Skip to comments.Peeved Parishioners Leaving SF Catholic Church Over Ban On Girls As Altar Servers
Posted on 01/24/2015 12:45:37 PM PST by marshmallow
SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) A Bay Area church is now under fire over a controversial new policy saying only boys can be altar servers.
The new practice is making waves at the century old church Star of the Sea. Since the 70s, theyve used altar girls during masses.
The well-known Richmond District church also has a school serving about 230 kids. When the new priest banned girls from being altar servers, it generated outrage among parents and parishioners alike. The priest admits some parishioners even left the church.
Its disturbing, said churchgoer Connie Porciuncula.
Star of the Sea School parent Tara Widmer agrees. Theyre definitely taking a step in the wrong direction, she said.
Father Joseph Illo took over five months ago and decided to train only boys to be altar servers. He said he has no choice but to exclude girls because the future of the church is at stake.
The specifics of serving at the altar is a priestly function, Illo said. And the Catholic church does not ordain women.
But many parishioners and parents criticize the new practice saying it sends the wrong message.
It just kind of makes me feel that Im not good enough because Im a girl, said a 7th grader at the school who wishes to stay anonymous.
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Dang it. I was an altar boy for three years and I never got ordained. I'm suing.
Then why vest them with cossack and surplice or alb if they are not an acolyte/understudy..
Remember when it was “controversial” for girls to serve at the altar?
I wish they wouldn’t have the right to vote either.
Whoa there. Really?
well, that’ll wake people up .....
Yeah, we've all been suffraging ever since...
Hey, if they want to go to the Anglican Church a/k/a the church of lesbianism and pederasty, that is their decision.
It's past time people woke up to this fact. I just hope it's not too late.
As I expected, the article only quotes those who disagree with the pastor.
If this parish has been using female servers since the 70s then they were in violation of Canon law for 20-odd years as this INDULT allowing female servers was only granted in 1994.
The pastor is doing the right thing. God bless him and give us many more like him.
Given their support for liberals, I sometimes feel that way.
Why doesn’t he tell the little girls that boys need to do the clean-up and set-up at mass so they learn to be humble servants of God,and not big-headed pimps and thugs?
Girls are absolutely “good enough” to draw near to Jesus. They just might not need the lesson that the altar boy job is teaching.
“’It just kind of makes me feel that Im not good enough because Im a girl,’ said a 7th grader at the school who wishes to stay anonymous.”
And as soon as you learn that it’s not about you, but about effacing yourself before God, it will make sense. Make it about God, and it will not be important if you are allowed to be an altar server in your parish.
I know a priest who was sent there. Since priests don’t pick their assignments, it’s not fair to say that they are there because they chose to be. My friend found the place spiritually barren. People would show up at funerals without the faintest idea how to act, or what it was supposed to be about. He found it really weird, and not for any of the typical SF-joke reasons.
Tongue barely in cheek with that comment. ;)
“Jesus is Lord” is the oldest Christian creed. He leads and the Church should follow because He is Lord. Many believers in Jesus were women, but He chose none of them to be among the Twelve Apostles. That is the way God wanted it, and we accept His will as perfect.
God made women to help Him bring about physical life, while He appointed men to help Him bring about spiritual life. Are we in our arrogance going to criticize God’s perfect will?
Only if your parents are teaching you such a thing. It certainly isn't from the Church.
Wow! That language in a Religion thread? Are you sure you belong here?
What a moniker!
Luke 8:2-3 shows us that many women followed Jesus and his apostles to help support them. Based on Holy Bible passages, I dont support women priests. But altar girls arguably reflect the women who supported Jesus and his apostles imo.
Me too. altar boy vet here. I think it’s a good thing actually. The priests nowadays are a bunch of faggots anyways which prevents them from molesting and raping the opposite sex.
Well everyone's gotta admit, it's been downhill ever since then.........
“Remember when it was controversial for girls to serve at the altar?”
Understandable. Girls have cooties.
“but He chose none of them to be among the Twelve Apostles.”
He wanted to do it but Paul wouldn’t let him #liberaltheology
I rather doubt that. The San Francisco Diocese has no monopoly on the transgressions of the priesthood. That behavior was wide spread until the lawsuits started. The Diocese is acutely aware of the damage a few bad actors can cause.
The SF Diocese has paid $68 million in settlements over the course of the scandals. They even fired all teenage rectory workers. Nominally it was presented as a safety measure as in the workers worked alone at desks and in areas that were open to street traffic presenting the possibility that crazy street people can wander in. The other side of that action helped to remove any temptations that may come up.
Well that’s fine, let em go,they should go ahead and join a flavor of religion that meets with their morals and desires and strictures. If they don’t like the tenants and strictures of the Catholic church they can be Protestants, or Seventh Day Adventists, Baptists,Lutherans or whatever, but join a church you agree with don’t expect or demand the church to change for you.
I remember when my church allowed girls, I went into raptures.
I’ve never agreed with having girls as alter servers.
There are Protestant Churches that are more strict than the Catholic Church , there are some that are moderate and there are liberal ones too that allow women to be ordained.
Southern Baptist men as Ministers (Preacher) and women can be counselors, lay ministers.
ELCA (Liberal Lutheran)- Ordained women, some are allowing lesbians
LCMS (moderate Lutheran) women as lay ministers, counselors and teachers, Men generally ministers but some are wanting women to be ordained.
WELS (ultraconservative Lutheran) men as ministers women can be teachers and counselors only no such issue as lay minister
Methodist (moderate to Liberal) women are ministers
PCUSA (liberal Presbyterian) women as ministers
PCA (moderate to Conservative Presbyterian) Men as ministers women as counselors, teachers and lay ministers
I wonder how many of those are "pro-choice" Cafeteria-Catholics (aka Pelosi-Catholics).
Yes, I do.
Glad to see the bias-free moderating on this board continues apace.
Thank you for your disgusting reply. The priest in question has been known to me for many years, he is interested in saving souls not in sin.
The pastor is doing the right thing. God bless him and give us many more like him.
Apparently on the Religion board, it’s bad to use a “naughty” word, but ugly bigot-magnet smears are A-OK. It does make one question one’s financial contribution to this conservative, ostensibly Christian forum.
Thank you for appreciating the fair moderating we strive to use
The word you used that was in your removed post isn’t allowed anywhere on FR.
Opinions of many types are allowed on the Religion Forum
If you disagree with them debate it on the thread.
Hey all I’m sayin is if you don’t like the policies of a religion then you should go elsewhere, not expect the religion to change for you! America has already raised generations of morons who think, no, demand that the rules and laws be changed to want they want because they’re freakin “special”.
If women were not allowed to vote, IIRC, there would not have been a single Democrat President since 1920.
The rubber REALLY hits the road if Archbishop Cordileone backs up the priest.
It's important to recall the normative form of the mass calls for priest, deacon, and subdeacon at the altar. Every other form of the mass is an abbreviation.
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