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Colorado Supreme Court nixes Douglas county vouchers (vanity)
Self ^ | 29 June 2015 | Taxcontrol

Posted on 06/29/2015 9:15:21 AM PDT by taxcontrol

I just read from 9News.com that the Colorado Supreme Court has just ruled against the voucher program in Douglas County School district. While I am disapointed in this ruling, it is technically correct. The Colorado Constitution states in Article IX, section 7:

Aid to private schools, churches, sectarian purpose, forbidden. Neither the general assembly, nor any county, city, town, township, school district or other public corporation, shall ever make any appropriation, or pay from any public fund or moneys whatever, anything in aid of any church or sectarian society, or for any sectarian purpose, or to help support or sustain any school, academy, seminary, college, university or other literary or scientific institution, controlled by any church or sectarian denomination whatsoever; nor shall any grant or donation of land, money or other personal property, ever be made by the state, or any such public corporation to any church, or for any sectarian purpose.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: colorado; education; vouchers
That leaves 3 remedies: 1) kill the voucher program 2) modify the program to exclude religious schools 3) alter the constitution
1 posted on 06/29/2015 9:15:21 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

Was the voucher school proposed a religious one, or one that would only accept one race? Those would be considered sectarian, otherwise, it doesn’t apply to the law as I read it.


2 posted on 06/29/2015 9:20:24 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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I thought vouchers went to citizens, not institutions.

Defund the public schools by direct funding, and fund them instead by vouchers held by parents who take them to the schools of their choice. Public or private.


3 posted on 06/29/2015 9:33:31 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: taxcontrol

Heaven forbid that the state run school should have to compete with a private school.

That being said, I would not like my tax dollars going to support some madrassa.


4 posted on 06/29/2015 9:41:32 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: taxcontrol

If the vouchers were made payable to the taxpayer, then there is no conflict. Otherwise, those on state assistance or pensions, likewise, wouldn’t be able to make payments to their churches for meals or education on the same grounds.


5 posted on 06/29/2015 9:41:35 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: taxcontrol

I think the Colorado constitution is in error. Every religion is welcome to apply for vouchers, so it is fair.


6 posted on 06/29/2015 10:02:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: taxcontrol

P.S. I also do not support “public schools”. It leads to the government taking all the money and controlling such things as who can run a school and how they must run it.

Public schools need to be banned just like the liberals in the schools are trying to ban religion.


7 posted on 06/29/2015 10:03:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: mbarker12474

As I understand the program, vouchers were given to parents who would then turn them into the schools, who would in turn, cash them in at the State.


8 posted on 06/29/2015 10:06:49 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
As I understand the program, vouchers were given to parents who would then turn them into the schools, who would in turn, cash them in at the State.

I believe you're correct.

9 posted on 06/29/2015 10:56:45 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: mbarker12474

Sectarianism is a form of bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, nationalism, class, regional or factions of a political movement.
The ideological underpinnings of attitudes and behaviours labelled as sectarian are extraordinarily varied. Members of a religious, national or political group may believe that their own salvation, or the success of their particular objectives, requires aggressively seeking converts from other groups; adherents of a given faction may believe that for the achievement of their own political or religious project their internal opponents must be converted or purged.
Sometimes a group that is under economic or political pressure will kill or attack members of another group which it regards as responsible for its own decline. It may also more rigidly define the definition of orthodox belief within its particular group or organization, and expel or excommunicate those who do not support this new found clarified definition of political or religious orthodoxy. In other cases, dissenters from this orthodoxy will secede from the orthodox organisation and proclaim themselves as practitioners of a reformed belief system, or holders of a perceived former orthodoxy. At other times, sectarianism may be the expression of a group’s nationalistic or cultural ambitions, or exploited by demagogues.
The phrase “sectarian conflict” usually refers to violent conflict along religious or political lines such as the conflicts between Nationalists and Unionists in Northern Ireland (religious and class-divisions may play major roles as well). It may also refer to general philosophical, political disparity between different schools of thought such as that between Shia and Sunni Muslims. Non-sectarians espouse that free association and tolerance of different beliefs are the cornerstone to successful peaceful human interaction. They espouse political and religious pluralism.

From the Illinois Constitution regarding Educational funding restrictions

Constitution of the State of Illinois

ARTICLE X

EDUCATION

SECTION 3. PUBLIC FUNDS FOR SECTARIAN PURPOSES FORBIDDEN
Neither the General Assembly nor any county, city, town, township, school district, or other public corporation, shall ever make any appropriation or pay from any public fund whatever, anything in aid of any church or sectarian purpose, or to help support or sustain any school, academy, seminary,college, university, or other literary or scientific institution, controlled by any church or sectarian denomination whatever; nor shall any grant or donation of land, money, or other personal property ever be made by the State, or any such public corporation, to any church, or for any sectarian purpose.
(Source: Illinois Constitution.)

So in my legal reading they left the barn door open for Alternative educational alternatives as long as they meet the test. So if you stay straight and narrow down a pure educational path then you should be able to be provided for by this

Maybe it is late and the coffee insufficient but I think it is right...

Please others if you can reply, there may be a similar gap in the fence LOL elsewhere...

Thanks


10 posted on 10/29/2015 9:08:18 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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