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LDS Book of Mormon Violence [Mormon Jesus' cross accompanies mass destruction, death]
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Posted on 04/03/2015 6:39:24 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: PapaBear3625
I was just wondering if you would grace the Jewish threads with your presence as well.

Didn't I answer this?

61 posted on 04/06/2015 11:44:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I can't speak for the Church or anyone other than myself. We do use the Joseph Smith translation of Matthew as reference material when necessary. And it is considered scripture.

Oh?

I'd sure like to see the official DOCUMENTATION on this!

I've been telling LIES otherwise.

You surely do not want me to continue this; do you?

62 posted on 04/06/2015 11:45:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I'd sure like to see the official DOCUMENTATION on this!

Yeah. And while you are at it; can you show us just where SLC has denounced those words you are going to share with your Sunday School class??

63 posted on 04/06/2015 11:47:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Didn't I answer this?

You tell me. I've taken a look at your posting history. It seems like all you do on FR is bash Mormons, and to a lesser extent Catholics. You do hardly any commenting on other topics.

Do you think what you're doing advances Conservatism much? I don't. You think conservative Catholics (I'm one) like seeing your anti-Catholic diatribes? If somebody wanted to send a troll into FR to disrupt unity among conservatives, one technique would be to pretend to be a Christian Conservative and sow dissension.

64 posted on 04/06/2015 12:18:54 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
You do hardly any commenting on other topics.

So?

Is there a requirement by Jim to be well-rounded here?

65 posted on 04/06/2015 12:28:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625
Do you think what you're doing advances Conservatism much? I don't.

I really don't care what you think.

You go play politics all you want; I'm not stopping you.

I'm not complaining about the way you do it.

I'm not trying to argue you or others out of, or into, a particular political science view point.

WHY are you so obsessed with ME?

66 posted on 04/06/2015 12:31:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625
If somebody wanted to send a troll into FR to disrupt unity among conservatives, one technique would be to pretend to be a Christian Conservative and sow dissension.

If SLC wanted to send a troll into FR to help out the poor, beset upon Mormons, one technique would be to pretend to be a Christian and claim OBSESSION!!! with the burr under the saddle.

67 posted on 04/06/2015 12:34:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I'd sure like to see the official DOCUMENTATION on this!

I've been telling LIES otherwise.

You surely do not want me to continue this; do you?


No, we don't want you to telling anymore lies. So go look it up at the same place I told you to look the last time you brought the up.
68 posted on 04/06/2015 12:37:04 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: PapaBear3625; StormPrepper
You think conservative Catholics (I'm one) like seeing your anti-Catholic diatribes?

How about the anti-Mormonism ones?

You DO know what they think about you and your kind; right??


  "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"
 
 (The Seer, p. 255  Orson Pratt )



Storm prepper has been asked to show us where this attitude has been officially denounced.

Perhaps you two can have a Kum-by-ah moment afterwards.

69 posted on 04/06/2015 12:37:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
How about the anti-Mormonism ones? You DO know what they think about you and your kind; right??

Yep, I know. I also know what the Talmud has to say about Christians. But guess what? They don't post it HERE.

As long as the person supports liberty, lower taxes, and individual rights, and doesn't go out of his way to bash my religion, I have a "live and let live" attitude.

70 posted on 04/06/2015 2:38:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Elsie; PapaBear3625
You DO know what they think about you and your kind; right??

Notice the non-Catholic, non-Mormon trying to pit us against each other?

Just the kind of thing Lucifer would approve of.
71 posted on 04/06/2015 2:47:37 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper; Elsie

Else’s been doing her thing on FR since 1998. I’m going to assume JimRob knows and has no problem with it, so the best thing is to ignore her.


72 posted on 04/06/2015 3:28:09 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

FYI, Elsie’s a man who goes by the name L.C..


73 posted on 04/06/2015 5:06:19 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: StormPrepper

Are you implying that Elsie is posting in drag?


74 posted on 04/06/2015 5:30:02 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: StormPrepper
So go look it up at the same place I told you to look the last time you brought the up.

Oh what I could do with THIS line!!

LOL!!!



(No, Lurkers; he did NOT say where to find it last time.)



 
 
 
Some Church of Latter-day Saints members have had enough and have taken action against Sen. Harry Reid,
who they believe has been acting less and less in line with the LDS belief system that he claims.
 

Ain't it amazing, now that ol' Dingy is NOT gonna be in a position of POWER, how the hoipolloi will turn and rend him?
 
  

http://conservativetribune.com/mormons-bad-news-harry-reid/

75 posted on 04/07/2015 6:08:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625
As long as the person supports liberty, lower taxes, and individual rights, and doesn't go out of his way to bash my religion, I have a "live and let live" attitude.


HMMMmmm...

Sure wouldn't want any of THAT going on!!

We were in your neighborhood, and wondered...




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76 posted on 04/07/2015 6:15:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625
As long as the person supports liberty, lower taxes, and individual rights, and doesn't go out of his way to bash my religion, I have a "live and let live" attitude.

I'll have to assume (I know) that you consider Mormonism to be as valid as your religion.

77 posted on 04/07/2015 6:17:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
<>Notice the non-Catholic, non-Mormon trying to pit us against each other?

Just the kind of thing Lucifer would approve of.

I see SP is still avoiding the elephant in the room.

Such a shame; as he seems to be quite zealous for his chosen religion.

78 posted on 04/07/2015 6:19:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: PapaBear3625
Are you implying that Elsie is posting in drag?

It's an udder possibility!


79 posted on 04/07/2015 6:23:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I'll have to assume (I know) that you consider Mormonism to be as valid as your religion.

False assumption. I just consider it boorish to go out of your way to attack other people's religions, except when excessive numbers of that religion's clerics actively and currently promote violence against members of other religions (eg, Islam).

I don't consider Buddhism or Hinduism to be valid, but I will not be so rude as to actively denigrate their believers.

"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh" -- Robert Heinlein

80 posted on 04/07/2015 6:51:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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