Posted on 01/14/2015 5:13:53 AM PST by Gamecock
Bump
They are all theological pussies?
Hair and teeth?
There’s a youtube video out there of one of these women visionist “prophets” (I forget which one) getting called out in front of a large crowd by JD Farag as he literally to her face calls her a deceiver and false prophet. The reaction of that woman was exactly what you’d expect from a Hillary Clinton. Totally classy!
This is a most valuable article (read it earlier this week) and I’m glad you posted it here. Husbands who don’t already know need to understand there are real issues with Beth Moore. It’s not popular to say, but we still have the God-given responsibility to lead our wives spiritually. I’m thankful my wife listens and values my opinion on these matters. I know that’s not the case in every marriage.
Here’s another warning about Beth Moore:
“Why Beth Moore and Not Me? The Danger of Claiming to Receive Direct Revelation”
http://www.donotbesurprised.com/2014/01/why-beth-moore-and-not-me-danger-of.html
While searching for the linked article above, I discovered this tweet from Phil Johnson, Executive Director of John MacArthur’s Grace to You:
“The main trouble in the church today is not the wolfishness of the wolves; it’s the sheepishness of the sheep.”
Later he followed that tweet up with:
“Some survivor-bloggers misconstrued my “sheepishness” Tweet. My point: Wolfish doctrines would get nowhere if not for ovine apathy.”
I have never heard of her because I do not listen to preachers who write books to sell and make millions.
But I have no doubt there are many of this type out there, there must be, other wise there would not be so many books that I won`t buy.
“The main trouble in the church today is not the wolfishness of the wolves; it’s the sheepishness of the sheep.”
How profound.
2 Tim 4:3; For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
We're certainly living in interesting times, eh?
I do have a 365 Day Devotional by Sarah Young which I have enjoyed. I like the fact that it does give Scripture reference for each devotional that I can then turn to and read for myself.
There is general and special revelation. Either of those can happen through direct revelation. Are we saying that as Christians the Holy Spirit does not direct us, teach us, speak to us? Agreed, this revelation we receive as Christians from the Spirit must always align with God’s general revelation given to us through scripture. It can never be in opposition to scripture... but I’m not ready to deny that the Holy Spirit was given to us to teach, direct, and grow us as Christians. In guidance that applies often to just us.
You are correct.
But if you look at the quotes they are presented like a new revelation for all of God’s people. If that is the case we need to open the canon of Scripture and add the Beth’s Epistle to the American Church.
Good listening.
I found their very early program, "Happiness Questing", helpful.
What do the below all have in common?
Rich white people with good teeth.
I can't believe I'm arguing for Beth Moore. She very well may say things that I theologically disagree with. I just didn't see a real problem with what I read. But maybe I'm missing it?
Like I say... I'm not an ardent Beth Moore fan. I'm probably neutral.
“But if you look at the quotes they are presented like a new revelation for all of God’s people. If that is the case we need to open the canon of Scripture and add the Beth’s Epistle to the American Church.”
BINGO!!!
The canon of Scripture is closed! If people would spend more time on the old revelation they would see through the new.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
What precisely does she say that is being portrayed as “scripture” that needs to be added to the canon? What does she say that is new revelation?
“Sabbath moments.”
Start with that. She is practically saying “Thus sayeth the Lord.”
My issues with her are probably toward the simplicity of her teaching, and the fact that she gets rich selling it. But that's a different issue. I don't believe she believes or anyone really believes she is writing scripture that needs to be added to the canon. Again.... just my opinion.
Who know... you guys have a great "sabbath moment". Just kiddin... have a great day!
I find her presentation of the gospel sound; all are sinful and fall short, all are in need of a savior, God gave his son Jesus Christ, that he predestined to live a perfect live and be a perfect sacrifice for all sin. Any who accept Christ by faith (shattered and amazed in your heart by God's grace) are new creations in Christ Jesus are saved. To the extent she uses claims of direct revelation for small things is troubling but it shouldn't be used to discredit the work she is doing in bringing people to Christ. A Mr. Osteen she is not.
On the critical stuff we must have conformity; Jesus Christ is the son of the living God, the Trinity and Grace for example Other things should be discerned for the sake of the unity of believers.
As I recall she has based her unbiblical ecumenical ideas either on dreams or direct revelation from God (hardly a novel approach in our day), but I’m not spending the time to dig out any specifics.
Ten or eleven years ago I was concerned over what she was teaching my wife and the women in our former church, so I spent many hours listening to her, reading her, and generally studying her ministry. Her pervasive influence played a part in us finding a new church home soon thereafter. Other than the occasional article I read, I’m unwilling to dedicate any more time to her. I know what I need to know for my family, my teenage daughters, and the group of men with whom I have some spiritual influence.
Bottom line for me: she isn’t all bad, but I strongly disagree with some of her theology, disagree with some of her methods, and believe she is careless with the Word of God. As is so often the case, all I can do is sound the alarm. If you disagree with me and don’t mind her teaching your wife, proceed accordingly.
Fighting for the Faith - Chris Rosebrough - Beth Moore Non-Exegetical Eisegesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVdT02UpYCA
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