Now Gog and Mr. Magog are a different matter altogether.
Posted on 10/01/2015 3:09:35 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
BFL
Yes, I’ve heard “America isn’t in the Bible!” for years. It’s ridiculous.
But I have also heard that even Amos is referring to the Constitution (covenant of brotherhood) and our current Uniparty that is most likely run by the people George Washington was warned about on his deathbed, and what John Quincy Adams was freaked out about — illuminists invading the freemasons with the Fed Reserve, etc. (of Tyre or Tyrus) in Amos 1:9:
Thus saith the Lord;
For three transgressions of Tyrus,
and for four,
I will not turn away the punishment thereof;
because they delivered up the whole captivity to Edom,
and remembered not the brotherly covenant:
Tyre
9 Thus says the Lord:
For three crimes of Tyre, and now four—
I will not take it back—
Because they handed over an entire population to Edom,
and did not remember their covenant of brotherhood
Spiritual blindness maybe?
Maybe? That’s a big part of it.
What tree is that?
I’m not specifically pushing this article I posted or the book this guy is hawking (haven’t read it, have no intention of reading it)... but what this article is based on is common sense Bible research. Iraq is not Mystery Babylon, America is.
... until you can take down these 60 arguments point by point, I’m not that interested.
So, what tree are you talking about?
We’re not a player in prophecy because we’ve been neutralized by our own leadership.
You are so right. These same people who proclaimed to the world how much smarter they are, because they voted for Obama, now look like deer in the headlights when you mention any one of Obama's failures, especially the middle east and ISIS.
They are incapable of seeing the truth, can’t admit they made a terrible mistake and are in total denial. And that’s just for starters.
If their actions only affected them, it would be fine. But they sure hurt the rest of us.
Have you heard anyone admit they made a mistake and he is so bad? I only heard it once. She said “Obama fooled us”.
Now Gog and Mr. Magog are a different matter altogether.
That's exactly it. Things would change quick if they actually faced the repercussions of their actions.
Indeed:
Gen 49
22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
And
Deut 33
13 And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the LORD be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath,
14 And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,
15 And for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills,
16 And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
The Northern tribes (House of Joseph/Israel) were exiled and lost to history due to gross idolatry. Separated, so to speak. Hosea (and Ezekiel 37) decribe their return.
(Revelation 17:5) And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Babylon is the harlot's *mother's* name. A naming convention for illegitimate children. Compare:
Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
The name "America" is itself a mystery... undetermined origin, lacking definitive etymology or source. Theories abound. And then there's her Hebrew name:
Hebrew name for US "Lands of the Covenant" remains mystery
Joseph is yet alive.
Speaking of Joseph and Joseph/Israel allegories...
The quotes above from Deu 33 and Gen 49 are referenced at the end of Matthew chapter 2. He = Joseph. Another one of those perpetually "mysterious" verses that actually makes plain sense. Nazarene = nazir = separated one = Joseph = House of Israel
Hosea 11:1-3
1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
2 As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
3 I taught Ephraim also to go, taking them by their arms; but they knew not that I healed them.
Matthew 2:14 When he [Joseph] arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:
Matthew 2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled [completed] which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Egypt - house of bondage
Babylon - confusion, mixture
The USA not a player in prophecy? She's front and center, right along with Judah.
Think about this. We will be spending the next year preparing for an election, fighting this illegal and forced invasion by illegals from all over the world, and our military is so weak, Obama would not dare call it up as it would make him even weaker. Basically, we are frozen and our hands ties for at least 18 months and guess who knows this. His name is Putin. Attacks on Israel will not be answered by us because of weakness and Obama’s indifference. Won’t it be amazing how Israel will wipe out her enemies though.
I happened to see a TV, quite by accident, or perhaps not, where Zola was making his case for the timing of prophetic events and the restoration of Israel. This was in the early 1990’s.
I also think that the United States is found in the 18th chapter of Isaiah. It speaks of a land far away that’s divided by many rivers, the people speak a strange speech, a land feared, a nation of whirring wings...very interesting chapter.
ragmop
I’m not talking about it. Scripture names it as one of the delicacies imported from Mystery Babylon. It is a type of tree product (incense) that DOES NOT GROW ANYWHERE BUT THE MIDDLE EAST! - (I might look it up & give chapter and verse; but my Bible is in another room.
IF you’ve decided America IS what you’ve decided it is; no amount of ARGUMENT will change your mind. I’ve got no time for “doubtful disputations”. Time is short.
You do know that, for example, Los Angeles is about the exact same latitude as Israel with the exact same desert-to-oasis climate? Why couldn’t something that grows in the Middle East be grown somewhere in the US?
I’m open to anyone who can present arguments refuting the sixty arguments here that the US is Mystery Babylon.
What is the incense? I’m truly interested to know what someone you heard preach or teach about it.
But I’m with John Quincy Adams on this — he was a Christian (and the smartest US President ever) — who saw the same things the Bible saw — how the US could become the most evil nation in the history of the world.
Read the scripture again:
Rev. 18:11 “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.
Note the goods listed are sold TO Mystery Babylon, not FROM her.
Then ask yourself who is the world's largest consumer of goods?
Just one of many more characteristics the US has in common with "Mystery Babylon" recorded in both the OT, and NT.
Insightful and timely. I wonder if Russian support and armaments will encourage an Arab Psalm 83 attack on Israel? If so, this may be the hook that pulls the Bear into Israel (Ezekiel 38)
America is completely and utterly bankrupt and will pay the Piper soon. Babylon is...Babylon. Most likely an oil funded Dubai-like entity that rises in Iraq (or Shinar as Zech 5 puts it)
Scary how much Revelation sounds like the city where John D Rockefeller Jr donated the land for the United Nations to be built, the same city where the freemason occultic Prostitute Who Sits On Many Waters with her seven pointed star headdress: http://www.iron-clay.com/mystery-babylon.html (That link contains another 99 reasons why America is Mystery Babylon)
15Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
16The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled.
18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
Come out of Babylon!
Rev. 18:1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
2 With a mighty voice he shouted:
"Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit, a haunt for every unclean and detestable bird.
3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."
4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
"Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes.
6 Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. Mix her a double portion from her own cup.
7 Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
In her heart she boasts, `I sit as queen; I am not a widow, and I will never mourn.'
8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
9 "When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her.
10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:
"`Woe! Woe, O great city, O Babylon, city of power! In one hour your doom has come!'
The Kings of The Earth and Their Merchants Are Distraught Over Babylon's Destruction
11"The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more--
12cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble;
13cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and bodies and souls of men.
14"They will say, `The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your riches and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.' 15The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16and cry out:
"`Woe! Woe, O great city, dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet, and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!'
"Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off. 18When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, `Was there ever a city like this great city?' 19They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:
"`Woe! Woe, O great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth!
In One Hour She Has Been Brought To Ruin!
20 Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.'"
21 Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said:
"With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again.
22 The music of harpists and musicians, flute players and trumpeters, will never be heard in you again.
No workman of any trade will ever be found in you again.
The sound of a millstone will never be heard in you again.
The light of a lamp will never shine in you again.
The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again.
Your merchants were the world's great men.
By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.
In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth."
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