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Elderly husband and wife plan first “couple” euthanasia, despite not being terminally ill
The Deacon's Bench ^ | September 27, 2014 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 09/27/2014 1:46:14 PM PDT by NYer

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To: freedumb2003

I was being sarcastic and making a sad joke, and as long as these people are alive they are of today’s people, I never said anything about a “generation”.

By the way, what years is the span that the “greatest generation” was born in?


41 posted on 09/27/2014 3:18:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: freedumb2003

” not the hurry hurry generation you seem to want to lump them in with.”


What on earth is the “hurry,hurry generation” ?

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42 posted on 09/27/2014 3:23:56 PM PDT by Mears
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To: jtal
They have plenty to fear if they go through with this.

My thoughts too.
43 posted on 09/27/2014 3:28:28 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: PapaNew

I don’t know. I didn’t see it that way, but I guess maybe. There does seem to be a lot of support (spoken and unspoken) in the media and entertainment industries for suicide, euthanasia, abortion…


44 posted on 09/27/2014 3:33:54 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Depends on what the meaning of "IS" is ~ Þ)
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To: NYer
Perhaps those family members lived far away and could not make it in time; perhaps they simply could not look death in the face.

It takes faith to be calm around death, so what you say about not being able to look death in the face is so true.
45 posted on 09/27/2014 3:35:16 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: freedumb2003

Supporter also.


46 posted on 09/27/2014 3:39:40 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: NYer

“we both fear of the future”

One of the consequences of the secularism that reigns in Belgium and so many other places is that without faith we can be overwhelmed by fear, thinking we’re all alone. The couple also are probably afraid of how cold their Post-Christian, utilitarian society is. Euthanasia is the logical outgrowth of abortion. The intelligentsia talk about how they evolve into higher beings without faith, but when they defend abortion and the like, all you notice is a bunch of FEARFUL what ifs.


47 posted on 09/27/2014 3:47:22 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: NYer
they have the support of their three adult children who say they would be unable to care for either parent if they became widowed.

wonder how much that knowledge had to do with their decision?

How wonderful to raise three kids - only to be told - shove off as soon as you need help...

"Well, our kids won't be there to help whichever one of us is left behind. They're not willing to help us live but willing to see us die. What's to live for?" -

48 posted on 09/27/2014 3:50:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: PapaNew
One thing I don't like about the movie Notebook, an otherwise pretty good movie.

"Notebook" went south for me when he shoves her off to a nursing home at her first stage of Alzheimer's. Seems he could have easily hired a live in aide - or a 'daytime aide' - allowing her much more time at home. He didn't even wait until the going got tough -

49 posted on 09/27/2014 3:53:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maine-iac7

He checked himself into the same nursing home.


50 posted on 09/27/2014 3:59:42 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Depends on what the meaning of "IS" is ~ Þ)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Zeke Emanuel can't be far from 75.....I can see the headline now:

Never Mind

or "90 is the new 75"

51 posted on 09/27/2014 4:15:16 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: maine-iac7

Good point. Never thought of that. I think, though, that is counterbalanced by his choice to live there with her.

I like the whole movie until the very end, first, when they’re dancing he uncharacteristically panics when she loses it, and second, his inferred voluntary death thing.


52 posted on 09/27/2014 4:37:46 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: PapaNew

Seems to me he went into her room to be near her as he had everyday of her illness. I didn’t have the feeling he went specifically to die with her.


53 posted on 09/27/2014 4:57:55 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel

Maybe not, but I didn’t like the strong inference and sympathy of doing so - consistent with our popular culture.


54 posted on 09/27/2014 5:05:57 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate over unjust law & government in the forum of ideas)
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To: PapaNew

My husband hasn’t been the same since his stroke. Once in a while, he’ll start watching a documentary or something else that he used to enjoy before the stroke. For a little while, everything seems so normal. We have conversation. His speech is still messed up, but when he’s clear-headed, I can understand him. He understands things. It’s a real treat. And then he’ll turn on something like My Little Pony, and I’ve lost him again. I don’t always react the same way. I won’t bore you with the details, but I don’t think there is a characteristic reaction. We’ve been riding this roller coaster for six years, and every twist and turn still feels like the first time. When “Noah” panicked, I could relate. I don’t think you ever get used to it.


55 posted on 09/27/2014 6:23:59 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Depends on what the meaning of "IS" is ~ Þ)
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To: nclaurel

That’s the way it seemed to me too.


56 posted on 09/27/2014 6:25:42 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Depends on what the meaning of "IS" is ~ Þ)
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To: NYer

If you cannot run a marathon in less than 6 hours, run a mile in less than 7 minutes, bench press your body weight and touch your toes with your knees locked, you are wasting oxygen. Thanks for asking and I cannot do any of the above. Once upon a time, they were all easy. Now they’re not and only social norms and conventions force me to be a waster of oxygen !


57 posted on 09/27/2014 7:05:48 PM PDT by jlindseyx1942 (Namaste)
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To: freedumb2003

Well, I guess I’m not politically correct then.


58 posted on 09/27/2014 8:56:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Ah, that Culture of Death again, where people become objects.


59 posted on 09/28/2014 4:49:25 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
At the age of 89 and 86 with their infirmities and having spent the last 64 years together, if that is their personal wish, then why not make that occasion a festive one for both of them and let them pass on together in peace but in a more humane way than what they have chosen?

The best response to that question, is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:


Suicide

Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.

If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.

60 posted on 09/28/2014 5:13:44 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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