ISIL has engaged in crimes against humanity by deliberately causing mass starvation and dehydration, and by committing unconscionable acts of barbarism against noncombatants, including defenseless women, children and elderly persons.”

With its recent occupation of the ancient Iraqi city of Mosul, ISIS has magnified the much larger war against Christians in the Middle East that has been going on for years. For the............

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TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: islam

1 posted on 08/24/2014 9:28:10 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
There Will Be No Peace Until There Is No Islam.
2 posted on 08/24/2014 9:37:39 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

I’m of the opinion that a crucial element of the pacification/rehabilitation of Japan after the war was the admission by the Emperor that he was just a person, not a god.

Proper subjugation of Islam requires (among other things) that Mecca and Medina be “nuked until they glow in the daylight”, to demonstrate that “Allah” has no power over the infidels and thus is a fraud.


3 posted on 08/24/2014 9:46:55 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: blam

There Will Be No Peace Until There Is No Islam.
And, then, there will not be peace but one of the demons’ scourge will have been stopped.


4 posted on 08/24/2014 9:47:55 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: marshmallow

Barbarians are INSIDE the gate.


5 posted on 08/24/2014 9:52:11 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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6 posted on 08/24/2014 9:53:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: marshmallow

The time is past due for Europe to take the lead of this.


7 posted on 08/24/2014 10:02:51 AM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: marshmallow

Good article. I think the Christian world is waking up and is getting ready to defend itself. Maybe. I pray it is. In the last few weeks working with our teens, they are realizing what is going on with ISIS and we have talked about it in our Summer meetings. We will see.....


8 posted on 08/24/2014 10:15:41 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: marshmallow
It is too soon to tell how the Sunni-Shia wars will end,...

Actually, that one's easy.

They'll end when all adherents of one side or the other are dead.

9 posted on 08/24/2014 10:17:38 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mountainlion
Yep...and have been for some time. Be they Mexican and Central American drug gangs, undercover Chicom special forces (remember the Cox report?) or Muzzie sleepers, our non-existent border and coastal defenses are welcome mats for our enemies.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

10 posted on 08/24/2014 10:27:06 AM PDT by wku man ("Weenie in a Hybrid" by 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWdLDSB_6gY)
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To: DuncanWaring
Proper subjugation of Islam requires (among other things) that Mecca and Medina be “nuked until they glow in the daylight”, to demonstrate that “Allah” has no power over the infidels and thus is a fraud.

Actually. that would have the opposite effect, as Islamic prophecy predicts the destruction of Mecca.

11 posted on 08/24/2014 11:35:11 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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Does that prophecy say that after the destruction of Mecca comes the Final Judgement?

If so, what happens to their “religion” when there’s no Day of Judgement after the destruction of Mecca?


12 posted on 08/24/2014 12:07:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Does that prophecy say that after the destruction of Mecca comes the Final Judgement?

It is just prior to their idea of a rapture.

If so, what happens to their “religion” when there’s no Day of Judgement after the destruction of Mecca?

all faithful Muslims will have been raptured off the planet. The rest will have to fight and die 'honorably' to attain heaven (martyrdom is a get-out-of-jail-free card, you know).

There is a bit about it here.

Forgive me if I am vague - it has been many years since I last took a crack at the koran and hadiths. But the destruction of the ka'ba (and in places, Mecca, is part of their prophetic expectations.

13 posted on 08/24/2014 12:35:37 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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So destroying Mecca would not be enough to persuade them that Islam is a scam?

Islam is a cancer on mankind. One cannot coexist with cancer. Either the cancer is destroyed, or you die.

As Lincoln said “This country cannot remain half-slave and half-free; it must some day be either all-slave or all-free”.

Expanding on that thought, the world cannot remain half-Muslim and half-non-Muslim. It must eventually be either all-Muslim or all-non-Muslim.

Which is your preference?


14 posted on 08/24/2014 12:44:15 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
So destroying Mecca would not be enough to persuade them that Islam is a scam?

No, predictably, it will set off a firestorm, as at that point, the only way they can attain heaven is all-out jihad - every single one of them (not just their radicals).

Islam is a cancer on mankind. One cannot coexist with cancer. Either the cancer is destroyed, or you die.

Agreed.

As Lincoln said “This country cannot remain half-slave and half-free; it must some day be either all-slave or all-free”. Expanding on that thought, the world cannot remain half-Muslim and half-non-Muslim. It must eventually be either all-Muslim or all-non-Muslim.

Agreed.

Which is your preference?

I serve YHWH. My preference has nothing to do with it. But it gives me comfort to know YHWH's preference: See Ps 83, Ez 38-39.

What you see forming is predicted. The Caliphate will rise to come fully against Israel. The PS 83 and Magog wars will happen. The 'desert by the sea' (area of Medina and Mecca) will be destroyed... If those are gone, the most holy place left on earth for the Muslims will be Jerusalem... And there they will come to find out their error... Too little, too late, when they meet the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

15 posted on 08/24/2014 1:14:55 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: marshmallow

Miss me now?


16 posted on 08/24/2014 10:48:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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