A Prophet for an Un-discerning Church [Beth Moore]

Mortification of Spin ^ | January 12, 2015 | Todd Pruitt

[RnMomof7]

LOL..Just saw that my former PCA is doing one of teachings again.. discernment is so lacking there,,,they just want to keep the “little ladies” happy ..and the do like her :)

[Lakeshark]

My wife has done many of Beth moore's studies, she just read this article and says it's really not giving a fair presentation of her in any way. She's telling me the article is wrong, not giving an accurate idea of what Beth Moore does at all. She is teaching how to apply scripture to women and that's what she's doing, and she does it fairly well. She NEVER claims she is giving a new revelation, if you hear the video, it's clear she's NOT doing that.

The problem with the article is that it shows NOTHING of any substance that she is in contradiction to scripture. Nothing.

The examples cited are silly, nothing but nit picking for no good reason. It appears the author is suggesting there is no Holy Spirit. Is he suggesting that the Holy Spirit does not indwell a believer, come along side them, or lead them to truth? If so, he may want to reread the Gospel of John.

If he is, and it sure appears he is saying that, then it's he who is misleading the church.

[Gamecock]

Mom, care to comment?

[Lakeshark]

Did you write the article?

[Gamecock]

No. Why?

[Lakeshark]

Just wondered, it seemed there was something personal there.

I do trust what my wife is saying, it appears the author is simply wrong and misleading, and you ought to consider that.

You could nit pick any great Christian leader in the same way, from Augustine, to Luther, to Calvin, to John MacArther, to anyone who is a teacher in any church.

It's not helpful. When you find something she is saying that contradicts scripture, then you've got something. So far, it appears to be just nit picking with no substance.

[RnMomof7]

She has no pastor check her “teaching”, so she teaches heresy without anyone to stop her. I sat through one where she gave a description of the Trinity that was pure Modalism, when I pointed it out to the leader..shoulders wee shrugged...like “so what “?? ...

Many women have no interest in Theology, many do not know how to read scripture in context or how to have scripture interpret scripture..so her teaching is fine fodder for other women that do not know the true from the false

She teaches self help as if it is scripture. Scripture can not be properly read if it is read for “what does it say to me” ..It says one thing..exactly what God means it to say . Unfortunately Beth does not know what it says,so she teaches what SHE thinks it says .

Women like the optics of her tapes ..and her sweet feminine presentation.

Take time to listen to this

http://www.extremetheology.com/2010/03/beth-moores-dangerous-bible-twisting.html

[Lakeshark]

Kindly link to what you heard that was Modalism, at this point I'll just say I'm skeptical.

Start pointing to something concrete please, give us quotes that are wrong, quotes that are genuinely against what scripture says. What I read and linked to in the article is silly, and would convict anyone who has been the best of teachers in the church.

[gov_bean_ counter]

It says one thing..exactly what God means it to say

And whose teaching or interpretation (pick a denomination or person) of same do you propose most accurately reflects God's meaning.

[Gamecock]

If Mom said she heard Moore teetering on Modalism, I believe her. As far as I am concerned she has impeccable credentials.

Since your wife has Moore material, and you want to defend Moore, why don’t you find us an orthodox Trinitarian statement?

[RnMomof7]

I heard this many years ago at the church I attended then .. can not remember the name of the tape.. She comment that she is wife , mother and teacher and that is like the trinity.

It hit me because I had used a similar analogy once.. only to find out that was modalism and a heresy Pastors should listen to every take before they use it as a teaching tool

[RnMomof7]

And whose teaching or interpretation (pick a denomination or person) of same do you propose most accurately reflects God's meaning.

No one has the whole truth.. BUT if someone stands up and presents herself as a teacher, she should do it under HER pastor and have him check the FUNDAMENTAL doctrine to make sure it is correct (yes there are some truths that all Christians agree on)

She teaches that she has "special revelation from God..that she was "lifted up"...none of this comports with Southern Baptist teachings ..it is in fact gnosticism ,,(having secret knowlege)

[Gamecock]

That is clearly modalism.

[avenir]

I don’t know anything about this lady but just reading the bit about visiting the cancer patient and then running off to frolic with God in the city zoo with a Starbucks in hand was priceless.

I know cancer must be tough, but this lady needs a Sabbath moment, people!

I am thankful to be a nobody, cause I shudder to think of every stupid thing I say being recorded for posterity (hey, FR doesn’t count!).

[kjam22]

The examples cited are silly, nothing but nit picking for no good reason. It appears the author is suggesting there is no Holy Spirit. Is he suggesting that the Holy Spirit does not indwell a believer, come along side them, or lead them to truth? If so, he may want to reread the Gospel of John.

Yep

[SusanS]

I've spent the past two years carefully examining Moore's teaching after going through one of her studies and finding it highly questionable from the start. I too have discovered Modalism in her teaching. I haven't seen anyone else point this out anywhere. Today I did a google search, “Is Beth Moore trinitarian?” and I've been going through everything that popped up. Nothing...until I scanned through all the comments here and found your comment.

Please do tell me where you found Moore's description of the trinity that “was pure modalism”.

Thanks!

[redleghunter]

Christ seemed to say, "Let's go play." And that we did. I hadn't been to the zoo in years. I heard about all the improvements, but I never expected the ultimate: Starbucks coffee! (OK, so I don't have all my health issues down pat.) Can you imagine watching a baby koala take a nap in a tree on a rare cold day in Houston with a Starbucks grande cappuccino in your hand? Now that's a Sabbath moment! God and I had a blast. - Beth Moore, The Beloved Disciple, (B&H Publishing: 2003), 220.

You just can't make this stuff up .

[redleghunter]

Sounds like pastors and elders need to sit in on these ladies Bible studies.

If some think “well are the women elders reporting back” then they already have a problem.

Some of these churches are so large they have dozens of break out groups. One guy I work with told me he left a church because it was too large. He said that some of the break out groups were teaching error and the pastor did not know what was going on. So now que in your anigif of the bottomless pit.

[redleghunter]

Most of these modern devotionals are like candy. You are Better off with using Spurgeon for a daily devotional IMO.

[redleghunter]

but I’m not ready to deny that the Holy Spirit was given to us to teach, direct, and grow us as Christians. In guidance that applies often to just us.

I hear you and many pastors like John Piper agree. However, one must question if going to Starbucks for an $8.00 caramel machiatto fits your description.